Testers needed!

[FirmWare]

Ill try it on Vista Homw Premium and XP (dual booting )

[Fantasya]

Originally Posted by @ruantec-Man

there´s no GUPI version... sorry "GUPI" is another word for "Beta" used by sigmax and me

oh well, then I wait. Guess I will clean the apartment in a month or two.

[tek0]

XP Pro x32 and x64, I can test on. I would like to test it out please.

[Cheesus]

A new feature in the upcoming build... Color changing. It hasnt been fully implemented yet, @ruantec-man just sent me an edited version of the current beta build in order to show me (and you), what aes is capable of.

Here are a few pics


This is the original one





The colours arent fixed, so im guessing there'll be quiet a variety of schemes. Also, in later versions both bars will have changeable colors, these are merely to give you an idea of what it will be like.

AES also has a knob to change the volume (which is really cool btw), and an awesome new backround

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[TheCloudOfSmoke]

Heh, that's awesome Cheesus. Nice pics.

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If I support the game company, then I won't won't be supporting the blank DVD business.

Decisions, decisions.

[MasterPhW]

Yeah, MasterPhW here, beta Tester of the nice prog for nearly two years!
I've tried some more things, most beta testers not tried, like opening pictures with it... as you can see aes can also render pictures without any problems, if, yeah if you have the needed codecs installed, because as most of you know aes uses the installed codecs atm to render all the stuff...
To pics for you, the first is aes rendering a wallpaper (no I didn't changed the skin, you can see it, because the volume knob is gone)

And the second screen, renders vanessa ann hudgens...

The only problem it has atm is, that it fit all pictures to the aes screen, so some picture seem to be fatter than they should.
The next important thing for anime nerds (like me) is, that it also can display subtitles and the render does support japanese signs...
Really great I have to admit!

More to come!

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[@ruantec]

OMG a very old member is back!!! and not only a old member here but the oldest A.E.S betatester!!!

is just great to see you back again..... man i really missed you
am really surpriced with your tests because am coding a.e.s and you found things that even i didn´t knew about... i fact i don´t equiped a.e.s to do that... except the codecs usage if it can´t decode a file itself.

Amazing!

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[MasterPhW]

Some new results:
I tested 9 different image formats (jpg, png, pcx, tga, tif, psd, bmp, pgm and ppm) with "open with->AES" and the jpeg/jpg ones and the bmps are loading and displayed in AES, the others didn't work, they just throw me back to the main screen.
Then I did some crash tests, but AES worked flawless here:
I watched a video and cut the connection to the video (I unplugged an external hdd) and aes still shows the last picture and its frameskip options jumps to the end... not bad, I thought I could probably crash aes with it... :P
After replugging I could watch the movie from the same position!
The another great thing I found out while testing DVD support: first the bad thing: it doesn't support DVD-Menus atm... but he's working on it.
Now the good thing: If you mount a DVD and play a *.vob file from iti and unmount these dvd AES keeps it in the memory and let you watch it again and again...
More stuff soon...
Btw: what happened to my postcount, it's gone to zero? Mmh, confusing!

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[FirmWare]

So how does one go about beta testing?

[@ruantec]

Originally Posted by FirmWare

Ill try it on Vista Homw Premium and XP (dual booting )

Originally Posted by Norbi

I must say this look very promising. I would like to help as well if it ok. And on a side note, do all normal emu commands work? like ctrl+f1 for saving in snes9x?

Originally Posted by tek0

XP Pro x32 and x64, I can test on. I would like to test it out please.

Originally Posted by FirmWare

So how does one go about beta testing?

i didn´t forget any of you... i was just too busy to reply.

Beta versions are only available from me at the moment... sadly i have to many beta-testers so betas will be available to current beta-testers only...

sorry i really appreciate your intention to help me out with some testing... but i won´t make my beta-testers list bigger.


i appreciate your attention and ideas for my project.. beta-testers and sometimes me we will continue posting here to show you how things are going in order to keep you up-to-date..... but now comes you still can contribute to the project by posting your ideas or doubts about it...


anyways the first public release isn´t far away looking at the current A.E.S stage so just wait a bit more and you will be able to get a very stable release instead of a buggy beta!


UPDATE:

so progress has been done again... as i sayd i already got the emu/game rendering feature and now am going for one of the final things before the release.. and that´s playlist of games music and menus!!

have a look at the reflection feature in a.e.s in the picture which gives you a preview of how things will looks at a later time just used one game to create the preview though.

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[FirmWare]

Hmm, how about a feature similar to how Windows Media Player and other programs automatically grab music and other media info, AES could grab ROM, and other media info?

[@ruantec]

info??? mmmm am adding ID3/WMA info and probably info for video but i wasn´t thinking on rom info.... mmmm let´s see what i can do.

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[dristra]

I'm really very impressed w/ the capturing and displaying of the emulator inside of your apps client area. I'm writing a tool for my own use that could really benefit from that technique. Would you be willing to point me in the right direction as to how to do that specific task of capturing another apps video and hiding that app. Are you using Windows hooks or something else to tell when the emu has repainted itself? Are your getting the window's DC and grabbing the image that way or something more low level?

I'd really appreciate any help from your obvious expertise in this area.
Thanks much for any help you can give me and for your efforts on AES. Looks awesome!

[mudlord]

re you using Windows hooks or something else to tell when the emu has repainted itself? Are your getting the window's DC and grabbing the image that way or something more low level?

More like using something like Detours, which hooks calls and forces them to relocate to other functions. Sorta like how ryg's scene demo movie recorder works. It uses Detours to reroute screen and audio output to a file, instead of capturing in realtime, like FRAPS does.

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[dristra]

You may be right. Maybe that is the beginnings of how @ruantec-man is accomplishing this. Wow, I've never heard of Detours before. I never knew memory modifications like this were allowed by the OS. Thank you very much for the links. I guess I have some serious studying to do to try and figure out how they work

Thank you very much for sharing your time and expertise mudlord.

[@ruantec]

Originally Posted by dristra

You may be right. Maybe that is the beginnings of how @ruantec-man is accomplishing this. Wow, I've never heard of Detours before. I never knew memory modifications like this were allowed by the OS. Thank you very much for the links. I guess I have some serious studying to do to try and figure out how they work

Thank you very much for sharing your time and expertise mudlord.

am sorry to dissapoint you but A.E.S doesn´t use any of the mentioned methods to do the job...

other than FRAPS or Ryg´s recorder a.e.s doesn´t capture any screens or something like that.. a.e.s detects the rendering process and change it at realtime to point to my application instead. is quite different and also not easy to understand as am the one that develop this hole new way..

a.e.s doesn´t even need more cpu horse power to do that which is a prove to you that it doesn´t capture anything... in fact the emulator or application thinks a.e.s screen is the place to render the stuff.

this method is not a simple thing in windows or just another windows api call you didn´t knew about or something like that... this method is the result of over a year of development(sadly slow since i didn´t had enough time to code everyday) the most dificult part of all this is manage the data flow to be displayed correctly.. believe me is not an easy task.

you haven´t tested a.e.s yet but when it gets released you will realice the hole a.e.s program works different.. in fact controls moving,sliders,scrollers,playlist and all that stuff is an animation created by the a.e.s engine. if you worked with photoshop before you will know for shure the use of layers.. most pictures and projects in photoshop use this method to create ONE picture which is the result of many layers.. a.e.s is created using a similar method.

every layer has a function in a.e.s and so i have the total control of each layer. there are actually 4 layers in a.e.s.

Skin layer: Display the skin stuff..
Main layer: Displays menu´s,playlist and other stuff
Video layer: Displays/render Video/Emulator data using the a.e.s engine.

and finally the layer that isn´t activated yet... and probably the best one(for me).

the Animation layer: this layer is able to clone itself and create animations(with my .@ni format) or parts for your skin... each layer/animation/skin part will own functions and methods.. this is the layer that will pimp a.e.s skins in the future or probably your desktop aswell

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[Nightmare]

Man, i just want to say that you are damn good in programming and i am also very impressed with A.E.S. I will surely enjoy using it when it is released. Frankly, i can't wait!

[dristra]

Originally Posted by @ruantec-Man

am sorry to dissapoint you but A.E.S doesn´t use any of the mentioned methods to do the job...

this method is not a simple thing in windows or just another windows api call you didn´t knew about or something like that... this method is the result of over a year of development(sadly slow since i didn´t had enough time to code everyday) the most dificult part of all this is manage the data flow to be displayed correctly.. believe me is not an easy task.

Well having spent the day looking at detours I can tell you they are not a Winodws API call either but source code that modifies the 1st 5 bytes or so of a function in memory to cause it to jump to a function of your choice instead and allows trampalining back and forth. It's pretty cool stuff. You may want to check it out if you haven't yet. It might help you in some future scenario.

I'm interested in what you are calling your video layer. Basically, I'd like to redirect the video from another app to my own. I'm not a genius, but I'd really like to learn more about this and am willing to do the work to figure it out eventually if you'd be willing to help me out and share some of your experience in doing this technique so well.


Thanks again for your work.

[@ruantec]

Originally Posted by dristra

Well having spent the day looking at detours I can tell you they are not a Winodws API call either but source code that modifies the 1st 5 bytes or so of a function in memory to cause it to jump to a function of your choice instead and allows trampalining back and forth. It's pretty cool stuff. You may want to check it out if you haven't yet. It might help you in some future scenario.

I'm interested in what you are calling your video layer. Basically, I'd like to redirect the video from another app to my own. I'm not a genius, but I'd really like to learn more about this and am willing to do the work to figure it out eventually if you'd be willing to help me out and share some of your experience in doing this technique so well.


Thanks again for your work.

i know it´s not just a simple api(i was talking about my method which is not a simple api call) but i think we use different methods to do the trick.

about my video layer..... i´ll explain you... what you probably know is the boring windows 9X/XP window style(see picture 1&2) a.e.s is created in another way... as i explain before in layers(see picture 3) each layer has different functionality and features and that´s one of the main difference between a.e.s and a normal/standard windows app.

about sharing my method with you........ well don´t get me wrong but am not ready with a.e.s yet to share the code now(taking in mind a.e.s isn´t a open-source project) .

i could probably show you how to use it at a later time but at the moment am too busy with a.e.s to teach you or anyone else.... believe me if there is somebody here that loves to teach others that´s me.. but at the moment i don´t have enough time to do that.

anyways here are more screens for you to show you the abilities of my method.

even Crysis plays well under a.e.s!

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[MT]

skiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiins... i like the aes render method

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