Javascript popup window

[wolfmaster]

Ok i need help i gto a chat room and i need to know how u make it a popup

here the link

http://www.annetwork.com/gil/2.8/chat.htm

i want it so you click chat then a windows popups with that file can any one help me here

[Utils]

target="_chatwindow"

tada!

[wolfmaster]

thanks

[scottlc]

If you do it with Javascript, you can customise the popup. Also, are you not banned?

[dn]

He is now. Trying to use ridulous methods to evade IRC bans.

[Utils]

Why does everyone worship Javascript? Oh wow, you changed the window size for a couple bytes more of code. Is this 1995 again?

[scottlc]

Like it or not, the only way to create a custom popup. And what is wrong with JavaScript? There's really no need to behave like that. Nobody is forcing you to use JavaScript.

[Galway no Sora]

Utils, you have JS that much, so you flamming everybody that use it? Man, you're insane.

[scottlc]

I have seen him troll on several occasion. This kind of behaviour is not tollerated on NGemu.

[Utils]

How am I trolling? Name the occasions. I was asking a question that you both failed to answer. I don'ttroll, I offer constructive criticisms, know the difference. The MAIN reason why I do so is because I see alot of these posters making the same design mistakes that I did when I was starting out. So to save them the time and effort, I wanted to offer my advice. Isn't this the point of a messageboard? Now you want to silence me for trying to help someone or asking a question about your design choices?

Here is my lament:lazy programming. Or even worse, people that incorporate every markup tag into their pages. I used to be like this. It took me a while to learn that simplicity is the key. Users don't want to have to sit and wait,on their modem, for all your graphic rollovers and scrolling status bar text and popup alert windows and background music and crap. At least I wouldn't. What your surfers want is content they can easily access. And you don't have to sacrifce style for that. But a lot of you feel peer pressured by your peers to do that.

I used to be that way, this is no lobger the case. And for wanting to impart my wisdom, I'm called a troll. Well thank you for that. I suppose all educators are trolls by that definition.

[scottlc]

Laziness is one of the great virtues of a programmer. There is nothing wrong with using JavaScript. You really seem to be oversimplifying.

Don't you realise that Emuforums relies on JavaScript. HTML will only take you so far.

Here is an example:
http://www.ngemu.com/forums/showpost...0&postcount=23

[Utils]

I don't know where you got the impression that I hate Javascript. I was saying that programmers are lazy and instead of innovating, the go to javagoodies and download recipies without trying to be different. In this business you have to set yourself apart from the competition. My older site was very simple and has a fantastic layout and loaded fast. The biggest a page ever got was 3K and I wasn't even using PHP at the time. Judging from the feedback, I was running one of the best Emulation sites at the time. Now everyon has gotten their head out of their ass and realizes you can be stylish and report news. Now only if they realized not everyone has DSL.

For the record I myself have DSL, but that doesn't give me a license to build a slow loading webpage. And the fact that I use one browser over another does not give me alicense to ignore the rest.

But I am only one man. Take or leave my advice. Your visitors will be the final judge, and mine have thanked me numerous times.

[Utils]

Before you accuse me of trolling or whatever, go here: http://www.digitalthread.com/

Notice the theme in all these webpages? Simplicity. Look at the competitions. Look at the rules. Why are you so afraid to learn? I didn't say I had all the answers, I'm always learning. You seem to be stuck in your ways.

[RamsusX]

Originally Posted by Utils

Why does everyone worship Javascript? Oh wow, you changed the window size for a couple bytes more of code. Is this 1995 again?

Using a 20 or 30 bytes of Javascript code to make a new window open without a toolbar, statusbar, menubar, etc. is more than reasonable. Your judgement is skewed.

Javascript code doesn't take up much file size to begin with, and is usually compressed (along with HTML and CSS) over dial-up connections. If the server uses mod_gzip and your browser is Mozilla, the server will compress text data using gzip (better than the compression used by dial-up modem standards and zip, and it performs well) resulting in even less bandwidth used. Besides, if you put Javascript in a separate file, it'll get cached by the browser meaning it's only downloaded once. This means you can use the same script on every page of your site with no bandwidth penalty. Javascript as used on most websites isn't very CPU-intensive to parse and execute. Overall, there's no reason to avoid Javascript where it would be useful. Real gains are made by optimizing or eliminating images, html attributes and style elements, and nested tables.

Also, laziness isn't a bad thing when it comes to programming. Code reuse is a great thing. Not everyone needs to be original. What you should be complaining about is people abusing technologies, such as Javascript, Flash, and Java, by just using whatever they think is cool in their layouts with no regard to aesthetics, usability, and utility.

I used to be that way, this is no lobger the case. And for wanting to impart my wisdom, I'm called a troll. Well thank you for that. I suppose all educators are trolls by that definition.

You're called a troll for being an ass. It's one thing to offer advice, and it's another to mock someone who doesn't have the same idea of what's right as you do. Your condescending, righteous tone mixed with a lack of tactfulness is what pisses people off.

[scottlc]

Originally Posted by Utils

You seem to be stuck in your ways.

What would you know about my ways? You have no idea. I think that you assume too much. I never called you a troll because you want to state your opinion. It is because your condescending, sarcastic tone was unacceptable. You have to realise that not everyone shares your opinion.

[Utils]

I know that not everyone shares my opinion. I don't expect people to share my radical opinions. What I don't expect is to be called a troll when I have listened to your point, and offer a suggestion. Did I call any of you names? No i did not. Yet you are all lashing out at me. All of a sudden attacking me personally. Calling me an ass for having an opinion is uncalled for.

Again, thank-you for jumping to conclusions.

I don't know where the condescending thing came from, maybe your feeling bad for yourselves. Ever think of that?

[scottlc]

From Dictionary.com:

To deal with people in a patronizingly superior manner.

Anyway, I think that an admin should close this topic as it has gone a little

[FLaRe85]

Originally Posted by scott_uk5

From Dictionary.com:


Anyway, I think that an admin should close this topic as it has gone a little

After reading this and a couple of other threads I would agree. It seems as if Utils is trying to promote his radical idea of "optomization" in almost every thread that has something to do with web design.

[Utils]

I am not promoting anything. I enjoy web design. Is this not a DISCUSSION FORUM? I find it funny that whenever somebody doesn't agree, someone in the majority will say, "Let's close this before someone else with an opposing view has their say."

This is something I am PASSIONATE about. This is why I was happy to see several discussions about web design. Unlike the rest of you, I'd like to hear what you have to say. I forgot his name but he taught me something about XHTML.

I'm starting to think the regulars of this board behave in the same manner of the fanboys on gamefaqs.com.

Am I to believe that these 3 page threads are just everyone agreeing with each other? Have I logged in to a forum of sheep? I hope not. Closing this thread would be a confirmation of my worst fears.

And shadow,... Never mind. I can't expect you to understand, what with you having the word in quotes and everything. Go read the post by that XML guy, maybe then you will know what optimizing is. He and I agree on a lot of things.

[RamsusX]

While I don't consider you a troll here in WCD (EDIT: Web development/Programming, WCD is an old PNMB acronym), I do have to emphasize again that your tone does come across a little offensive (or at least overly aggressive). People don't like to be patronized by someone they've never heard of before, even if that person is an expert.

However, this thread has gone a bit off-topic. The original intent of the thread was fulfilled many posts ago and it should have simply passed on. People are more open to a debate when it has its own thread, as long as it doesn't turn into a flame-fest.