cool....

e-ternity · July 29th, 2003

i never thought of advertising my site on here, lol
check it, its at...

http://00project.sytes.net

i'm still learning how to use macro flash mx and 3dsmax =P
basically flash, haven't touched 3dsmax for a while

**Razor Blade** · July 29th, 2003

It isnt really a place to advertise. But you can introduce your site to the members here.

e-ternity · July 29th, 2003

o0ooo... advertising it isn't then, lets say its more like
improving =)
i'll see what you guys say about my noob skills

N1ghtw0lf · July 29th, 2003

I like it

good work

Valcrist · July 29th, 2003

no offense to your site, but I for some odd reason don't like flash site....I guess I'm just wierd

Bonzo · July 29th, 2003

because flash just sucks it isnt a real coded website, its slow, you can admire the flash, but you cant admire the good code behind it wich is sad really, id use flash for movies and **** like that but not for a website, html and photoshop is the way a site should be designed or gimp or other image editing proggies, FLASH SUCKS MAJOR ASS FOR WEBSITES, flash is for the commercial users, aimed at mainly little kiddies like disney, some nintendo sites, and i could go on.. its just not coding <--- and we will leave it at that

**Chrono Archangel** · July 29th, 2003

Quote:

Originally Posted by Bonzo

because flash just sucks it isnt a real coded website, its slow, you can admire the flash, but you cant admire the good code behind it wich is sad really, id use flash for movies and **** like that but not for a website, html and photoshop is the way a site should be designed or gimp or other image editing proggies, FLASH SUCKS MAJOR ASS FOR WEBSITES, flash is for the commercial users, aimed at mainly little kiddies like disney, some nintendo sites, and i could go on.. its just not coding <--- and we will leave it at that

well im sorry but i totally disagree with you lol
sure coding is nice but Flash can be as hard and way more nicer
did you see the Infanium Labs website? i would like to be as good as the guy who did it.

as for reffering flash to kiddies and nintendo, that is just wrong....i think you have a serious problem..

aniway back on topic, iEvolutions your website is awesome

scottlc · July 29th, 2003

I don't like Square Enix Europe's use of flash, loads too slow.

Square Enix Europe:
http://www.square-enix-europe.com/

**Razor Blade** · July 29th, 2003

Hmm not a bad site. Too bright for me though. Blinds me ..

RamsusX · July 29th, 2003

Personally I dislike the use of Flash on websites. It's a proprietary technology, so users are dependent on Macromedia to port their Flash plugin to their browser/platform. It also reduces accessibility for those with disabilities such as blindness, as a site written in Flash can't be viewed or navigated by anyone using a User Agent that isn't visual and doesn't have a viable flash plug-in. Finally, the use of Flash usually reduces the overall usability of a site's layout by making it more difficult to find and use content on a site.

A layout's function should always first and foremost be to aid the user in using the site, not impressing the user with how it looks. So for sites with no content, using Flash in the layout is no problem. However, sites with actual worthwhile content should never use Flash in their layouts.

**Chrono Archangel** · July 29th, 2003

Quote:

Originally Posted by RamsusX

However, sites with actual worthwhile content should never use Flash in their layouts.

I like that point. A site with constant updates like a news site shouldnt be done in flash. but one that just shows a product or something similor that is updated once evry 1-2 months then flash is always welcomed in my case

RamsusX · July 29th, 2003

Quote:

Originally Posted by Chrono Archange

I like that point. A site with constant updates like a news site shouldnt be done in flash. but one that just shows a product or something similor that is updated once evry 1-2 months then flash is always welcomed in my case

How often the content is updated is irrelevant.

A site that has a large amount of content (especially textual information or downloadable content) shouldn't use flash, while a site that is just one big advertisement for a game (which most official game websites are) can be all Flash.

Likewise, an online catalog or a site with important in-depth information about a product shouldn't use Flash either.

However, sites with all Flash content can freely use all-flash layouts, for obvious reasons.

Regulus · July 29th, 2003

it looks ok. nothing special, but pretty good.

**Chrono Archangel** · July 29th, 2003

Quote:

Originally Posted by RamsusX

How often the content is updated is irrelevant.

A site that has a large amount of content (especially textual information or downloadable content) shouldn't use flash, while a site that is just one big advertisement for a game (which most official game websites are) can be all Flash.

Likewise, an online catalog or a site with important in-depth information about a product shouldn't use Flash either.

However, sites with all Flash content can freely use all-flash layouts, for obvious reasons.

see my point of view is different
i feel the content is irrelevent compared to the updating of a site.
for me i wouldnt mind to visit a flash website that has alot of content.
i go there get the info i want and that all.
but a website that is constantly beeing updated and that i know i will go back to check whats new shouldnt be in flash

well at least thats how i see it

Regulus · July 29th, 2003

Yea. Just look at flash sites. they dont get updated near as much as HTML or other sites.

RamsusX · July 30th, 2003

Quote:

Originally Posted by Chrono Archange

see my point of view is different
i feel the content is irrelevent compared to the updating of a site.
for me i wouldnt mind to visit a flash website that has alot of content.
i go there get the info i want and that all.
but a website that is constantly beeing updated and that i know i will go back to check whats new shouldnt be in flash

well at least thats how i see it

I visit sites to obtain information or download content. For example, I'll visit PHP.net or MySQL.com to obtain reference documentation when I need to check something, or GIMP.org if I want to download the latest sources. When I need to find documentation on something Linux related, I'll visit tldp.org. When I want to buy something, I'll visit a site like Amazon.com, select a few items, and purchase them. When I want to look for a good deal on used items, I'll visit eBay. With these sites, a flash layout would simply get in the way. This has nothing to due with how often these sites are updated, how new or old the content is, or anything like that, but the way in which the sites and their content are used.

A flash site with a lot of content effectively excludes a good number of people from accessing that content. An all flash layout can even make it difficult to use the content (copying and pasting text for example).

Valcrist · July 30th, 2003

*me loves gimp* thanx to ramsus sig I have no realized gimp.....ahhhh sorry if that was a bit

e-ternity · July 30th, 2003

whoa.... never thought my site would spark up something about flash =|
sorry
and thanks for any good comments

i would go for a php type site but then my isp hosting doesn't allow that....
and i don't feel like hosting my own http server

RamsusX · July 30th, 2003

Oh? Sorry about the whole Flash debate digression. You shouldn't be apologizing for anything.

scottlc · July 30th, 2003

I've never seen a site with a hybrid Flash/HTML layout. For example, a Flash nav bar but HTML content in another frame.

July 29th, 2003	#1 (permalink)
e-ternity ... Join Date: Oct 2001 Location: bc, canada Posts: 499	cool.... i never thought of advertising my site on here, lol check it, its at... http://00project.sytes.net i'm still learning how to use macro flash mx and 3dsmax =P basically flash, haven't touched 3dsmax for a while __________________ Main: a7n8x dlx / athlonXP 2100 / (1)pc2700 512mb/ seagate 80gb/ ati 8500le 64mb.... now ati 9600xt 128mb YAY

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Razor Blade Locked and Loaded Join Date: Aug 2002 Location: I AM CANADIAN! Posts: 12,024	Re: cool.... It isnt really a place to advertise. But you can introduce your site to the members here. __________________ -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Core 2 Duo T7300 2.0 GHz ● NVIDIA GeForce 8400GS ● 2GB DDR2 RAM Hitachi 120GB HD ● Dual Layer DVD+/-RW Drive ● Windows Vista Home Premium ● Dell 2007WFP LCD ● Dell XPS M1330 Laptop ● 1TB Western Digital MyBook External HD ● Logitech Z10 Speakers ● PLAYSTATION 3 --------------------------------------------------------------------------------

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e-ternity ... Join Date: Oct 2001 Location: bc, canada Posts: 499	Re: cool.... o0ooo... advertising it isn't then, lets say its more like improving =) i'll see what you guys say about my noob skills __________________ Main: a7n8x dlx / athlonXP 2100 / (1)pc2700 512mb/ seagate 80gb/ ati 8500le 64mb.... now ati 9600xt 128mb YAY

July 29th, 2003	#4 (permalink)
N1ghtw0lf An American Paradox Join Date: Nov 2002 Location: Call Me Butter Cuz' I'm On A Roll! Posts: 6,822	Re: cool.... I like it good work __________________

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Valcrist Resident Mac User Join Date: Apr 2003 Location: (Hicksville Florida) Posts: 1,447	Re: cool.... no offense to your site, but I for some odd reason don't like flash site....I guess I'm just wierd __________________ \| Athlon 64 3200+ \| ASUS 6600GT \| 1 GB Dual Channel \| 20 GB Windows XP \| 100 GB Ubuntu \| 120 GB Storage \| \|14" iBook G4 1.33Ghz\|512 MB\|Radeon 9200\|60GB OSX Tiger\| >--Visit my blog--< http://blog.efx2.com/user/Tim

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Bonzo Registered User Join Date: Jul 2003 Posts: 8	Re: cool.... because flash just sucks it isnt a real coded website, its slow, you can admire the flash, but you cant admire the good code behind it wich is sad really, id use flash for movies and **** like that but not for a website, html and photoshop is the way a site should be designed or gimp or other image editing proggies, FLASH SUCKS MAJOR ASS FOR WEBSITES, flash is for the commercial users, aimed at mainly little kiddies like disney, some nintendo sites, and i could go on.. its just not coding <--- and we will leave it at that

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scottlc Registered User Join Date: Sep 2002 Location: St Andrews, Scotland Posts: 1,575	Re: cool.... I don't like Square Enix Europe's use of flash, loads too slow. Square Enix Europe: http://www.square-enix-europe.com/ __________________ OS: Arch Linux w/ Kernel 2.6.23.8 + GNOME 2.20.1 - CPU: Intel Pentium M 1.5GHz - Memory: 1280MB DDR PC2700 - Browser: Mozilla Firefox 2.0.0.10

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Razor Blade Locked and Loaded Join Date: Aug 2002 Location: I AM CANADIAN! Posts: 12,024	Re: cool.... Hmm not a bad site. Too bright for me though. Blinds me .. __________________ -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Core 2 Duo T7300 2.0 GHz ● NVIDIA GeForce 8400GS ● 2GB DDR2 RAM Hitachi 120GB HD ● Dual Layer DVD+/-RW Drive ● Windows Vista Home Premium ● Dell 2007WFP LCD ● Dell XPS M1330 Laptop ● 1TB Western Digital MyBook External HD ● Logitech Z10 Speakers ● PLAYSTATION 3 --------------------------------------------------------------------------------

July 29th, 2003	#10 (permalink)
RamsusX Ramsus K Join Date: Mar 2003 Location: Oklahoma Posts: 461	Personally I dislike the use of Flash on websites. It's a proprietary technology, so users are dependent on Macromedia to port their Flash plugin to their browser/platform. It also reduces accessibility for those with disabilities such as blindness, as a site written in Flash can't be viewed or navigated by anyone using a User Agent that isn't visual and doesn't have a viable flash plug-in. Finally, the use of Flash usually reduces the overall usability of a site's layout by making it more difficult to find and use content on a site. A layout's function should always first and foremost be to aid the user in using the site, not impressing the user with how it looks. So for sites with no content, using Flash in the layout is no problem. However, sites with actual worthwhile content should never use Flash in their layouts.

July 29th, 2003	#13 (permalink)
Regulus SEGA Fanatic Join Date: Nov 2002 Location: Nebraska, U.S. Posts: 1,579	Re: cool.... it looks ok. nothing special, but pretty good. __________________ SEGA owns you http://www.exemu.net

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Regulus SEGA Fanatic Join Date: Nov 2002 Location: Nebraska, U.S. Posts: 1,579	Re: cool.... Yea. Just look at flash sites. they dont get updated near as much as HTML or other sites. __________________ SEGA owns you http://www.exemu.net

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Valcrist Resident Mac User Join Date: Apr 2003 Location: (Hicksville Florida) Posts: 1,447	Re: cool.... me loves gimp thanx to ramsus sig I have no realized gimp.....ahhhh sorry if that was a bit __________________ \| Athlon 64 3200+ \| ASUS 6600GT \| 1 GB Dual Channel \| 20 GB Windows XP \| 100 GB Ubuntu \| 120 GB Storage \| \|14" iBook G4 1.33Ghz\|512 MB\|Radeon 9200\|60GB OSX Tiger\| >--Visit my blog--< http://blog.efx2.com/user/Tim

July 30th, 2003	#18 (permalink)
e-ternity ... Join Date: Oct 2001 Location: bc, canada Posts: 499	Re: cool.... whoa.... never thought my site would spark up something about flash =\| sorry and thanks for any good comments i would go for a php type site but then my isp hosting doesn't allow that.... and i don't feel like hosting my own http server __________________ Main: a7n8x dlx / athlonXP 2100 / (1)pc2700 512mb/ seagate 80gb/ ati 8500le 64mb.... now ati 9600xt 128mb YAY

July 30th, 2003	#19 (permalink)
RamsusX Ramsus K Join Date: Mar 2003 Location: Oklahoma Posts: 461	Oh? Sorry about the whole Flash debate digression. You shouldn't be apologizing for anything.

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scottlc Registered User Join Date: Sep 2002 Location: St Andrews, Scotland Posts: 1,575	Re: cool.... I've never seen a site with a hybrid Flash/HTML layout. For example, a Flash nav bar but HTML content in another frame. __________________ OS: Arch Linux w/ Kernel 2.6.23.8 + GNOME 2.20.1 - CPU: Intel Pentium M 1.5GHz - Memory: 1280MB DDR PC2700 - Browser: Mozilla Firefox 2.0.0.10

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