Should VBA Have a .SGM and/or .GBA Editor?

RobotGymnast · October 13th, 2009

I've been thinking that since VBA's already scratched the surface with VBA Hack, they should really go ahead and just make a save file editor. Users could note memory addresses they want to edit (like your HP address), and when the game is saved, VBA could figure out where the HP value is stored, and allow you to edit it.

Also, more advanced game hacking often uses code patching, meaning editing of the game's code. Should VBA have an interface for this? Hypothetically, you could edit the game's code while it's running, as well as save patches to the .GBA file.

If these already exist, let me know.

Squall-Leonhart · October 13th, 2009

didn't you get the memo.?

VBA is DEAD

Also, IT ALREADY HAS A MEMORY EDITOR.

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RobotGymnast · October 13th, 2009

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Originally Posted by Squall-Leonhart

didn't you get the memo.?

VBA is DEAD

Also, IT ALREADY HAS A MEMORY EDITOR.

Hmm, no I didn't. Mainly because I just joined.
And a memory editor is different from a .SGM or .GBA editor. Those being the only two I suggested, did you mean either of those?

**SCHUMI_4EVER** · October 13th, 2009

This also sounds like a typical case of easier said than done.

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RobotGymnast · October 13th, 2009

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Originally Posted by SCHUMI_4EVER

This also sounds like a typical case of easier said than done.

That's true for all things programmed (BOCTAOE), but that doesn't mean they shouldn't be done. I speak from a user's point of view, and think that these would be useful tools. I'd have to see the .SGM saving function to see if it could be done the way I'm thinking.

The same goes for .GBA patching, but it does contain code of some sort, which could be patched. How well VBA was coded will determine how easy these are to implement, but they should be straightforward.

**SCHUMI_4EVER** · October 13th, 2009

You speak from a point of view that can't see how hard it is and if it's even perhaps impossible.

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Squall-Leonhart · October 13th, 2009

Save editors are none of our concern.

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RobotGymnast · October 17th, 2009

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Originally Posted by SCHUMI_4EVER

You speak from a point of view that can't see how hard it is and if it's even perhaps impossible.

It's not impossible. If an address is saved to a .SGM file, it can be traced. I'm a fairly competent programmer, and I understand the IMPORTANCE of developing from a user's point of view.

**SCHUMI_4EVER** · October 17th, 2009

Cost VS Benefit still applies though....you're the first person to suggest anything like this...also I was referring more to live GBA File altering....although that would be covered by the memory viewer and code altering abilities it already has.

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RobotGymnast · October 18th, 2009

true, but I think the benefit would be worth it. Built-in save editors could get useful. VBA already has code-altering abilities? What version of VBA?

**SCHUMI_4EVER** · October 18th, 2009

perhaps I missunderstood what you wanted but whilst not permanent the cheats menu and the tools in the tools menu should be able to accomplish most things.

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October 13th, 2009	#1 (permalink)
RobotGymnast Registered User Join Date: Oct 2009 Location: Ontario Posts: 8	Should VBA Have a .SGM and/or .GBA Editor? I've been thinking that since VBA's already scratched the surface with VBA Hack, they should really go ahead and just make a save file editor. Users could note memory addresses they want to edit (like your HP address), and when the game is saved, VBA could figure out where the HP value is stored, and allow you to edit it. Also, more advanced game hacking often uses code patching, meaning editing of the game's code. Should VBA have an interface for this? Hypothetically, you could edit the game's code while it's running, as well as save patches to the .GBA file. If these already exist, let me know.

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October 13th, 2009	#2 (permalink)
Squall-Leonhart Behind ur girlfriend :D Join Date: Feb 2006 Location: Sydney, Australia Posts: 18,918	didn't you get the memo.? VBA is DEAD Also, IT ALREADY HAS A MEMORY EDITOR. __________________ VBA-M \| Xtemu \| NGOHQ \| Post Impact Productions \| TNHW \| XBCD 0.2.6 \| Satanic666's Emulator Compiles Don't be a NOOB, READ THE NGEmu/EmuForums Rules of Conduct Need Help with ePSXe? This is your first stop!. If you don't post all the required information, you don't get help. Everytime someone posts a romsite, God kills a beautiful woman.

October 13th, 2009	#4 (permalink)
SCHUMI_4EVER Hackin 'n Slashin Join Date: Jan 2007 Location: Corrupt Rapist run South Africa Posts: 11,351	This also sounds like a typical case of easier said than done. __________________ Intel Core2Quad Q9550 (2.83Ghz stock) \| ASUS P5Q \| 2x2GB Transcend JetRam DDR2-800 \| ASUS ENGTX260\HDTP\896M \| Windows Vista Home Premium 64bit SP1 The Champ has retired but may his Legacy live on FOREVER !!!! No$GBA DS FAQ 2.0 Get it right fools! The glass is HALF-EMPTY, not half-full!!! !!! WARNING: Emulation requires a brain !!! WARNING: Emulation =/= Piracy !!!

October 13th, 2009	#6 (permalink)
SCHUMI_4EVER Hackin 'n Slashin Join Date: Jan 2007 Location: Corrupt Rapist run South Africa Posts: 11,351	You speak from a point of view that can't see how hard it is and if it's even perhaps impossible. __________________ Intel Core2Quad Q9550 (2.83Ghz stock) \| ASUS P5Q \| 2x2GB Transcend JetRam DDR2-800 \| ASUS ENGTX260\HDTP\896M \| Windows Vista Home Premium 64bit SP1 The Champ has retired but may his Legacy live on FOREVER !!!! No$GBA DS FAQ 2.0 Get it right fools! The glass is HALF-EMPTY, not half-full!!! !!! WARNING: Emulation requires a brain !!! WARNING: Emulation =/= Piracy !!!

October 13th, 2009	#7 (permalink)
Squall-Leonhart Behind ur girlfriend :D Join Date: Feb 2006 Location: Sydney, Australia Posts: 18,918	Save editors are none of our concern. __________________ VBA-M \| Xtemu \| NGOHQ \| Post Impact Productions \| TNHW \| XBCD 0.2.6 \| Satanic666's Emulator Compiles Don't be a NOOB, READ THE NGEmu/EmuForums Rules of Conduct Need Help with ePSXe? This is your first stop!. If you don't post all the required information, you don't get help. Everytime someone posts a romsite, God kills a beautiful woman.

October 17th, 2009	#9 (permalink)
SCHUMI_4EVER Hackin 'n Slashin Join Date: Jan 2007 Location: Corrupt Rapist run South Africa Posts: 11,351	Cost VS Benefit still applies though....you're the first person to suggest anything like this...also I was referring more to live GBA File altering....although that would be covered by the memory viewer and code altering abilities it already has. __________________ Intel Core2Quad Q9550 (2.83Ghz stock) \| ASUS P5Q \| 2x2GB Transcend JetRam DDR2-800 \| ASUS ENGTX260\HDTP\896M \| Windows Vista Home Premium 64bit SP1 The Champ has retired but may his Legacy live on FOREVER !!!! No$GBA DS FAQ 2.0 Get it right fools! The glass is HALF-EMPTY, not half-full!!! !!! WARNING: Emulation requires a brain !!! WARNING: Emulation =/= Piracy !!!

October 18th, 2009	#10 (permalink)
RobotGymnast Registered User Join Date: Oct 2009 Location: Ontario Posts: 8	true, but I think the benefit would be worth it. Built-in save editors could get useful. VBA already has code-altering abilities? What version of VBA?

October 18th, 2009	#11 (permalink)
SCHUMI_4EVER Hackin 'n Slashin Join Date: Jan 2007 Location: Corrupt Rapist run South Africa Posts: 11,351	perhaps I missunderstood what you wanted but whilst not permanent the cheats menu and the tools in the tools menu should be able to accomplish most things. __________________ Intel Core2Quad Q9550 (2.83Ghz stock) \| ASUS P5Q \| 2x2GB Transcend JetRam DDR2-800 \| ASUS ENGTX260\HDTP\896M \| Windows Vista Home Premium 64bit SP1 The Champ has retired but may his Legacy live on FOREVER !!!! No$GBA DS FAQ 2.0 Get it right fools! The glass is HALF-EMPTY, not half-full!!! !!! WARNING: Emulation requires a brain !!! WARNING: Emulation =/= Piracy !!!