Omega.Vs.Catalyst

Guyver2K6 · August 15th, 2004

well right now i have the catalyst 4.7 drivers installed...
Is there anything better in the Omega drivers that would be better than the 4.7 catalyst drivers, i know OMega is based on ati drivers, but what are there advatages? and dissadvantages...

Guyver

chp · August 15th, 2004

Omega's Drivers are tweaked drivers based on catalyst ones. For each Cat release, there's an equivalent Omega driver.

The advantages of the Omega's are the quality of the tweaks concerning the IQ (Image quality) you'll see ingame. Some time you'll get also a better frame rates. They are known to "correct" issues with some games. Omega is an official beta tester for ATI and thus, he has access to informations wich help. He include also many tools in his drivers wich help you to "softmod", "Overclock" and tweak some aspect of your ATI card.

The disadvantages are none.

There are also many other Catalys moders. Each one adding his own touch for speed or quality or simplycity.

Here are my preferates:

1) Omega's
1) Spirit drivers (exequo)
3) UniAN's
4) NGO's
5) Forsage
6) DNA

**Kirby** · August 15th, 2004

the only problem I can think of with Omega drivers is that if the Catalyst drivers the release is based on is buggy, then most likely the Omega tweaks will make those bugs worse (or better)

chp · August 15th, 2004

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Originally Posted by Kirby

the only problem I can think of with Omega drivers is that if the Catalyst drivers the release is based on is buggy, then most likely the Omega tweaks will make those bugs worse (or better)

Kirby, Have you tryed the Sprint drivers?

**Kirby** · August 15th, 2004

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Originally Posted by chp

Kirby, Have you tryed the Sprint drivers?

I've been always wanting to try those drivers, but I can't seem to find a link for their homepage

chp · August 15th, 2004

Omega : http://www.omegadrivers.net/
Spirit : http://www.radeonthetop.com/spirit/
UniAN : http://www.atimania.com/unian/
NGO : http://www.newgenerationorder.org/index.html
Forsage : http://www.hardwarelab.ru/forsage.php
DNA : http://www.dna-drivers.nl/

**Kirby** · August 15th, 2004

lol...is anything in english anymore?? ;p

chp · August 15th, 2004

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Originally Posted by Kirby

lol...is anything in english anymore?? ;p

LOL.... Kirby, USA is not alone in the world. Some of the best ones are'nt in english but that don't mean they don't install in english and that don't mean they are bad.... ATI has Beta testers around the world...
I tested myself all these sets and I got no problems concerning the language or the regional settings.

**Shadow Lady** · August 15th, 2004

may be, but the language most people understand is english, is not a problem after all spirit drivers are french installer, but is almost too easy to understand it ^^

anyway the thing with omega drivers, is that he usually corrects some problems of the original ati set, he doesnt release the same day as the officil catalyst drivers come, why? because he has to test 'em see what can be improved, what is need to be chnaged and what else can be done, so when kirby said "if the Catalyst drivers the release is based on is buggy, then most likely the Omega tweaks will make those bugs worse (or better)" is just wrong as omegadude only make the drivers better by testing over and over, he even has his own beta tester team

edit: advantages of omega over catalyst original:
-more stable
-better IQ
-tweaked for better performance (remember performance doenst always mean more fps)
-lots of apps to be used
-tools for tweak, overclock and softmod swapers
-smaller installation file size

disadvantages:
-it always shows "(Omega version)" after the name of the card "Radeon 9800 (Omega 2.5.58b)"
-Omegadude takes always a few days after the official Catalyst to release (but it can take as an advantage as u can be sure he tested everything before releasing

edit2: omegas are my favorite, and next the Unian drivers, sipirit are said to be faster but i have seen many errors on 3dmark as well as on games (farcry looks ugly with some gliches), forsage are just drivers to be smaller on filesize to download and have no softmods or many tweaks to be seen, dnas have had many issues in the past and not just rumors (in one installation of this i got many troubles and not even windows system restore could do anything), ngo's i cannot say anything, never tried 'em and i dont want to know as NGO is working with omega on his drivers.

chp · August 16th, 2004

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Originally Posted by * Lady

..... sipirit are said to be faster but i have seen many errors on 3dmark as well as on games (farcry looks ugly with some gliches....

Yes, I saw these gliches too but only when I used the bad softmod version : 9800Pro > 9800XT instead of 9800SE > 9800Pro. After I understood my mistake, I got very good quality and speed. It's writen in the Spirit readme file (yeah...French) that The 9800 > 9800XT softmd doesn't work on all the 9800 cards (only on those sold as 9800 but using the R360 (9800XT) core).

**zenogais** · August 16th, 2004

Quick question, is Spirit any better than Omega?

chp · August 16th, 2004

Quote:

Originally Posted by zenogais

Quick question, is Spirit any better than Omega?

My best reply : test them to make your own opinion... for me, they are different but both are very good and depending on the builds I use one or the other...
For Sidenote, If you decide to try Spirit, don't use the 1.4 or 1.4.1 versions, they are based on cat 4.9 beta (with integrated softmod) and they could be instable. Use the Spirit 1.3 instead.

Guyver2K6 · August 16th, 2004

Well i swtiched to Omega Drivers and i already found a big differerence in the performance of sum of my games

**Razor Blade** · August 16th, 2004

I think when Catylist 4.8 are released and Omega does divers based on those I'll try them out (finally)

RF · August 16th, 2004

Well it was rumored that the 4.8's were supposed to be released thursday. I suspect we should see them soon though.

I usually use ATi's latest driver until omega has his version released.

D.D. · August 16th, 2004

heheh warp2search confused ppl. it was stated by terry (catalyst maker at rage3d.com) that the release was always gonna be on Monday August 16.

Guyver2K6 · August 16th, 2004

Awsome i hope 4.8 is release before next week

August 15th, 2004	#1 (permalink)
Guyver2K6 Graphic Designer Join Date: Aug 2004 Location: I AM CANADIAN! Posts: 857	Omega.Vs.Catalyst well right now i have the catalyst 4.7 drivers installed... Is there anything better in the Omega drivers that would be better than the 4.7 catalyst drivers, i know OMega is based on ati drivers, but what are there advatages? and dissadvantages... Guyver __________________ •••Mary Jane is the only thing that makes the pain stop••• 360GamerTag - SteFanO420

August 15th, 2004	#2 (permalink)
chp Bip...Bip... Join Date: Apr 2001 Location: on Earth Posts: 966	Omega's Drivers are tweaked drivers based on catalyst ones. For each Cat release, there's an equivalent Omega driver. The advantages of the Omega's are the quality of the tweaks concerning the IQ (Image quality) you'll see ingame. Some time you'll get also a better frame rates. They are known to "correct" issues with some games. Omega is an official beta tester for ATI and thus, he has access to informations wich help. He include also many tools in his drivers wich help you to "softmod", "Overclock" and tweak some aspect of your ATI card. The disadvantages are none. There are also many other Catalys moders. Each one adding his own touch for speed or quality or simplycity. Here are my preferates: 1) Omega's 1) Spirit drivers (exequo) 3) UniAN's 4) NGO's 5) Forsage 6) DNA __________________ If god doesn't exist in our world, then...I will create god with my own hands!

August 15th, 2004	#3 (permalink)
Kirby Politically incorrect FTW Join Date: Mar 2002 Location: Massachusetts, USA Posts: 8,445	the only problem I can think of with Omega drivers is that if the Catalyst drivers the release is based on is buggy, then most likely the Omega tweaks will make those bugs worse (or better) __________________ AMD Athlon64 X2 4400+ Toledo, Nvidia GeForce 7950GT SLi, 2GB PC3200 2-3-2-5, ABit AN8-SLi, Sound Blaster X-FI XtremeMusic

August 15th, 2004	#6 (permalink)
chp Bip...Bip... Join Date: Apr 2001 Location: on Earth Posts: 966	Omega : http://www.omegadrivers.net/ Spirit : http://www.radeonthetop.com/spirit/ UniAN : http://www.atimania.com/unian/ NGO : http://www.newgenerationorder.org/index.html Forsage : http://www.hardwarelab.ru/forsage.php DNA : http://www.dna-drivers.nl/ __________________ If god doesn't exist in our world, then...I will create god with my own hands!

August 15th, 2004	#7 (permalink)
Kirby Politically incorrect FTW Join Date: Mar 2002 Location: Massachusetts, USA Posts: 8,445	lol...is anything in english anymore?? ;p __________________ AMD Athlon64 X2 4400+ Toledo, Nvidia GeForce 7950GT SLi, 2GB PC3200 2-3-2-5, ABit AN8-SLi, Sound Blaster X-FI XtremeMusic

August 15th, 2004	#9 (permalink)
Shadow Lady Advanced Newbie Join Date: Jul 2001 Location: Bogotá... not that it matters... Posts: 5,003	may be, but the language most people understand is english, is not a problem after all spirit drivers are french installer, but is almost too easy to understand it ^^ anyway the thing with omega drivers, is that he usually corrects some problems of the original ati set, he doesnt release the same day as the officil catalyst drivers come, why? because he has to test 'em see what can be improved, what is need to be chnaged and what else can be done, so when kirby said "if the Catalyst drivers the release is based on is buggy, then most likely the Omega tweaks will make those bugs worse (or better)" is just wrong as omegadude only make the drivers better by testing over and over, he even has his own beta tester team edit: advantages of omega over catalyst original: -more stable -better IQ -tweaked for better performance (remember performance doenst always mean more fps) -lots of apps to be used -tools for tweak, overclock and softmod swapers -smaller installation file size disadvantages: -it always shows "(Omega version)" after the name of the card "Radeon 9800 (Omega 2.5.58b)" -Omegadude takes always a few days after the official Catalyst to release (but it can take as an advantage as u can be sure he tested everything before releasing edit2: omegas are my favorite, and next the Unian drivers, sipirit are said to be faster but i have seen many errors on 3dmark as well as on games (farcry looks ugly with some gliches), forsage are just drivers to be smaller on filesize to download and have no softmods or many tweaks to be seen, dnas have had many issues in the past and not just rumors (in one installation of this i got many troubles and not even windows system restore could do anything), ngo's i cannot say anything, never tried 'em and i dont want to know as NGO is working with omega on his drivers. __________________ Main Rig: Pentium Dual-Core E2160 @ 2.5GHz -- 7600GT @ 650/800MHz -- 2GB DDR2-667 4-4-4-12 -- Windows XP Pro SP3 Collecting dust: AMD Athlon XP 2600+ -- ATI Radeon 9500 Pro -- SB Live 5.1 Digital -- 2.5GB DDR 2-2-2-5 Ram -- Windows 2003 server r2 SP1

August 16th, 2004	#11 (permalink)
zenogais Emu author Join Date: Aug 2003 Location: Victorville(Near Los Angeles or LA for those who are on the DL) Posts: 839	Quick question, is Spirit any better than Omega? __________________ ----------------- Emu Tinkerer and C++ Programmer

August 16th, 2004	#13 (permalink)
Guyver2K6 Graphic Designer Join Date: Aug 2004 Location: I AM CANADIAN! Posts: 857	Well i swtiched to Omega Drivers and i already found a big differerence in the performance of sum of my games __________________ •••Mary Jane is the only thing that makes the pain stop••• 360GamerTag - SteFanO420

August 16th, 2004	#14 (permalink)
Razor Blade Locked and Loaded Join Date: Aug 2002 Location: I AM CANADIAN! Posts: 12,030	I think when Catylist 4.8 are released and Omega does divers based on those I'll try them out (finally) __________________ -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Core 2 Duo T7300 2.0 GHz ● NVIDIA GeForce 8400GS ● 2GB DDR2 RAM Hitachi 120GB HD ● Dual Layer DVD+/-RW Drive ● Windows Vista Home Premium ● Dell 2007WFP LCD ● Dell XPS M1330 Laptop ● 1TB Western Digital MyBook External HD ● Logitech Z10 Speakers ● PLAYSTATION 3 --------------------------------------------------------------------------------

August 16th, 2004	#15 (permalink)
RF Canadian Spaceman Join Date: May 2002 Location: Canada Posts: 8,594	Well it was rumored that the 4.8's were supposed to be released thursday. I suspect we should see them soon though. I usually use ATi's latest driver until omega has his version released. __________________

August 16th, 2004	#16 (permalink)
D.D. band Join Date: Apr 2002 Location: HERE Posts: 4,575	heheh warp2search confused ppl. it was stated by terry (catalyst maker at rage3d.com) that the release was always gonna be on Monday August 16. __________________ 1. Small, Cheap, Powerful - you can have only two 2. Everytime you engineer something foolproof, the world comes up with a better idiot. 3. 「学問とは虚栄である。」 The PS3 Cell Processor Explained Page, IBM Research's Introduction to Cell Multiprocessor and Cell Processor Programming Guide

August 16th, 2004	#17 (permalink)
Guyver2K6 Graphic Designer Join Date: Aug 2004 Location: I AM CANADIAN! Posts: 857	Awsome i hope 4.8 is release before next week __________________ •••Mary Jane is the only thing that makes the pain stop••• 360GamerTag - SteFanO420

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