Win2K -> WinXP migration

Omegainf · May 28th, 2003

I'm gonna do it today 'cos some games I want to play don't run propperly on Win2K but do on WinXP.
My question is, do I reeeeeeeally need to format my hard disk? I mean, both systems share the same core so I think it's allright just to install winxp over my win2k

Any suggestion?

aetherspoon · May 28th, 2003

Not a good idea. It is _ALWAYS_ suggested that you reformat when installing a new operating system.

Badaro · May 28th, 2003

Quote:

Originally posted by Omegainf
I'm gonna do it today 'cos some games I want to play don't run propperly on Win2K but do on WinXP.
My question is, do I reeeeeeeally need to format my hard disk? I mean, both systems share the same core so I think it's allright just to install winxp over my win2k

Any suggestion?

You don't need to format, but it's always better if you do.

[]s Badaro

**Demigod** · May 28th, 2003

Quote:

Originally posted by Omegainf
I'm gonna do it today 'cos some games I want to play don't run propperly on Win2K but do on WinXP.

What games would those be? In my experience games run just as well in 2K as in XP.

**Shiori** · May 28th, 2003

Same here, but maybe the Compatibility mode clinched it... or something like that.

Omegainf · May 28th, 2003

Final Fantasy VII and MUGEN.

And I can't format because I don't have a second hard-disk to keep my stuff

**Demigod** · May 28th, 2003

Quote:

Originally posted by Shiori
Same here, but maybe the Compatibility mode clinched it... or something like that.

Windows 2000 has compatibility mode as well (feature originally came out with service pack 2 I believe). Of course it's not as streamlined as XP (have to do it through shortcut) but it does the same thing.

Quote:

Originally posted by Omegainf
Final Fantasy VII and MUGEN.

And I can't format because I don't have a second hard-disk to keep my stuff

Well I don't know about MUGEN but Windows XP won't improve things with FF VII. The game only really works on Windows 9x machines and only really with Voodoo cards (Nvidia patch has some minor bugs). The problem is that the game exploits some core vulnerabilities in the 9x core that do not exist in the NT core.

**Kane** · May 28th, 2003

FF7 will work through a couple of patches avaliable from the qhimm page

**Demigod** · May 28th, 2003

Just saying it won't be any different in XP than in 2K, plus I think there's a problem in one part of the game that's still been unresolved (Chocobo racing part). Last time I heard it required some binary hack or something, wasn't entirely sure of it or if it worked at all.

Omegainf: I upgraded to Windows XP (from 2K) for almost the same reasons as you (better gaming support) and it wasn't an improvement at all. I doubt going to XP will solve your problem with those games. Just get the latest service packs and upgrades and try to find an NT workaround for them. My advice would be to just stick with 2K and find patches for them or do a dual-boot with 9x.

Badaro · May 28th, 2003

Quote:

Originally posted by Demigod
Just saying it won't be any different in XP than in 2K, plus I think there's a problem in one part of the game that's still been unresolved (Chocobo racing part). Last time I heard it required some binary hack or something, wasn't entirely sure of it or if it worked at all.

A patch fixing the Chocobo Races is available for about an year now. Here's the original post of the solution:

http://forums.qhimm.com/viewtopic.php?t=1245

The patch can be downloaded here:

http://forums.qhimm.com/viewtopic.php?t=1662

[]s Badaro

Omegainf · May 28th, 2003

Cool, XP is installed (it looks soooooo cool

) but instead of "upgrading" from my 2k installation it created a c:\windows and installed xp on it which means now I can dual-boot xp/2k but I don't want it.
How can I uninstall 2k, remove the boot menu and get my start menu items back? I think that with the start menu I can simply copy/paste it from the "documents and settings" folder, can't I?

Omegainf · May 28th, 2003

Actually, after COUNTLESS system halts I've decided to keep w2k and get rid ASAP of that crappy XP, how can I do it?

DB7 · May 28th, 2003

Do you have them installed on FAT32 or NTFS, this type of info can help a lot with OS help.
On the off chance that you do have them on FAT32 grab a copy of the Windows ME bootdisk (www.bootdisk.com) and restart.
Once in DOS navigate to the hard disk and use this command

deltree windows

or it could be

deltree C:\windows

Its been a while since I did this so not exactly sure of the DOS commands.
Once the directory has been deleted boot back into the remaining OS and Right Click on the My Computer Icon and select Properties, once there select the Startup and recovery tab, then set your default as Windows 2000 and untick the option to show the Boot Menu, when you next restart you will head straight into Windows 2000 and have the chance to tidyup the XP remains.

I would suggestb though that you invest in a cheap CD Burner and backup all your important stuff, you never know when a power cut or case of Little Brother will damage you computer and its hard drive.

Omegainf · May 29th, 2003

I'm on NTFS. Changed my mind, gonna keep XP and shift+del c:\winnt

Then I'll find a way to remove that multi-boot menu

DB7 · May 29th, 2003

Both 2000 and XP have the Startup and Recovery option, get to it through System in the Control Panel or Right Clicking on the My Computer Icon, there you can select your default OS and select to show the boot menu or not, its that simple.

Badaro · May 29th, 2003

Quote:

Originally posted by Omegainf
Then I'll find a way to remove that multi-boot menu

There's a hidden file in the root directory of the boot partition called "boot.ini". Open it with notepad and there should be an entry for each OS, delete the one for the OS you don't want anymore. Also, make sure the default OS is set to the one you wish to keep.

[]s Badaro

Omegainf · May 29th, 2003

Thanks guys

Kraelis · May 29th, 2003

Mugen? Does it even work with XP? I use 9x or Linux.

**Shiori** · May 29th, 2003

AFAIK it doesn't work with XP since it's a DOS/Linux program... that or my Mugen knowledge is terribly outdated.

Omegainf · May 29th, 2003

Lots of people claim to have it working on XP and there's even a tutorial on the web but even then it didn't work for me

May 28th, 2003	#1 (permalink)
Omegainf Penadinho Join Date: Jun 2001 Location: Rio de Janeiro Posts: 2,565	Win2K -> WinXP migration I'm gonna do it today 'cos some games I want to play don't run propperly on Win2K but do on WinXP. My question is, do I reeeeeeeally need to format my hard disk? I mean, both systems share the same core so I think it's allright just to install winxp over my win2k Any suggestion? __________________

May 28th, 2003	#2 (permalink)
aetherspoon Registered User Join Date: Apr 2002 Location: Memory Address FF3E:7BA1 Posts: 11	Not a good idea. It is _ALWAYS_ suggested that you reformat when installing a new operating system. __________________ -Æther SPOON!

May 28th, 2003	#5 (permalink)
Shiori :3 Join Date: Aug 2001 Location: Seoul, South Korea Posts: 10,116	Same here, but maybe the Compatibility mode clinched it... or something like that. __________________ "...And when I finally meet you again, I want to ask you - have you found what you were looking for? Because that's what I felt you were doing, all these years. And I want to hear you answer, "Yes, I have, thank you for asking," and we'll be together again, until the end of our days..."

May 28th, 2003	#6 (permalink)
Omegainf Penadinho Join Date: Jun 2001 Location: Rio de Janeiro Posts: 2,565	Final Fantasy VII and MUGEN. And I can't format because I don't have a second hard-disk to keep my stuff __________________

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Kane 邪魔ゎ指せない Join Date: Jan 2002 Location: Gosport, England Posts: 26,255	FF7 will work through a couple of patches avaliable from the qhimm page __________________ >Site Live< Pop over to my site for help with setting up PSX emulators. Help for the Final Fantasies and other RPGs avalaible Celes: (Desktop) Athlon 64 X2 4200+, 2Gb 400MHz DDR Ram, MSI K8N Platinum, GeForce 8800 GTS 320Mb, 500Gb RAID HDD, Vista Business Erika: (MCPC) Athlon XP 2400+, 1Gb 400MHz DDR Ram, geForce 6800 256Mb, 80Gb Hdd, XP 2005 MCE Kimiko: (Desktop 2) Athlon 64 3000+, 512Mb 400MHz DDR Ram, Asus K8V, geForce 6800 128Mb

May 28th, 2003	#9 (permalink)
Demigod これはバタスです Join Date: Jun 2001 Location: Toronto, Ontario, Canada Posts: 5,811	Just saying it won't be any different in XP than in 2K, plus I think there's a problem in one part of the game that's still been unresolved (Chocobo racing part). Last time I heard it required some binary hack or something, wasn't entirely sure of it or if it worked at all. Omegainf: I upgraded to Windows XP (from 2K) for almost the same reasons as you (better gaming support) and it wasn't an improvement at all. I doubt going to XP will solve your problem with those games. Just get the latest service packs and upgrades and try to find an NT workaround for them. My advice would be to just stick with 2K and find patches for them or do a dual-boot with 9x. __________________ CPU: Intel Core 2 Quad Q9450 @ 2.66 Ghz (Yorkfield) Mobo: Intel DX48BT2 Memory: 2048 MB PC10600 DDR3 Videocard: PNY Geforce 9800 GX2 PCIe w/ 1024 MB GDDR3 Soundcard: On-board SigmaTel High Definition Audio Hard drive: 300 MB Maxtor & 1 TB Hitachi Optical drive: LG GGW-H20L (2x BD-R DL) OS: Microsoft Windows Vista (32-bit)

May 28th, 2003	#11 (permalink)
Omegainf Penadinho Join Date: Jun 2001 Location: Rio de Janeiro Posts: 2,565	Cool, XP is installed (it looks soooooo cool ) but instead of "upgrading" from my 2k installation it created a c:\windows and installed xp on it which means now I can dual-boot xp/2k but I don't want it. How can I uninstall 2k, remove the boot menu and get my start menu items back? I think that with the start menu I can simply copy/paste it from the "documents and settings" folder, can't I? __________________

May 28th, 2003	#12 (permalink)
Omegainf Penadinho Join Date: Jun 2001 Location: Rio de Janeiro Posts: 2,565	Actually, after COUNTLESS system halts I've decided to keep w2k and get rid ASAP of that crappy XP, how can I do it? __________________

May 28th, 2003	#13 (permalink)
DB7 Miserable Bugger Join Date: Jan 2002 Posts: 998	Do you have them installed on FAT32 or NTFS, this type of info can help a lot with OS help. On the off chance that you do have them on FAT32 grab a copy of the Windows ME bootdisk (www.bootdisk.com) and restart. Once in DOS navigate to the hard disk and use this command deltree windows or it could be deltree C:\windows Its been a while since I did this so not exactly sure of the DOS commands. Once the directory has been deleted boot back into the remaining OS and Right Click on the My Computer Icon and select Properties, once there select the Startup and recovery tab, then set your default as Windows 2000 and untick the option to show the Boot Menu, when you next restart you will head straight into Windows 2000 and have the chance to tidyup the XP remains. I would suggestb though that you invest in a cheap CD Burner and backup all your important stuff, you never know when a power cut or case of Little Brother will damage you computer and its hard drive.

May 29th, 2003	#14 (permalink)
Omegainf Penadinho Join Date: Jun 2001 Location: Rio de Janeiro Posts: 2,565	I'm on NTFS. Changed my mind, gonna keep XP and shift+del c:\winnt Then I'll find a way to remove that multi-boot menu __________________

May 29th, 2003	#15 (permalink)
DB7 Miserable Bugger Join Date: Jan 2002 Posts: 998	Both 2000 and XP have the Startup and Recovery option, get to it through System in the Control Panel or Right Clicking on the My Computer Icon, there you can select your default OS and select to show the boot menu or not, its that simple.

May 29th, 2003	#17 (permalink)
Omegainf Penadinho Join Date: Jun 2001 Location: Rio de Janeiro Posts: 2,565	Thanks guys __________________

May 29th, 2003	#18 (permalink)
Kraelis Fallen Join Date: Jun 2001 Location: Moonlight Spire Posts: 1,393	Mugen? Does it even work with XP? I use 9x or Linux. __________________ --KrÆlis Cross Mundus vult decipi, ergo decipiatur =============== Athlon 64 x2 3800\| Asrock ALiveNF6G-VSTA \| Kingston DDR2 1 Gb RAM

May 29th, 2003	#19 (permalink)
Shiori :3 Join Date: Aug 2001 Location: Seoul, South Korea Posts: 10,116	AFAIK it doesn't work with XP since it's a DOS/Linux program... that or my Mugen knowledge is terribly outdated. __________________ "...And when I finally meet you again, I want to ask you - have you found what you were looking for? Because that's what I felt you were doing, all these years. And I want to hear you answer, "Yes, I have, thank you for asking," and we'll be together again, until the end of our days..."

May 29th, 2003	#20 (permalink)
Omegainf Penadinho Join Date: Jun 2001 Location: Rio de Janeiro Posts: 2,565	Lots of people claim to have it working on XP and there's even a tutorial on the web but even then it didn't work for me __________________

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