12.60 Detonators

June 4th, 2001

Nvidia Detonator beta drivers are out. Get em at www.3dchipset.com www.reactorcritcal.com is down and www.m3dzone.com will probably have them as well (I didn't check). I got mine at 3dchipset. The info says that D3D users may notice a performance increase. Get em while they're hot.
I'll be testing mine later and will post tomorrow and let everyone know what I have found out.

sincerely,
sx/amiga

Particleman · June 4th, 2001

*sigh* just installed them on my GeForce 3 machine, they still haven't fixed that problem with gaps between tiles on static 2D backgrounds like those found in squaresoft games when FSAA is enabled. Damn I really wish Nvidia would fix that bug.

They did seem to up my 3Dmark 2001 scores though, for whatever that's worth.

On my GeForce 2 system, nothing much seems to have changed, infact recent driver releases have seemed to actually decrease my performance a frame or two with my GF2, I think I'm going to stop bothering with new drivers on my GF2 sysrem, unless a new directX is released.

June 4th, 2001

12.41 was also released..

Nvidia is also seemingly trying to fight leaked drivers, take a look.

June 5th, 2001

Thanks CD for the link and info. I'll just continue to get them as long as they are made available. 12.60 work great, just as well as 12.40, maybe a little better.
sincerely,
sx/amiga

June 5th, 2001

thanks for keeping us updated

SanDRocK · June 5th, 2001

I tryed the 12.60 drivers today and thay worked pritty good probably same as 12.40 except for 1 problem with the win2k driver, it wouldn't let me switch my anti aliasing manually, if i selected it, all the options(2x 4x etc.) would just stay grayed out....

FINALmasa · June 9th, 2001

I've heard that the 12.41 drivers are better for the GF2. Or 12.00 may be the best. Pick one of those, unless you get some better benchmarks with others.

404 · June 9th, 2001

Tried em all, but not 12.60 - maybe download it later. But IMO, the one thats fits me is only the 758 - I have 3dmark 2001 score ; 2065 with GF2MX

June 9th, 2001

I push 4000+ with the 12.40 betas..

**SimonMallion** · June 9th, 2001

Mmm... you have a nice system CDBuRnOuT, I get 2250 in Win2k with my overclocked Athlon 700 (with 12.60 detonators)

May be time for upgrade.

BOB · June 9th, 2001

I'm just wondering what kind of performance increase there is between the official 12.41 drivers and the beta 12.60 ones.

Has anyone tested and seen an improvement in performance when they went from 12.41 to 12.60?

BOB

June 10th, 2001

I switched from 12.60 drivers to "offical" 12.41 drivers and have noticed no difference. No loss of speed, color, or performance. The weird thing is, I downloaded them directly from Nvidia and installed them, but DX 8 still says they are not certified and they are supposed to be (the 12.41s that is). Does anyone know what is going on? On Nvidia's site it even says that the 12.41 Detonator Drivers are WHQL certified by MS for DX 8. But DX 8 says they aren't.

Very very starnge.
sincerely,
sx/amiga

BOB · June 10th, 2001

Did you install the 12.41 over the previous 12.60 drivers?

Or did you uninstall the 12.60 drivers first from add/remove, then reboot and install the 12.41 drivers?

I've noticed that some driver versions come with extra stuff whereas other versions don't, what could be happening is that you haven't uninstalled the 12.60 drivers before installing the 12.41 drivers and there are some resident files left over from the 12.60 drivers and thats why its saying it isn't WHQL certified.

And so its seeing these non-certified 12.60 resident files left over and its telling you the drivers aren't certified.

Just a guess though.

You could check out www.geforcefaq.com that usually has the answer for just about anything GeForce related.

You could try a total uninstall of your drivers then a install of the 12.41 drivers, see for this.

BOB

June 10th, 2001

Thanks, I'll give that a try. Sound logical to me.
sincerely,
sx/amiga

**SimonMallion** · June 10th, 2001

I didn't notice any difference between 12.41 and 12.60 speed wise, seemed about the same in 3dMark2001.

SanDRocK · June 10th, 2001

i've usein the 12.41 drivers now, and for me thay seem a bit more stable for some reason than the 12.40 drivers

June 11th, 2001

SanDRock, does DX say that your 12.41 drivers are certified. My DX still says that they are not and I tried what BOB said. It still did not make any difference. It still says that the drivers are not certified. Oh well, I'm not going to worry about it. They work great and I'm going to stay w/them.
sincerely,
sx/amiga

SanDRocK · June 11th, 2001

yup dxdiag says all my drivers are certified

June 4th, 2001	#1 (permalink)
sxamiga Guest Posts: n/a	12.60 Detonators Nvidia Detonator beta drivers are out. Get em at www.3dchipset.com www.reactorcritcal.com is down and www.m3dzone.com will probably have them as well (I didn't check). I got mine at 3dchipset. The info says that D3D users may notice a performance increase. Get em while they're hot. I'll be testing mine later and will post tomorrow and let everyone know what I have found out. sincerely, sx/amiga

June 5th, 2001	#6 (permalink)
SanDRocK StizowneD Join Date: Apr 2001 Location: Edmonton, Alberta Posts: 298	I tryed the 12.60 drivers today and thay worked pritty good probably same as 12.40 except for 1 problem with the win2k driver, it wouldn't let me switch my anti aliasing manually, if i selected it, all the options(2x 4x etc.) would just stay grayed out.... __________________ Gaming Rig OS= Vista Ultimate 64Bit CPU = Pent D extreme 3.4GHz w/ HT Mobo = Dell mobo based on intel 955X chipset Ram = 2Gigs 667MHz DDR2 SDRam HDD = 320Gig Raid0 Array (2x 160Gig SATA2 (16meg cache each) 10000RPM GFX = ATI Radeon X850 XT Platinum (512Meg DDR3 model) 21" Dell Widescreen LCD Audio = SBlaster X-Fi Fatal1ty on 5.1 Digi suroundsound Faster than a Burning Bud, More Powerfull than a hit from a bong, Able to eat huge amounts of snacks, Look through the smoke.. Its a skunk...... Its a grassfire...... Its.... Its.... GanjaMAN!!! Man of WEED (TM)

June 9th, 2001	#8 (permalink)
404 Ultraman Agent Join Date: May 2001 Location: 0101001111010110101001 Posts: 680	Tried em all, but not 12.60 - maybe download it later. But IMO, the one thats fits me is only the 758 - I have 3dmark 2001 score ; 2065 with GF2MX __________________ = hah hah hah! I'm back! not! = --- Last edited by 404 on 09-09-99 at 06:66 AM

June 9th, 2001	#10 (permalink)
SimonMallion Emu author Join Date: Apr 2001 Location: England Posts: 1,062	Mmm... you have a nice system CDBuRnOuT, I get 2250 in Win2k with my overclocked Athlon 700 (with 12.60 detonators) May be time for upgrade. __________________ http://simonmallion.homedns.org/PSXMemTool Last edited by SimonMallion; June 9th, 2001 at 16:42.

June 10th, 2001	#13 (permalink)
BOB Registered User Join Date: Jun 2001 Location: The evil and horribly corrupt capitalist west Posts: 190	Did you install the 12.41 over the previous 12.60 drivers? Or did you uninstall the 12.60 drivers first from add/remove, then reboot and install the 12.41 drivers? I've noticed that some driver versions come with extra stuff whereas other versions don't, what could be happening is that you haven't uninstalled the 12.60 drivers before installing the 12.41 drivers and there are some resident files left over from the 12.60 drivers and thats why its saying it isn't WHQL certified. And so its seeing these non-certified 12.60 resident files left over and its telling you the drivers aren't certified. Just a guess though. You could check out www.geforcefaq.com that usually has the answer for just about anything GeForce related. You could try a total uninstall of your drivers then a install of the 12.41 drivers, see for this. BOB Last edited by BOB; June 10th, 2001 at 03:54.

June 4th, 2001	#2 (permalink)
Particleman Registered User Join Date: Apr 2001 Posts: 462	sigh just installed them on my GeForce 3 machine, they still haven't fixed that problem with gaps between tiles on static 2D backgrounds like those found in squaresoft games when FSAA is enabled. Damn I really wish Nvidia would fix that bug. They did seem to up my 3Dmark 2001 scores though, for whatever that's worth. On my GeForce 2 system, nothing much seems to have changed, infact recent driver releases have seemed to actually decrease my performance a frame or two with my GF2, I think I'm going to stop bothering with new drivers on my GF2 sysrem, unless a new directX is released.

June 4th, 2001	#3 (permalink)
CDBuRnOuT Guest Posts: n/a	12.41 was also released.. Nvidia is also seemingly trying to fight leaked drivers, take a look.

June 5th, 2001	#4 (permalink)
sxamiga Guest Posts: n/a	Thanks CD for the link and info. I'll just continue to get them as long as they are made available. 12.60 work great, just as well as 12.40, maybe a little better. sincerely, sx/amiga

June 5th, 2001	#5 (permalink)
Samor Guest Posts: n/a	thanks for keeping us updated

June 9th, 2001	#7 (permalink)
FINALmasa Registered User Join Date: Jun 2001 Posts: 69	I've heard that the 12.41 drivers are better for the GF2. Or 12.00 may be the best. Pick one of those, unless you get some better benchmarks with others.

June 9th, 2001	#9 (permalink)
CDBuRnOuT Guest Posts: n/a	I push 4000+ with the 12.40 betas..

June 9th, 2001	#11 (permalink)
BOB Registered User Join Date: Jun 2001 Location: The evil and horribly corrupt capitalist west Posts: 190	I'm just wondering what kind of performance increase there is between the official 12.41 drivers and the beta 12.60 ones. Has anyone tested and seen an improvement in performance when they went from 12.41 to 12.60? BOB

June 10th, 2001	#12 (permalink)
sxamiga Guest Posts: n/a	I switched from 12.60 drivers to "offical" 12.41 drivers and have noticed no difference. No loss of speed, color, or performance. The weird thing is, I downloaded them directly from Nvidia and installed them, but DX 8 still says they are not certified and they are supposed to be (the 12.41s that is). Does anyone know what is going on? On Nvidia's site it even says that the 12.41 Detonator Drivers are WHQL certified by MS for DX 8. But DX 8 says they aren't. Very very starnge. sincerely, sx/amiga

June 10th, 2001	#14 (permalink)
sxamiga Guest Posts: n/a	Thanks, I'll give that a try. Sound logical to me. sincerely, sx/amiga

June 10th, 2001	#15 (permalink)
SimonMallion Emu author Join Date: Apr 2001 Location: England Posts: 1,062	I didn't notice any difference between 12.41 and 12.60 speed wise, seemed about the same in 3dMark2001. __________________ http://simonmallion.homedns.org/PSXMemTool

June 10th, 2001	#16 (permalink)
SanDRocK StizowneD Join Date: Apr 2001 Location: Edmonton, Alberta Posts: 298	i've usein the 12.41 drivers now, and for me thay seem a bit more stable for some reason than the 12.40 drivers __________________ Gaming Rig OS= Vista Ultimate 64Bit CPU = Pent D extreme 3.4GHz w/ HT Mobo = Dell mobo based on intel 955X chipset Ram = 2Gigs 667MHz DDR2 SDRam HDD = 320Gig Raid0 Array (2x 160Gig SATA2 (16meg cache each) 10000RPM GFX = ATI Radeon X850 XT Platinum (512Meg DDR3 model) 21" Dell Widescreen LCD Audio = SBlaster X-Fi Fatal1ty on 5.1 Digi suroundsound Faster than a Burning Bud, More Powerfull than a hit from a bong, Able to eat huge amounts of snacks, Look through the smoke.. Its a skunk...... Its a grassfire...... Its.... Its.... GanjaMAN!!! Man of WEED (TM)

June 11th, 2001	#17 (permalink)
sxamiga Guest Posts: n/a	SanDRock, does DX say that your 12.41 drivers are certified. My DX still says that they are not and I tried what BOB said. It still did not make any difference. It still says that the drivers are not certified. Oh well, I'm not going to worry about it. They work great and I'm going to stay w/them. sincerely, sx/amiga Last edited by sxamiga; June 11th, 2001 at 03:20.

June 11th, 2001	#18 (permalink)
SanDRocK StizowneD Join Date: Apr 2001 Location: Edmonton, Alberta Posts: 298	yup dxdiag says all my drivers are certified __________________ Gaming Rig OS= Vista Ultimate 64Bit CPU = Pent D extreme 3.4GHz w/ HT Mobo = Dell mobo based on intel 955X chipset Ram = 2Gigs 667MHz DDR2 SDRam HDD = 320Gig Raid0 Array (2x 160Gig SATA2 (16meg cache each) 10000RPM GFX = ATI Radeon X850 XT Platinum (512Meg DDR3 model) 21" Dell Widescreen LCD Audio = SBlaster X-Fi Fatal1ty on 5.1 Digi suroundsound Faster than a Burning Bud, More Powerfull than a hit from a bong, Able to eat huge amounts of snacks, Look through the smoke.. Its a skunk...... Its a grassfire...... Its.... Its.... GanjaMAN!!! Man of WEED (TM)

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