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[Squall-Leonhart]

wrong, ATI has the issue as well, its just less people have ATI.

the problem is within the Displays EDID/DDC detection, if you can turn that off then you can force the refresh you want. Easiest method, since you use a CRT is to pull pin 15 of the monitor cable. this will force the display to only make use of the refresh modes set in the inf file.

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[Hatorijr]

attempting to even compare xp to vista/windows 7 is retarded, plain and simple. xp is old as dirt now, and needs to be shown the door imho.

since installing vista i rarely touch xp and i will get 7 when released. also unless using latest version of 7, its not wise to claim it has a particular bug unless its also reported in the final release build :/.

[Squall-Leonhart]

the main RC bugs have followed into RTM.

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[gamefreak94]

Having an ATI card, I'm not facing any such problems. I'll see what happens when I switch to Nvidia.

Originally Posted by Hatorijr

attempting to even compare xp to vista/windows 7 is retarded, plain and simple. xp is old as dirt now, and needs to be shown the door imho.

Unless you give very high prestige to eye-candy, XP is on the same level as the other 2. Every new software out on the market in perfectly compatible with it (and will be for quite some time, at least until Win 7 SP1). And MS support for it is gonna last till 2013.
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This is where I'm gonna cut the OS talk, don't want another OS debate here xD

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[Lord Zedeck]

Originally Posted by Squall-Leonhart

wrong, ATI has the issue as well, its just less people have ATI.

the problem is within the Displays EDID/DDC detection, if you can turn that off then you can force the refresh you want. Easiest method, since you use a CRT is to pull pin 15 of the monitor cable. this will force the display to only make use of the refresh modes set in the inf file.

Well, I'll try my parents' ATi card and find out for myself.

It's something nVidia's drivers did after 182.50, so it's obviously the drivers, so it'll be interesting to see why ATi's would have it too. nVidia changed behavior of something in it's post 182.50 drivers that is making it interpolate some (not all) CRTs at lower than their "native" resolution, almost as though they were an LCD. It may be related to EDID (in fact, I do believe that it is part of the equation), but the fact is, it's nVidia's fault/cause. This is a bug, no doubt, but it happened because of the changes they made between the two versions it was introduced in. If ATi hardware/drivers don't exhibit this problem, and nVidia doesn't fix the problem, as much as I don't want to admit it, it will likely drive me away to an ATi GPU.

I did read other people say something about removing a pin for something, but I'd rather not alter/damage my hardware to work around nVidia's or Microsoft's issues. The cable, however, isn't connected to my monitor permanently, though, so I'd be damaging a $10-$15 cable at least. I don't know, this may be something I might try, but only as a last resort.

Originally Posted by Hatorijr

attempting to even compare xp to vista/windows 7 is retarded, plain and simple. xp is old as dirt now, and needs to be shown the door imho.

since installing vista i rarely touch xp and i will get 7 when released. also unless using latest version of 7, its not wise to claim it has a particular bug unless its also reported in the final release build :/.

Ughm, woah there.

1. This isn't a comparison of operating systems, so get out. I've seen how those debates go here, and I don't want this thread becoming any of that.

2. This is about my experiences, and they are what they are. That's the end of it.

3. I know what behavior (bugs) I am experiencing, and for you to sit there and claim otherwise is ignorant and rude.

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[Squall-Leonhart]

you can check the monitors ui and see if you can disable DDC from there.

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Originally Posted by Hatorijr

attempting to even compare xp to vista/windows 7 is retarded, plain and simple. xp is old as dirt now, and needs to be shown the door imho.

since installing vista i rarely touch xp and i will get 7 when released. also unless using latest version of 7, its not wise to claim it has a particular bug unless its also reported in the final release build :/.

shown the door?? they should of never created vista s*** should of been canned before it was released its absolutley the worse OS Ive seen to date I rather go back to win 95 before I use that crap vista.I had less crashing and compatability problems with win 3.1 then vista

Which leads me to my question the base setup for windows 7 is it like a twin of xp,vista or an entirely different system?? cause if its anything like vista I will be very disappointed.

My bad gamefreak didnt see your post before I posted this lol.

[Lord Zedeck]

It's much more similar to Windows Vista than it is Windows XP.

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[cloudstrife3733]

Originally Posted by Lord Zedeck

It's much more similar to Windows Vista than it is Windows XP.

poor microsoft they'll learn someday.

[Squall-Leonhart]

except it works out of the box.

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Originally Posted by Squall-Leonhart

except it works out of the box.

If its like vista youll be lucky if it works in the computer not just outta the box.

[Spyhop]

Originally Posted by Squall-Leonhart

except it works out of the box.

Because there's a lot of Vista support now. 7, being similar, can capitalize on many Vista drivers.

Vista didn't have that luxury.

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^He is right here and that wasn't vista's fault.

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"Vista" isn't an entity, it is what MS made it: POS.

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A person would have to be pretty retarded to not understand what i said there.

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[gamefreak94]

I understood it

Just saying it sounds weird.

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[Squall-Leonhart]

Originally Posted by strike105x

^He is right here and that wasn't vista's fault.

Uh, yeah actually it was. Microsoft released the OS at a point where none of the hardware vendors actually considered it ready. Thats why practically nobody had drivers for it... especially so since they weren't exactly handed an RC build to build drivers on.

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[Spyhop]

BS. I was using Vista RCs long before the OS was actually released. Vendors had pleanty of time.

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[Squall-Leonhart]

Originally Posted by Spyhop

BS. I was using Vista RCs long before the OS was actually released. Vendors had pleanty of time.

Nvidia and ATI were kept out of the loop then, because the last build they had was one of the 5900 Beta builds.

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[Dennemark]

Tried ReForce ?

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