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[Squall-Leonhart]

and how many of us actually remove the updates?

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[Matis]

Exactly what I meant. The only reason it COULD be useful is if there were some kind of compatibility problem or some security problem actually caused by an update. Both of those kinds of things actually get fixed later by another update from Microsoft themselves, making the "feature" useless.

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[P_RePTiLe]

I don't use updates *shudders* i use the latest-at-the-date-of-compiling-installation-disc and then lives by the "if it ain't broken - for me.."-philosophy

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[runawayprisoner]

I think I mentioned this somewhere, but oh well.

XP SP2. 500MBytes after housing .NET Frameworks and DirectX updates. Otherwise 300MBytes initially.

If you have time, spend some hours on vLite and nLite. It makes a difference.

I got a 2GB Vista install before.

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[Squall-Leonhart]

hosing .net and directx makes windows extremely crippled and useless.

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[S.SubZero]

Originally Posted by Squall-Leonhart

shiznits.

well someone might make a tool
seriously theres no reason that windows should keep updated files from wndows updates...

Compcln is a specific tool for Vista SP2 to remove the original RTM/SP1 files. Why would Windows 7 have this? There haven't been any service packs for Windows 7 yet.

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[Squall-Leonhart]

wrong :P

Service Pack 1 beta's are being leaked already.

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[gamefreak94]

I suggest a re-install.....something isn't right here. My Win 7 x64 RC is only 11.9GB.

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[S.SubZero]

Originally Posted by Squall-Leonhart

wrong :P

Service Pack 1 beta's are being leaked already.

No they aren't. Wzor got a build with a "Service Pack 1" in the description and nothing else. The builds still move along as usual, and that moniker disappeared soon after. For all anyone knows it could have been an internal joke, a typo, or wishful thinking.

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[Squall-Leonhart]

Lol, noob.

the Service Pack 1 branch has already started, the leak was legit.

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[P_RePTiLe]

Originally Posted by Squall-Leonhart

hosing .net and directx makes windows extremely crippled and useless.

There is a difference between "hosing" and "housing" - which was the phrase he used

And though directx might be quite needed (for many things)
.net is not that vital, and win is far from useless without it, i can count two small things that have required .net for me.
but everything depends on what you use your system for after all.

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My Windows 7 (7100) 64-bit folder is 11.1GB-11.2GB right now, and this is just about right after a clean install (system restore and indexing are disabled).

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[Squall-Leonhart]

Originally Posted by P_RePTiLe

There is a difference between "hosing" and "housing" - which was the phrase he used

And though directx might be quite needed (for many things)
.net is not that vital, and win is far from useless without it, i can count two small things that have required .net for me.
but everything depends on what you use your system for after all.

everything requires .net these days

from DVD players, to hardware monitors. >.>

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[P_RePTiLe]

Originally Posted by Squall-Leonhart

everything requires .net these days

from DVD players, to hardware monitors. >.>

Well, the question was if it is useless, i know very good dvd-player-software (which is quite simple) that does not need .net.
mplayer or media player classic for one - though the first can be bothersome without a win-gui part.

And the same goes for hardware-monitors

I would not call a system useless without .net

But yes, let's just disagree and be kind to the topic.

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[Squall-Leonhart]

nhancer, requires .net
paint.net (duh)
DirectX Tweaker (.net 1.1)
nvidia's drivers (requires parts of .net)
...theres more i just don't feel like hunting through all my install files to find them.

not to mention that, having installed .net you usually dn't need to go searching for missing VC runtime (msvc7 is installed by dot net 1.0 sp3)

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[Haithm]

I agree with Squall-Leonhart regarding MS .Net Framework.

Many things require MS .Net Framework. I got annoyed by it because it makes my comp buggy but then I Uninstalled it. I decided to look for many alternatives because many apps I use uses .NET. I gave up and decided to do good search for the latest packages of .NET. I Have found Microsoft .NET Framework 3.5 Service Pack 1 (For x86 and x64) in one Offline package.

URL: http://download.microsoft.com/downlo...dotnetfx35.exe

The I have found its updates which makes it nearly perfect. They are named probably. They are not just weird numbers.
NDP20SP2-KB958481-x86.exe
NDP30SP2-KB958483-x86.exe
NDP35SP1-KB958484-x86.exe
OR
NDP20SP2-KB958481-x64.exe
NDP30SP2-KB958483-x64.exe
NDP35SP1-KB958484-x64.exe
After Installing the main MS .NET Framework 3.5 SP1, install these updates. The updates should be installed in a sorted sequence by the lowest number to the highest number.
x86 URL: Download details: Microsoft .NET Framework 3.5 Family Update for Windows XP x86, and Windows Server 2003 x86

x64 URL: Download details: Microsoft .NET Framework 3.5 Family Update for Windows XP x64, and Windows Server 2003 x64
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I did a Windows XP reinstall then I installed all of then It worked like a charm and never bugs my OS.

[Squall-Leonhart]

.net 3.5.1 is part of Windows 7.

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[runawayprisoner]

.NET is an annoyance to say the least. It is required because many developers are now coding based on the frameworks to make their jobs easier. And admittedly, some graphical user elements and some system-level controls can be done quite easily with what the frameworks provide...

But the annoyance is that the frameworks itself adds a couple of megs (quite a couple of megs) and when you have like one or two apps (at about 3-4 megs each) that actually specifically ask for the frameworks, it's a large waste of space.

Then again, I don't really have much time myself to research and code everything so I'll have to make do with it until there's a window in my time frame that allows me to do something else.

Here's wishing that good ol' C++ or ASM would find their ways back someday... or at least that they don't have to require an entire frameworks just to execute 4 megs of codes in the future.

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[Squall-Leonhart]

i'd rather if msft had developed 3.5 in the first place :P

its much quicker then 3.0 and 2.0 D:

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[P_RePTiLe]

Originally Posted by Squall-Leonhart

nhancer, requires .net
paint.net (duh)
DirectX Tweaker (.net 1.1)
nvidia's drivers (requires parts of .net)
...theres more i just don't feel like hunting through all my install files to find them.

not to mention that, having installed .net you usually dn't need to go searching for missing VC runtime (msvc7 is installed by dot net 1.0 sp3)

As i said, the computer would not be "crippled" without those things, i don't use them and it does not feel crippled.

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