No$Gba great improvement with overclock

Demi Fiend · January 22nd, 2008, 23:35

Hi. I have overclocked all my stuff here and No$Gba is running 100% full speed now with NDS2xGL2, MSN and Internet Explorer opened and Anti Virus on. It's amazing ! So far I have tested FF3 and FF12.
Now I'm seeing from what No$Gba is made of. Great emulator!!

See the Signature for overclock details

ronnyron99 · January 23rd, 2008, 00:40

wow! you are smmmmmoooookkkkin!

gnrathon · January 23rd, 2008, 00:57

How do you do this tell me NOW!!!

DrGreenThumb · January 23rd, 2008, 01:00

You should be able to clock even higher

I have similar cpy p4 630 stock 3gz running @ 3.6ghz , but people have had it over 4ghz! my ram doesnt like it any higher

try these ram loose ram timings 3-4-4-8 and you should be able to get higher then 3.41

And keep in mind p4 throttle when they go over 70*c

You dont wanna go higher then 65*c max at load

Get everest ultimate edition to check your temps ,usefull program for other stuff to

menelaou · January 23rd, 2008, 01:59

I have a 2.4ghz core 2 quad core a 8800 gt and 4 gigs of ram. It still lags a tiny bit if i use the opengl but it still runs quit well. I think it shouldent lag, maybe its the emulator not using all 4 of my cores. He should put that in the next update. But the other renderer works very nicely on zelda, it just laggs when there are 6+ enemies and lots of fire animation going at once. If someone thinks it shouldent then reply and tell me what im doing wrong. thanks

**SCHUMI_4EVER** · January 23rd, 2008, 06:47

Unless you have more than adequate cooling an overclock should never be attempted.

Great for you that it's helped, but it should never be given as advice as most people will not have adequate cooling in their PC's and if you don't know what you are doing and don't have adequate cooling then you can destory your entire system by attempting to overclock.

I am not reprimanding you, I am just informing the general public that this should not be seen as a solution to get the emu to run at better speeds.

As for the C2Q, no$gba does not have multi-core support so only one core is being used to run no$gba. This also can't simply be added as Martin (no$gba's author) does not have a multi-core system and is in fact using a fairly old single core. So this sitaution is unlikely to change in the future.

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Demi Fiend · January 23rd, 2008, 07:29

You're right Schumi, I forgot to tell that I'm doing overclocks by monitoring the System temperature all the time. And I did many tests, with/without overclock, and believe me, the system temperature is almost the same Just a slight raise, but most insignicant with the overs.
But anyway keep in mind monitoring your system when doing overclocks.

otaku99 · January 23rd, 2008, 12:11

Does this mean,overclock will help i play the games faster?For example : right now Advance Wars : DOS is played at 50 % or so,after overclock will it get faster?Just want to confirm
And i heard overclock reduce the comp's life? o_O

Last edited by otaku99; January 23rd, 2008 at 12:21..

**SCHUMI_4EVER** · January 23rd, 2008, 12:58

Did you read nothing of what I said? The mere fact that you are asking about overclocking means you should never even think of it EVER!

AN OVERCLOCK IS !!!NOT!!! RECOMMENDED FOR THE AVERAGE PC USER AS SERIOUS DAMAGE TO SOME OR ALL PC COMPONENTS COULD OCCUR !!!

In other words unless you have a fair deal of experience about the internal workings of a PC don't even think about overclocking EVER !!! (especially not for something as trivial as a handheld emulator)

I seriously can't stress this enough...

__________________

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The Champ has retired but may his Legacy live on FOREVER !!!!

No$GBA DS FAQ 2.0

Get it right fools! The glass is HALF-EMPTY, not half-full!!!

!!! WARNING: Emulation requires a brain !!! WARNING: Emulation =/= Piracy !!!

Last edited by SCHUMI_4EVER; January 23rd, 2008 at 13:15..

otaku99 · January 23rd, 2008, 13:02

ok lol.Calm down,man.I only wanted to confirm once again.

**SCHUMI_4EVER** · January 23rd, 2008, 13:09

Ok.

I am emphasising it this much not only for your sake but for anyone else that thinks this is a quick-fix deal to perfect speed.

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The Champ has retired but may his Legacy live on FOREVER !!!!

No$GBA DS FAQ 2.0

Get it right fools! The glass is HALF-EMPTY, not half-full!!!

!!! WARNING: Emulation requires a brain !!! WARNING: Emulation =/= Piracy !!!

ozzgx4 · January 23rd, 2008, 19:17

just get a new computer with better specs if your concerned about your emulation speed. like schumi said, over clocking is not a idea for average pc users

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**SCHUMI_4EVER** · January 23rd, 2008, 19:36

Even an upgrade just for an emu is a stupid idea and a waste of money. Rather invest in more DS games.

If however you need to make an upgrade anyways for your PC gaming or work needs then go right ahead.

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The Champ has retired but may his Legacy live on FOREVER !!!!

No$GBA DS FAQ 2.0

Get it right fools! The glass is HALF-EMPTY, not half-full!!!

!!! WARNING: Emulation requires a brain !!! WARNING: Emulation =/= Piracy !!!

menelaou · January 24th, 2008, 03:21

OK, we have to start donating more so Martin can get a multicore and start putting support for it. If it will make it run faster it will make our lives so much better.

And does the no$gba use the graphics cards to render the 3d? If it doesn't even use our on board graphics then he should change it so it can. It would make every computer run the system a little faster.

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Intel core 2 quad q6600 2.4ghz.
Kingston ddr2 800mhz 4gb's.
Asus EN8800gt 512.
WD 160gb HDD.
Gigabyte P35-DS3P SLI.
And yet... the emulator still lags on zelda.

Last edited by menelaou; January 24th, 2008 at 03:23.. Reason: Grammar

RockmanForte · January 24th, 2008, 03:27

Sound good idea but why dont you buy Nintendo DS lite ?

menelaou · January 24th, 2008, 03:56

I have one, or else i wouldn't be able to play zelda

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Intel core 2 quad q6600 2.4ghz.
Kingston ddr2 800mhz 4gb's.
Asus EN8800gt 512.
WD 160gb HDD.
Gigabyte P35-DS3P SLI.
And yet... the emulator still lags on zelda.

zheero · January 24th, 2008, 13:08

i remembered this we have an arguement about overclocking with schumi lol

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mudlord · January 24th, 2008, 13:18

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OK, we have to start donating more so Martin can get a multicore and start putting support for it. If it will make it run faster it will make our lives so much better.

I'm pretty sure using multicore tech will go against Martin's philosophy's with the whole Nocash project. Sure, multithreading in ASM can happen, but I doubt Martin doing so, since he is more than happy with the technology he has, so why pressure people into doing things they don't want to do, or need to do? Plus, I'm amazed how optimized the emulator already is, so I don't mind if multithreading of the various different emulator components isnt added.

ronnyron99 · January 24th, 2008, 16:17

yes you is right, we have to be happy with what we have now, martin is just a one man army trying to get this emu up and running and we have to be patient as newer version come out.

January 22nd, 2008, 23:35	#1
Demi Fiend Banned Join Date: Mar 2007 Location: Brazil/Pindamonhangaba Posts: 2,817	No$Gba great improvement with overclock Hi. I have overclocked all my stuff here and No$Gba is running 100% full speed now with NDS2xGL2, MSN and Internet Explorer opened and Anti Virus on. It's amazing ! So far I have tested FF3 and FF12. Now I'm seeing from what No$Gba is made of. Great emulator!! See the Signature for overclock details

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January 23rd, 2008, 00:40	#2
ronnyron99 Registered User Join Date: Jan 2008 Location: South Carolina Posts: 14	wow! you are smmmmmoooookkkkin!

January 23rd, 2008, 00:57	#3
gnrathon EMULATION ROCKS MY SOCKS! Join Date: Jan 2008 Location: dumpster Posts: 122	How do you do this tell me NOW!!!

January 23rd, 2008, 01:00	#4
DrGreenThumb Banned Join Date: Jan 2008 Location: New Zealand Posts: 103	You should be able to clock even higher I have similar cpy p4 630 stock 3gz running @ 3.6ghz , but people have had it over 4ghz! my ram doesnt like it any higher try these ram loose ram timings 3-4-4-8 and you should be able to get higher then 3.41 And keep in mind p4 throttle when they go over 70c You dont wanna go higher then 65c max at load Get everest ultimate edition to check your temps ,usefull program for other stuff to

January 23rd, 2008, 01:59	#5
menelaou Registered User Join Date: Jan 2008 Location: In my room Posts: 11	I have a 2.4ghz core 2 quad core a 8800 gt and 4 gigs of ram. It still lags a tiny bit if i use the opengl but it still runs quit well. I think it shouldent lag, maybe its the emulator not using all 4 of my cores. He should put that in the next update. But the other renderer works very nicely on zelda, it just laggs when there are 6+ enemies and lots of fire animation going at once. If someone thinks it shouldent then reply and tell me what im doing wrong. thanks

January 23rd, 2008, 06:47	#6
SCHUMI_4EVER Hackin 'n Slashin Join Date: Jan 2007 Location: Most-expensive-Internet-on-the-Planet Land : South Africa Posts: 26,660	Unless you have more than adequate cooling an overclock should never be attempted. Great for you that it's helped, but it should never be given as advice as most people will not have adequate cooling in their PC's and if you don't know what you are doing and don't have adequate cooling then you can destory your entire system by attempting to overclock. I am not reprimanding you, I am just informing the general public that this should not be seen as a solution to get the emu to run at better speeds. As for the C2Q, no$gba does not have multi-core support so only one core is being used to run no$gba. This also can't simply be added as Martin (no$gba's author) does not have a multi-core system and is in fact using a fairly old single core. So this sitaution is unlikely to change in the future. __________________ Intel Core2Quad Q9550 (2.83Ghz stock) \| ASUS P5Q \| 2x2GB Transcend JetRam DDR2-800 \| ASUS ENGTX260\HDTP\896M \| Windows Vista Home Premium 64bit SP1 The Champ has retired but may his Legacy live on FOREVER !!!! No$GBA DS FAQ 2.0 Get it right fools! The glass is HALF-EMPTY, not half-full!!! !!! WARNING: Emulation requires a brain !!! WARNING: Emulation =/= Piracy !!!

January 23rd, 2008, 07:29	#7
Demi Fiend Banned Join Date: Mar 2007 Location: Brazil/Pindamonhangaba Posts: 2,817	You're right Schumi, I forgot to tell that I'm doing overclocks by monitoring the System temperature all the time. And I did many tests, with/without overclock, and believe me, the system temperature is almost the same Just a slight raise, but most insignicant with the overs. But anyway keep in mind monitoring your system when doing overclocks.

January 23rd, 2008, 12:11	#8
otaku99 Registered User Join Date: Jan 2008 Location: Underworld Posts: 20	Does this mean,overclock will help i play the games faster?For example : right now Advance Wars : DOS is played at 50 % or so,after overclock will it get faster?Just want to confirm And i heard overclock reduce the comp's life? o_O Last edited by otaku99; January 23rd, 2008 at 12:21..

January 23rd, 2008, 12:58	#9
SCHUMI_4EVER Hackin 'n Slashin Join Date: Jan 2007 Location: Most-expensive-Internet-on-the-Planet Land : South Africa Posts: 26,660	Did you read nothing of what I said? The mere fact that you are asking about overclocking means you should never even think of it EVER! AN OVERCLOCK IS !!!NOT!!! RECOMMENDED FOR THE AVERAGE PC USER AS SERIOUS DAMAGE TO SOME OR ALL PC COMPONENTS COULD OCCUR !!! In other words unless you have a fair deal of experience about the internal workings of a PC don't even think about overclocking EVER !!! (especially not for something as trivial as a handheld emulator) I seriously can't stress this enough... __________________ Intel Core2Quad Q9550 (2.83Ghz stock) \| ASUS P5Q \| 2x2GB Transcend JetRam DDR2-800 \| ASUS ENGTX260\HDTP\896M \| Windows Vista Home Premium 64bit SP1 The Champ has retired but may his Legacy live on FOREVER !!!! No$GBA DS FAQ 2.0 Get it right fools! The glass is HALF-EMPTY, not half-full!!! !!! WARNING: Emulation requires a brain !!! WARNING: Emulation =/= Piracy !!! Last edited by SCHUMI_4EVER; January 23rd, 2008 at 13:15..

January 23rd, 2008, 13:02	#10
otaku99 Registered User Join Date: Jan 2008 Location: Underworld Posts: 20	ok lol.Calm down,man.I only wanted to confirm once again.

January 23rd, 2008, 13:09	#11
SCHUMI_4EVER Hackin 'n Slashin Join Date: Jan 2007 Location: Most-expensive-Internet-on-the-Planet Land : South Africa Posts: 26,660	Ok. I am emphasising it this much not only for your sake but for anyone else that thinks this is a quick-fix deal to perfect speed. __________________ Intel Core2Quad Q9550 (2.83Ghz stock) \| ASUS P5Q \| 2x2GB Transcend JetRam DDR2-800 \| ASUS ENGTX260\HDTP\896M \| Windows Vista Home Premium 64bit SP1 The Champ has retired but may his Legacy live on FOREVER !!!! No$GBA DS FAQ 2.0 Get it right fools! The glass is HALF-EMPTY, not half-full!!! !!! WARNING: Emulation requires a brain !!! WARNING: Emulation =/= Piracy !!!

January 23rd, 2008, 19:17	#12
ozzgx4 Registered User Join Date: May 2007 Location: London Posts: 6,866	just get a new computer with better specs if your concerned about your emulation speed. like schumi said, over clocking is not a idea for average pc users __________________ http://ozzgx4.deviantart.com/ When you were born you were crying and everyone around you was smiling, make it through life so that when you die you will be smiling and everyone around you will be crying.

January 23rd, 2008, 19:36	#13
SCHUMI_4EVER Hackin 'n Slashin Join Date: Jan 2007 Location: Most-expensive-Internet-on-the-Planet Land : South Africa Posts: 26,660	Even an upgrade just for an emu is a stupid idea and a waste of money. Rather invest in more DS games. If however you need to make an upgrade anyways for your PC gaming or work needs then go right ahead. __________________ Intel Core2Quad Q9550 (2.83Ghz stock) \| ASUS P5Q \| 2x2GB Transcend JetRam DDR2-800 \| ASUS ENGTX260\HDTP\896M \| Windows Vista Home Premium 64bit SP1 The Champ has retired but may his Legacy live on FOREVER !!!! No$GBA DS FAQ 2.0 Get it right fools! The glass is HALF-EMPTY, not half-full!!! !!! WARNING: Emulation requires a brain !!! WARNING: Emulation =/= Piracy !!!

January 24th, 2008, 03:21	#14
menelaou Registered User Join Date: Jan 2008 Location: In my room Posts: 11	OK, we have to start donating more so Martin can get a multicore and start putting support for it. If it will make it run faster it will make our lives so much better. And does the no$gba use the graphics cards to render the 3d? If it doesn't even use our on board graphics then he should change it so it can. It would make every computer run the system a little faster. __________________ Intel core 2 quad q6600 2.4ghz. Kingston ddr2 800mhz 4gb's. Asus EN8800gt 512. WD 160gb HDD. Gigabyte P35-DS3P SLI. And yet... the emulator still lags on zelda. Last edited by menelaou; January 24th, 2008 at 03:23.. Reason: Grammar

January 24th, 2008, 03:27	#15
RockmanForte Rockman fan Join Date: May 2002 Location: Earth! Posts: 5,285	Sound good idea but why dont you buy Nintendo DS lite ?

January 24th, 2008, 03:56	#16
menelaou Registered User Join Date: Jan 2008 Location: In my room Posts: 11	I have one, or else i wouldn't be able to play zelda __________________ Intel core 2 quad q6600 2.4ghz. Kingston ddr2 800mhz 4gb's. Asus EN8800gt 512. WD 160gb HDD. Gigabyte P35-DS3P SLI. And yet... the emulator still lags on zelda.

January 24th, 2008, 13:08	#17
zheero so-called-spongebob Join Date: Nov 2006 Location: Bikini Bottom Posts: 79	i remembered this we have an arguement about overclocking with schumi lol __________________ To be or not To be. That is the answer. ^'~zheero~'^

January 24th, 2008, 16:17	#19
ronnyron99 Registered User Join Date: Jan 2008 Location: South Carolina Posts: 14	yes you is right, we have to be happy with what we have now, martin is just a one man army trying to get this emu up and running and we have to be patient as newer version come out.