Shenmue I and II emulated perfectly with NullDC, great job!! - Page 2

Dreakon13 · February 5th, 2008, 20:40

On mine, at least in Shenmue I, can't remember about II, Ryo is always transparent (its fine in cutscenes though). It's not just close-up. I've played through all of Shenmue I and II on Dreamcast and Xbox respectively and I don't remember that being an issue.

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Devil Master · February 5th, 2008, 20:44

Quote:

Originally Posted by Dreakon13

On mine, at least in Shenmue I, can't remember about II, Ryo is always transparent (its fine in cutscenes though).

And what video plugin are you using?

Dreakon13 · February 5th, 2008, 21:26

nullPVR, the Jan 10 2008 version I was discussing earlier in the thread. Though it did it with pretty much all of the older versions and the Chankast plugin as well.

Actually, I should say that indoors the transparency seems to work right. But running around Dobuita or just about any town/outdoor area makes him transparent 100% of the time.

Observe:

Simply standing there, I don't think he is supposed to be transparent. Though again, indoors and in cutscenes seem to be fine.

Note:
I'm not complaining by any means, the game is more than playable and I greatly appreciate the work put into the emulator.

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NamesSolidSnake · February 5th, 2008, 23:09

Something I figured out about the transparency issue is that it only happens where there is sunlight, because everything's fine when it is at night or when in a home or store.

Aha! Must be the sun that Nulldc hates!

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indecisive985 · February 6th, 2008, 00:59

If this gets fixed I'd be SOOOO happy. Still, it's great.

BTW, extra geometry mode works for widescreen resolutions. Better than stretching!

Samor · February 6th, 2008, 19:48

Ryo's ghost =P

AFAIK on the real consoles he only goes transparent when he blocks the vision in small rooms/areas/corners.

Devil Master · February 9th, 2008, 16:53

Quote:

Originally Posted by NamesSolidSnake

Something I figured out about the transparency issue is that it only happens where there is sunlight, because everything's fine when it is at night or when in a home or store.

Aha! Must be the sun that Nulldc hates!

I noticed that too. More precisely, the darker a part of Ryo's body is supposed to be, the more transparent it is. If Ryo's back (which is what the camera shows) faces the sun, the model is completely opaque.
In the opposite case, the model is transparent.

Neo187 · February 9th, 2008, 17:42

yeah that's really the only major glitch in Shenmue I, ryo is see-thru but only during the day. Tried messing up with the configs in many ways but that really wont go away. Another very annoying bug is at the harbour in Disc 3, the ground would disappear showing Ryo and people walking on the sea....very annoying... but hopefully this will be sorted in the next version!!

Shenmue 2 on the other hand works as a charm, none of these bugs affect it...

Luzifer · February 10th, 2008, 15:20

Yeah for the first time I have complete Shenmue I on a Emulator,
thats great and thank you for the settings,
but yes many graphic bugs anymore when I am play but looks more nicer and playable as before..

In the Cutscenes the game is perfect with a little bug in Ryo's hair... -.-
And no good graphic Filter, most of the objects are to low in the game,
yes it comes from the programmers but with a good graphic filter looks better, I think...
The sky is very very pixelated too....
And in the motorbike scene with Ryo and Nozomi give absolut no sound...

Hope in the next version from nullDC gives a better graphic and sound Support..
Was good to play that game again after many years and that without original Hardware...

Here Pics... (klick on the pic when the site is finished load to see the full resolution)

Mathos2 · February 13th, 2008, 09:31

Thanks a lot for this Emulator. Unfortunately I never owned a DC, but I love this Game. For me its not that bad, that the character is transparent. What really sucks are sometimes the transparent walls. Is there anything one could do about this issue?

edit
Thx Snake.

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**3x3cUt0r** · February 13th, 2008, 17:44

Mathos2, READ THE RULES, don't ask for roms, isos, chds or bios. You need to dump 'em yourself.

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**Cid Highwind** · February 13th, 2008, 19:25

Luzifer, thanks for your images!

The reason why it looks a bit dated perhaps is because back then we didn't have any bloom effects, and I wonder if the DC could do such effects. Shenmue 2 already has a lot better lighting as well. The reason why the sky is very pixellated in Shenmue 1 is because it's a 2d image, so no filtering or processing done on it, so it looks kinda terrible when stretched. In Shenmue 2 the sky is done in 3d, well, it's rendered as a texture, meaning that when stretched it will only become blurry.

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NamesSolidSnake · February 13th, 2008, 19:39

For Shenmue 1, I ALWAYS use ChankaPVR.

Try it, it works best in Shenmue!

And Mathos, I know where to get the images, don't worry.

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Rebrov · February 16th, 2008, 20:33

Thanks for da help. When I use this configs i have this problem:

Any idea??

NamesSolidSnake · February 16th, 2008, 20:51

Can you post your system specs?

Also, please close ALL other windows in the backround (except for the DOS screen, you need that) and close any Antiviruses while playing the game.

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Rebrov · February 16th, 2008, 21:35

My sistem specs are not good as yours, sure thing. You people have great PC's!! (as i can see on your signatures...).

Ok:

AMD Athlon 64
Sempron 2800
1.6 ghz
512 MB Ram
GeForce 6200 256 mb
Windows XP Pro SP2

But the fact is I can solve this problem changing the audio plugin to ELSEMIS. But the sound is very poor...

Actually i can play Shenmue (I), Soul Calibur and Ikaruga, at normal speed.

I just wanted to know what's this problem about...

NamesSolidSnake · February 16th, 2008, 21:41

You can play shenmue 1 at normal speed?

Well, that's odd... Did you try other options in the settings?

Maybe you need to try enabling or disabling options for the nullAICA plugin.

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Last edited by NamesSolidSnake; February 16th, 2008 at 21:43.. Reason: Automerged Doublepost

Rebrov · February 16th, 2008, 21:50

Well...is not like PERFECT SPEED, but i can play Shenmue 1 almost like the one i played on dreamcast a few years ago (with some graphics issues of course...). It plays very good. Thanks to the creators of this emulator, i dont know how you did it, but its great.

As I said if I change the sound plugin there is no error, but the NullDC plugin sound is the best, i want to play the game whit this plugin. What's the "cpliped mxl.-" thing means?

NamesSolidSnake · February 16th, 2008, 22:32

Try changing the nullAICA options (not the ACTUAL sound plugin)

And I don't know what that message means :/

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Neo187 · February 17th, 2008, 00:24

Rebrov I get the exact same thing but that happens ONLY during that very first cut scene and another similiar one at the 3rd cd when a new location is introduced, apart from that the game runs very well with NullAICA, with only little crackling of the sound in a few big spaces... i've tried them all and NullAICA is really the best, it's the only one that reproduces everything... Elsemi only reproduces dialogue and some backgorund effects but not background music (which is too beautiful to be missed)....

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February 5th, 2008, 20:40	#21
Dreakon13 Registered User Join Date: Jan 2003 Posts: 75	On mine, at least in Shenmue I, can't remember about II, Ryo is always transparent (its fine in cutscenes though). It's not just close-up. I've played through all of Shenmue I and II on Dreamcast and Xbox respectively and I don't remember that being an issue. __________________ "As long as you don't get your hopes up, you can take anything... You feel less pain." *- Squall Lionheart*

February 5th, 2008, 21:26	#23
Dreakon13 Registered User Join Date: Jan 2003 Posts: 75	nullPVR, the Jan 10 2008 version I was discussing earlier in the thread. Though it did it with pretty much all of the older versions and the Chankast plugin as well. Actually, I should say that indoors the transparency seems to work right. But running around Dobuita or just about any town/outdoor area makes him transparent 100% of the time. Observe: Simply standing there, I don't think he is supposed to be transparent. Though again, indoors and in cutscenes seem to be fine. Note: I'm not complaining by any means, the game is more than playable and I greatly appreciate the work put into the emulator. __________________ "As long as you don't get your hopes up, you can take anything... You feel less pain." *- Squall Lionheart*

February 5th, 2008, 23:09	#24
NamesSolidSnake nullDC Join Date: Dec 2007 Location: California Posts: 645	Something I figured out about the transparency issue is that it only happens where there is sunlight, because everything's fine when it is at night or when in a home or store. Aha! Must be the sun that Nulldc hates! __________________

February 6th, 2008, 00:59	#25
indecisive985 Registered User Join Date: Jan 2007 Location: US Posts: 104	If this gets fixed I'd be SOOOO happy. Still, it's great. BTW, extra geometry mode works for widescreen resolutions. Better than stretching!

February 6th, 2008, 19:48	#26
Samor crill stazy Join Date: Apr 2005 Location: NL Posts: 7,609	Ryo's ghost =P AFAIK on the real consoles he only goes transparent when he blocks the vision in small rooms/areas/corners.

February 9th, 2008, 17:42	#28
Neo187 Registered User Join Date: Jan 2008 Location: Ireland Posts: 27	yeah that's really the only major glitch in Shenmue I, ryo is see-thru but only during the day. Tried messing up with the configs in many ways but that really wont go away. Another very annoying bug is at the harbour in Disc 3, the ground would disappear showing Ryo and people walking on the sea....very annoying... but hopefully this will be sorted in the next version!! Shenmue 2 on the other hand works as a charm, none of these bugs affect it...

February 10th, 2008, 15:20	#29
Luzifer Sopor Aeternus Join Date: Jan 2005 Location: Germany Posts: 48	Yeah for the first time I have complete Shenmue I on a Emulator, thats great and thank you for the settings, but yes many graphic bugs anymore when I am play but looks more nicer and playable as before.. In the Cutscenes the game is perfect with a little bug in Ryo's hair... -.- And no good graphic Filter, most of the objects are to low in the game, yes it comes from the programmers but with a good graphic filter looks better, I think... The sky is very very pixelated too.... And in the motorbike scene with Ryo and Nozomi give absolut no sound... Hope in the next version from nullDC gives a better graphic and sound Support.. Was good to play that game again after many years and that without original Hardware... Here Pics... (klick on the pic when the site is finished load to see the full resolution)

February 13th, 2008, 09:31	#30
Mathos2 Registered User Join Date: Feb 2008 Location: Germany Posts: 4	Thanks a lot for this Emulator. Unfortunately I never owned a DC, but I love this Game. For me its not that bad, that the character is transparent. What really sucks are sometimes the transparent walls. Is there anything one could do about this issue? edit Thx Snake. Last edited by Mathos2; February 13th, 2008 at 20:47..

February 13th, 2008, 17:44	#31
3x3cUt0r EX-Administrator Join Date: May 2001 Location: San Andres, Colombia Posts: 1,117	Mathos2, READ THE RULES, don't ask for roms, isos, chds or bios. You need to dump 'em yourself. __________________

February 13th, 2008, 19:25	#32
Cid Highwind The Hunter Join Date: Oct 2002 Location: NL Posts: 15,877	Luzifer, thanks for your images! The reason why it looks a bit dated perhaps is because back then we didn't have any bloom effects, and I wonder if the DC could do such effects. Shenmue 2 already has a lot better lighting as well. The reason why the sky is very pixellated in Shenmue 1 is because it's a 2d image, so no filtering or processing done on it, so it looks kinda terrible when stretched. In Shenmue 2 the sky is done in 3d, well, it's rendered as a texture, meaning that when stretched it will only become blurry. __________________ PC Specs: CPU: Intel Q8200 @ 2.8GHz // GPU: Sapphire ATi HD5870 1GB // Mobo: Gigabyte EP35-DS3 RAM: 4GB Kingston HyperX DDR2 1066 // HDD: 1TB Samsung Spinpoint // SPU: Creative X-Fi Xtreme Music PSU: Hiper Type-R 580W // Monitor: Iiyama B2403WS / 19201200 Join the NGEmu Folding @ Home community NOW!*

February 13th, 2008, 19:39	#33
NamesSolidSnake nullDC Join Date: Dec 2007 Location: California Posts: 645	For Shenmue 1, I ALWAYS use ChankaPVR. Try it, it works best in Shenmue! And Mathos, I know where to get the images, don't worry. __________________

February 16th, 2008, 20:33	#34
Rebrov Registered User Join Date: Feb 2008 Location: Argentina Posts: 5	Thanks for da help. When I use this configs i have this problem: Any idea??

February 16th, 2008, 20:51	#35
NamesSolidSnake nullDC Join Date: Dec 2007 Location: California Posts: 645	Can you post your system specs? Also, please close ALL other windows in the backround (except for the DOS screen, you need that) and close any Antiviruses while playing the game. __________________

February 16th, 2008, 21:35	#36
Rebrov Registered User Join Date: Feb 2008 Location: Argentina Posts: 5	My sistem specs are not good as yours, sure thing. You people have great PC's!! (as i can see on your signatures...). Ok: AMD Athlon 64 Sempron 2800 1.6 ghz 512 MB Ram GeForce 6200 256 mb Windows XP Pro SP2 But the fact is I can solve this problem changing the audio plugin to ELSEMIS. But the sound is very poor... Actually i can play Shenmue (I), Soul Calibur and Ikaruga, at normal speed. I just wanted to know what's this problem about...

February 16th, 2008, 21:41	#37
NamesSolidSnake nullDC Join Date: Dec 2007 Location: California Posts: 645	You can play shenmue 1 at normal speed? Well, that's odd... Did you try other options in the settings? Maybe you need to try enabling or disabling options for the nullAICA plugin. __________________ Last edited by NamesSolidSnake; February 16th, 2008 at 21:43.. Reason: Automerged Doublepost

February 16th, 2008, 21:50	#38
Rebrov Registered User Join Date: Feb 2008 Location: Argentina Posts: 5	Well...is not like PERFECT SPEED, but i can play Shenmue 1 almost like the one i played on dreamcast a few years ago (with some graphics issues of course...). It plays very good. Thanks to the creators of this emulator, i dont know how you did it, but its great. As I said if I change the sound plugin there is no error, but the NullDC plugin sound is the best, i want to play the game whit this plugin. What's the "cpliped mxl.-" thing means?

February 16th, 2008, 22:32	#39
NamesSolidSnake nullDC Join Date: Dec 2007 Location: California Posts: 645	Try changing the nullAICA options (not the ACTUAL sound plugin) And I don't know what that message means :/ __________________

February 17th, 2008, 00:24	#40
Neo187 Registered User Join Date: Jan 2008 Location: Ireland Posts: 27	Rebrov I get the exact same thing but that happens ONLY during that very first cut scene and another similiar one at the 3rd cd when a new location is introduced, apart from that the game runs very well with NullAICA, with only little crackling of the sound in a few big spaces... i've tried them all and NullAICA is really the best, it's the only one that reproduces everything... Elsemi only reproduces dialogue and some backgorund effects but not background music (which is too beautiful to be missed).... Last edited by Neo187; February 17th, 2008 at 00:31..