Pcsx2 CPU performance higher Ghz or larger L2 cache ?

[strike101]

if i get to choose from a

Intel C2D E4300 2MB L2cache that's guaranteed to reach 3.0Ghz
vs
Intel C2D E6550 4MB runs at default 2.3Ghz

of couse both packages cost about the same cause the overclocked E4300 gets a more expensive motherboard and 3rd party cooler

So which would perform faster on PCSX2 ? higher clockrate or larger L2 cache , i know on some PC games that L2 cache really help and performance between those two should be about the same

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[Barius]

If the price is the same, I would go with the E6xxx. Those CPUs have more than just a larger cache, they also have a faster bus speed. You can overclock most C2Ds to 3.0Ghz pretty easily so that's not an issue.

EDIT: is there a reason you can't overclock the E6550? If so, then as RPGW1ZaRD says, buy the E4300. Though, a better solution would be to buy one that allows you to overclock the E6550.

[RPGW1ZaRD]

3.0GHz 2MB beats 2.33GHz 4MB l2 cache in PCSX2 quite noticably but I'm sure L2 cache helps a bit but nowhere to such levels as 2MB extra L2 cache would respond to 677MHz extra clock speed. That would make it more L2 cache dependant than any application I know of.

Barius> I think his point is that E4300 is cheaper where he lives and that if he picks that he could afford an expensier mobo and cooler while if he picks E6550 he might have to pick a very cheap mobo and cooler (or stock cooling). After a quick check E4300 is like 50€ cheaper than E6550. But yea basicly any Core 2 Duo usually overclocks to 3GHz without much effort needed (even on stock cooler).

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[Hackers89cool]

i recomend u buy intel E6xxxx series with its more fast than e4xxxx...L2 cache is not important..seriously ...

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[jusTiC3]

Originally Posted by Hackers89cool

i recomend u buy intel E6xxxx series with its more fast than e4xxxx...L2 cache is not important..seriously ...

who said this? sources?

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[UPTOYOU]

i think that L2 cache is important to PCSX2

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[Luptatorul]

i thinks maybe is time for a new windows release, because in the last few months i am reading the same old stuff, about cpu performance, overclocking, new technology,on an 1 year old 0.9.2 and the same old game bugs over and over again. the forum is getting boring.
sorry guys

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[Assasin]

Have right,Luptatorul it`s boring to looking day after day in to the news page and forums,seeing same posts like:Speed increase in 0.9.4?,X game playable on 0.9.4,What is the performance in 0.9.4??

New release will change this,new screenshots,more happy users,more problems with runing...and NO MORE questions about year old 0.9.2 and upcoming releases...

Hey team,make your fans/users happy!!

[emwearz]

Releases will be made when there ready, they take time, and this one is a fairly big one. If you look through the compatibility list for 0.9.4 you will know this, as well as 64bit builds. Of course it will take time, there normal people with real lives ,etc. Don't be disrespectful.

And when a new release comes, the same old questions will be asked, be sure of that, even in early versions when games ran at 2fps, there were still the same old questions about compatibility, computer specs, why is it slow, what about the next version, etc. Its just part of the scene and it will more than likely go on when 0.9.4 is released.

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[mitchpoodisko]

the e6550 will overclock past 3ghz if you can afford a good motherboard, ram and heatsink

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[Stevethegreat]

^^....and you can do the aforementioned avoiding the hassle of buying half a grand worth hardware just by doing so in an E4300. The 333FSB Core 2 Duo are big a fat flop, I recommend to everyone who's serious on overclocking to avoid them as hell, they're the good ol' Core 2 Duo's with lower multipliers and higher FSBs, the 333FSB is a joke for Core 2 duos anyway so we don't need Intel to sync their CPUs at such speeds.

So, in two words, avoid the E6x50 series as hell they have low multiplier and you'll struggle to succeed high overclocks, stick with the good old 266FSB CPUs or better to the 200FSB ones (E4xxx series) and then manually raise the FSB, you don't have to give half a grand to equipment so that Intel do this for you, do it yourself and spend your 500 bucks on better things......

E4300>>>>>E6550 in every way conceivable, the 2MB cache is less of a problem on this case (albeit it generally IS a problem).

[Gilgamesh83]

It's because the lower bus speeds in e4300 that makes it an excellent overclocker. Since it got 800mhz bus speed it can get a bigger percentage in gain and with lower power to the mb. I have mine at 1333mhz from 800mhz with 1.36v in mb and 1.35v to the cpu. If one is to have the fsbs on the cpu higher that 1400 one must use a higher mb voltage like 1.5v. The gain is a staggering 67% over the old one and if I where to have a cpu with 1066mhz in bus speeds that increase to 1333mhz would be smaller.

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[RPGW1ZaRD]

E6x50 isn't a bad choise, in fact overclockers gladly choose them due to the G0 stepping which seems to have lower heat dissipation. It's only people with cheap RAM and motherboards that intend to overclock as far as possible that should stay away from E6550, otherwise I don't see the issue, 500 FSB is rather easy achievement today with D9 micron ram and Intel P35 chipset boards.

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[Stevethegreat]

E4500: $145
A 40 buck cheap mobo
2GB 60 buck cheap sticks of RAM
11 x 333FSB, voila went up to 3630MHz with 250 buck equipment

on the other hand
E6550: $180
A cheapish P35 mobo $130
strong air cooling 60$
Micron D9 memory $150
7x500 FSB, 3.5GHz with $520.

Twice the money for lower clock, higher FSB, higher L2 cache and about the same performance. I don't think so, except if you like bragging about your high FSB and its utility in the 2% of the programs.

[sims]

Go with the e4300.

Look at the screenshot thread and you'll see several e6600 @ 3.2ghz owners having worst performance than my e4300 @ 3.15ghz.

[dutchMasta]

Yeah, if you've got a low budget, go for the e4300. You might not even have to get that good a mobo, but if you plan on updating when Penryn comes out, might as well. I got a E6600 and like sims said, even at a higher clock, I'm not getting that much better speeds, sometimes worse, than some of the E4x00 users out there. Try get a good cooler though, like Tuniq Tower 120, if you can find it.

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[fried_egg]

They're discontinuing the e4300 in favor of the e4400 by the way.

[Gilgamesh83]

the e4500 is the best choice now as one can get 3665mhz with a simple 800mhz->1333mhz fsb oc.

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[Thunderhit]

Stop talking nonsense! No one can OC that beyond 3,5 Ghz without problems and just increasing the fsb is not as easy as it sounds, btw. your signature is really disgusting...

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[Barracudo]

Originally Posted by Thunderhit

Stop talking nonsense! No one can OC that beyond 3,5 Ghz without problems and just increasing the fsb is not as easy as it sounds, btw. your signature is really disgusting...

I'm easily overclocking my Pentium D (2.8 GHz) to 3.64 Ghz only by increasing the FSB. It's stable and on stock cooling.

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