Jack Thompson Says FL Bar Official Demanded He Take Psych Test, Accept Suspension

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Jack Thompson Says FL Bar Official Demanded He Take Psych Test, Accept Suspension

An official of the Florida Bar proposed late last week that controversial Miami attorney Jack Thompson submit to psychological testing and accept a 91-day suspension of his law license, according to an e-mail GamePolitics received from Thompson himself. The claim has not been verified by the Florida Bar, which did not respond to our request for comment.
As GP has previously reported, Thompson is currently embroiled in a pair of federal lawsuits against the Bar (see Florida Bar Gives Jack Thompson a Wedgie Over Bully Case). The Bar has moved to hold a disciplinary hearing against Thompson based on several complaints about the anti-game attorney’s professional conduct, including video game cases involving Grand Theft Auto and Bully. A scheduled June 25th hearing was postponed. Meanwhile, mediation talks have taken place between Thompson and the Bar.
On Sunday Thompson cc’d GP an e-mail of what appears to be a filing with the Florida Supreme Court, which has jurisdiction over Bar disciplinary matters. In it Thompson writes of an ongoing attempt to mediate the dispute:

Mediation failed today because there was no mediation whatsoever… [Florida Bar official] Ms. Tuma not only did not move off her [suspension] demand one iota, not one smidgeon, but she instead upped her demand by requiring that Thompson undergo a battery of psychological tests as part of the fabulous deal The Bar offered him…
Ms. Tuma [sic] last demand going into the mediation was a 91-day suspension, and she opened and ended with that and a shrink’s couch. This is bad faith…
This “mediation” was a charade… Finally, [Thompson] requests a status conference herein as soon as possible so that we can… shut this Star Chamber down. Thompson is not the one who needs a psych evaluation.

This would not be Thompson’s first brush with Bar-ordered psych testing. As he writes in his 2005 book, Out of Harm’s Way, in the early 90’s the Bar compelled him to undergo such an examination. Thompson reports that he passed and subsequently sued the Bar, settling for $20,000 in monetary damages.
GamePolitics readers can view the Florida Bar complaints related to Thompson’s GTA case and Bully case.

I hope it ends well for everyone except Jack.

[The Magic Hobo]

They should do the humain thing and shoot him, save more time it would

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[jonc2006]

"Thompson is not the one who needs a psych evaluation. "

oh yes thompson does need a psych evaluation. anyone who addresses themselves in third-person needs their head checked.

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[ElijahTW]

BigIg hopes he loses his license to practice law.. in all states... and countries... and for future proofing, worlds and universes aswell.

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Originally Posted by BigIg

...and for future proofing, worlds and universes aswell.

This detail is very very important.

[ready2rumbelX]

....aside from Thompson's crazy antics, and his questionable behavior (....don't kill me! ), he does...at least.....raise some interesting points.

Games are getting quite real, in the sense of how accurate alot of aspects are (physics, textures, models...etc)...all adding to that sense of realism.

......just search and check 'Manhunt 2'....i've read some of the sick sh!t you can do in that game, and it seems a little beyond necessary or advisable to partake in (....cold blooded murder in gruesome ways, rape etc).

I love my games, but is it ABSOLUTELY necessary to have me, as the player, to shoot a woman and rape her, or visa versa, in a game?

.......r2rX

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[jonc2006]

you can rape people in that game? ok maybe that is a little out of line. i was never intrested in that game anyway but if they rated it AO it shouldnt be blacklisted because of it.

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[Hyuga]

Hmmm, I found the first Manhunt pretty boring and lost interest in it. I'm not interested in the sequel either. But I think that Postal was more violent and all anyway and can't remember JT rumbling about it.

[Player-X]

He does act like the game industry is forcefully making people to sit down and play their games against their wills.

[jonc2006]

Originally Posted by Hyuga

But I think that Postal was more violent and all anyway and can't remember JT rumbling about it.

thompson attacks games that have "connections" to real life incidents, not just random violent games, which is why he stands out amoungst all the other game violence crackheads. doom and columbine, halo and the dc snipers, counter strike and vt, gta and god knows how many cases. thats why you havnt seen him directly attack postal, no one has tried to connect it to something yet. yet being a keyword there, it wouldnt surprise me if someone went off and tried to.

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[Yeloazndevil]

thats what the damn old man gets!

[skoreanime]

He had this a long time coming .

[ready2rumbelX]

Look, i'm not trying to imply that some of his behavior and reasoning has been (or come off) as a bit ridiculous and out-of-line, but there is a genuine concern behind it.

Aside from benefit of doubt that those who expose themselves to sensitive material are mentally and 'spiritually' balanced, there is always content that is exposed to those who can't handle it (yet), so it's merely looking out for them too. But there are limits....and compromises that have to be met......but not so bloody extreme....

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Aside from benefit of doubt that those who expose themselves to sensitive material are mentally and 'spiritually' balanced, there is always content that is exposed to those who can't handle it (yet), so it's merely looking out for them too. But there are limits....and compromises that have to be met......but not so bloody extreme....

Other than the thing about the US constution saying "Congress shall make no law respecting an establishment of religion, or prohibiting the free exercise thereof; or abridging the freedom of speech, or of the press; or the right of the people peaceably to assemble, and to petition the Government for a redress of grievances." there is also the issue of what's can be considered "unacceptable" or "damaging" and there is quite a split in the scientific community about weather videogames will make a kid a looney or a world famous neurosurgen, there are also existing rating systems for videogame.

Basically most moral panics and lawsuits involves parents who fail to read labels buy videogames that are clearly rated for adults for their ten year old kids and then proceed to sue the videogame company when they find the kid playing as a burly albino man who kills monsters by ripping their guts out and chocking them to death with it or better known as "poor parenting"

[jonc2006]

Originally Posted by Player-X

Other than the thing about the US constution saying "Congress shall make no law respecting an establishment of religion, or prohibiting the free exercise thereof; or abridging the freedom of speech, or of the press; or the right of the people peaceably to assemble, and to petition the Government for a redress of grievances." there is also the issue of what's can be considered "unacceptable" or "damaging" and there is quite a split in the scientific community about weather videogames will make a kid a looney or a world famous neurosurgen, there are also existing rating systems for videogame.

Basically most moral panics and lawsuits involves parents who fail to read labels buy videogames that are clearly rated for adults for their ten year old kids and then proceed to sue the videogame company when they find the kid playing as a burly albino man who kills monsters by ripping their guts out and chocking them to death with it or better known as "poor parenting"

there is another factor in this too, its that video games are constantly being grouped together with the term "children", meaning that only children play games. and because of that, people who are outside of the gaming community see these adult content games and then say that they are being marketed to children. thompson trys to make that point all the time and its complete bull**** imo.

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[ready2rumbelX]

Look, it's very foolish for people, nowadays, to relate video games (on any platform) solely to children....I think everyone is past that now.

But, the only thing to note is this:

1.) A game rated AO is not impossible for a child to get his/her hands on if they really wanted to. Perhaps not from any retailer, but it's possible.

2.) And due to that fact, if the content was seriously twizted () and confuses the crap out of them, then the damage is done.

....but at the same time, i've been a youngling and watched/played CRAPLOADS of stuff that was out of my age class.....I think I turned out okay.

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[jonc2006]

Originally Posted by ready2rumbelX

2.) And due to that fact, if the content was seriously twizted () and confuses the crap out of them, then the damage is done.

....but at the same time, i've been a youngling and watched/played CRAPLOADS of stuff that was out of my age class.....I think I turned out okay.

r2rX

the kids who go out and shoot people up and use games as a scapegoat are already prone to act out in violence. games or whatever other form of media cant create that sort of person, that personality type was already there. otherwise we would be seeing millions of extremely violent incidents instead of only handfuls.

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Originally Posted by ready2rumbelX

Look, it's very foolish for people, nowadays, to relate video games (on any platform) solely to children....I think everyone is past that now.

I don't think so, as Jonc said people still fall for kids who use videogames as a scapegoat and I think you are seriously underestimating the foolishness of people.

Originally Posted by ready2rumbelX

1.) A game rated AO is not impossible for a child to get his/her hands on if they really wanted to. Perhaps not from any retailer, but it's possible.

I know and from what I understand the problem comes from parents that don't check what they are buying for their kids and then later goes on an adventure in the legal system trying to get money out of the game companies.

Originally Posted by ready2rumbelX

2.) And due to that fact, if the content was seriously twizted () and confuses the crap out of them, then the damage is done.

The data is quite inconclusive on that but for the most part the ones who are confused tend to have much bigger problem than just videogames.

Originally Posted by ready2rumbelX

....but at the same time, i've been a youngling and watched/played CRAPLOADS of stuff that was out of my age class.....I think I turned out okay.

That reminds me of what the predecessors of today's "cultural crusaders" said about the printing press, comic books, music, movies and even at one point the waltz.

[jonc2006]

i wish frank zappa was still around. if anyone could put up a flawless argument against censorship concerning all media types, it would be him.

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[cowfez]

**** yeah! That Mother knew his stuff.
The truly crazy thing is that Jack Thompson has supporters. Whether he ends up being disbarred or not, he represents a large demographic that is not going away any time soon.