Another "building new comp" thread

ShadowDancer · January 3rd, 2007, 01:39

I'm building this new comp and I need suggestion on what type of memory I should get on it. I'm not an overclocker but I might try it out in the future. How much should I get as well? Is 2 GB more than enough? What about my video card and everything else, is there any bottlenecking going on? What about the power supply, is it good for my system? CPU Fan as well... good?

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Motherboard: ASUS P5W DH DELUXE/WIFI-AP Socket T (LGA 775) Intel 975X ATX Intel Motherboard - Retail
$224.99

Videocard: SAPPHIRE 100186L Radeon X1950XT 256MB GDDR3 PCI Express x16 HDCP Video Card - Retail
$249.99

Powersupply: HIPER HPU-4B580-MS ATX12V v2.2 580W Power Supply - Retail
$89.99

Processor: Intel Core 2 Duo E6400 Conroe 2.13GHz LGA 775 Processor Model BX80557E6400 - Retail
$223.00

Harddrive: Seagate Barracuda 7200.10 (Perpendicular Recording) ST3320620A 320GB 7200 RPM IDE Ultra ATA100 Hard Drive - OEM
$94.99

CPU Fan: ZALMAN CNPS9500 LED 92mm 2 Ball Cooling Fan with Heatsink - Retail
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~$1070

tuanming · January 3rd, 2007, 01:53

You can save more $$$ if you go with my recommendation

. P5B Deluxe is as good as P5W DH Deluxe. For rams, the good ones (2gigs DDR2 800) cost from $220 to $300+.

$184 cpu Newegg.com - Intel Core 2 Duo E6300 1.86GHz LGA 775 Processor - Retail

$179 OEM E6300 ClubIT Product - Intel Core 2 Duo E6300 Conroe 1.86GHz 2MB L2 LGA775 Processor OEM HH80557PH0362M

$180 motherboard Newegg.com - ASUS P5B Deluxe ATX Intel Motherboard - Retail

$160 graphic card Newegg.com - SAPPHIRE Radeon X1900GT 100189L VIVO HDCP Video Card - Retail

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**Cid Highwind** · January 3rd, 2007, 02:14

Don't get that X1900GT as it is a gimped version of what it used to be. Read an article at Anandtech or Tomshardware saying they cut down on the core speed from somewhere near 600, to 512, when they were phasing out the 1900GT. A 1950Pro would be a safer bet. Also, the following article is interesting if you wonder on getting a 256 or 512mb card/

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Excalibur · January 3rd, 2007, 02:25

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Originally Posted by Cid Highwind

Don't get that X1900GT as it is a gimped version of what it used to be. Read an article at Anandtech or Tomshardware saying they cut down on the core speed from somewhere near 600, to 512, when they were phasing out the 1900GT. A 1950Pro would be a safer bet. Also, the following article is interesting if you wonder on getting a 256 or 512mb card/

Exactly

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tuanming · January 3rd, 2007, 03:16

LOL you guys makes me laugh...Isn't it obvious that when playing games at high resolution need more memory? the 256mb failed from 1600X1200 to 2048X1536 resolutions. Beside, not many ppl have a 21+ in monitor. Also you need a big @ss screen just to play at 2048x1536...

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**fivefeet8** · January 3rd, 2007, 04:25

Quote:

Originally Posted by Cid Highwind

Don't get that X1900GT as it is a gimped version of what it used to be. Read an article at Anandtech or Tomshardware saying they cut down on the core speed from somewhere near 600, to 512, when they were phasing out the 1900GT. A 1950Pro would be a safer bet. Also, the following article is interesting if you wonder on getting a 256 or 512mb card/

That article only tested a 7800gt 256 meg to a 7800gt 512 meg. There isn't much real world perfomance difference between the different memory configurations until you start using very large textures with high levels of AA and high resolutions.

Some games that are coming out do require 512 meg cards to run at higher texture levels though. Some tests around the web have also shown that 256 meg cards do have a limit and will sometimes fail to run at certain HD resolutions and AA/AF. For the most part though, if you're limited to 1280x1024 or even 1600x1200, the different memory sizes won't make much difference to you in most games.

Personally though, I'd rather get a 512 meg card since there will be more and more games requiring it for higher level graphics.

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makotech222 · January 3rd, 2007, 04:53

wait another month i think for big price cut in conroes.

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Smooth Criminal · January 3rd, 2007, 13:29

Quote:

Originally Posted by ShadowDancer

I'm building this new comp and I need suggestion on what type of memory I should get on it. I'm not an overclocker but I might try it out in the future. How much should I get as well? Is 2 GB more than enough? What about my video card and everything else, is there any bottlenecking going on? What about the power supply, is it good for my system? CPU Fan as well... good?

Case: Antec Nine Hundred Black Steel ATX Mid Tower Computer Case - Retail
$134.99

Motherboard: ASUS P5W DH DELUXE/WIFI-AP Socket T (LGA 775) Intel 975X ATX Intel Motherboard - Retail
$224.99

Videocard: SAPPHIRE 100186L Radeon X1950XT 256MB GDDR3 PCI Express x16 HDCP Video Card - Retail
$249.99

Powersupply: HIPER HPU-4B580-MS ATX12V v2.2 580W Power Supply - Retail
$89.99

Processor: Intel Core 2 Duo E6400 Conroe 2.13GHz LGA 775 Processor Model BX80557E6400 - Retail
$223.00

Harddrive: Seagate Barracuda 7200.10 (Perpendicular Recording) ST3320620A 320GB 7200 RPM IDE Ultra ATA100 Hard Drive - OEM
$94.99

CPU Fan: ZALMAN CNPS9500 LED 92mm 2 Ball Cooling Fan with Heatsink - Retail
$53.99

~$1070

here is my opinion
1.good
2.great
3.go get a diffrent card as refraction reccomended
4.all other things are great

and wait for a month or two till then intel will cut its concore prices by 40%>>i am also going to buy my new one at that time<<

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tuanming · January 3rd, 2007, 14:33

Beside, playing at a smaller resolution will get you better fps in your games. Also, most/some people might even still have a 15'in monitor so i think a lots people played their game at 1280x1024 is their norm

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ShadowDancer · January 3rd, 2007, 22:14

Ok suggestions noted. I'll get the CPU and video card later (a month or two from now) just to see if the prices go down or something new comes along.

**RPGW1ZaRD** · January 3rd, 2007, 22:47

I say wait for some midranged DX10 card to appear such as 8600GT that will surely cost $250 or less in case you planned to keep the system for a while. I'm pretty sure these will arrive within 2 months.

If you're into overclocking (I'd really think it would be worth considering it this time), as Conroe E4300 will appear in January and will be slightly cheaper than E6300 even but for overclocking this CPU will even be better suited. More info why here (<- also contains some basic important-to-understand info before buying or attempting to overclocking a computer).

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January 3rd, 2007, 01:39	#1
ShadowDancer Heh... Join Date: Jun 2001 Location: Texas Posts: 1,904	Another "building new comp" thread I'm building this new comp and I need suggestion on what type of memory I should get on it. I'm not an overclocker but I might try it out in the future. How much should I get as well? Is 2 GB more than enough? What about my video card and everything else, is there any bottlenecking going on? What about the power supply, is it good for my system? CPU Fan as well... good? Case: Antec Nine Hundred Black Steel ATX Mid Tower Computer Case - Retail $134.99 Motherboard: ASUS P5W DH DELUXE/WIFI-AP Socket T (LGA 775) Intel 975X ATX Intel Motherboard - Retail $224.99 Videocard: SAPPHIRE 100186L Radeon X1950XT 256MB GDDR3 PCI Express x16 HDCP Video Card - Retail $249.99 Powersupply: HIPER HPU-4B580-MS ATX12V v2.2 580W Power Supply - Retail $89.99 Processor: Intel Core 2 Duo E6400 Conroe 2.13GHz LGA 775 Processor Model BX80557E6400 - Retail $223.00 Harddrive: Seagate Barracuda 7200.10 (Perpendicular Recording) ST3320620A 320GB 7200 RPM IDE Ultra ATA100 Hard Drive - OEM $94.99 CPU Fan: ZALMAN CNPS9500 LED 92mm 2 Ball Cooling Fan with Heatsink - Retail $53.99 ~$1070

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January 3rd, 2007, 01:53	#2
tuanming Final Fantasy XXX Join Date: Feb 2006 Location: USA, TX Posts: 2,413	You can save more $$$ if you go with my recommendation . P5B Deluxe is as good as P5W DH Deluxe. For rams, the good ones (2gigs DDR2 800) cost from $220 to $300+. $184 cpu Newegg.com - Intel Core 2 Duo E6300 1.86GHz LGA 775 Processor - Retail $179 OEM E6300 ClubIT Product - Intel Core 2 Duo E6300 Conroe 1.86GHz 2MB L2 LGA775 Processor OEM HH80557PH0362M $180 motherboard Newegg.com - ASUS P5B Deluxe ATX Intel Motherboard - Retail $160 graphic card Newegg.com - SAPPHIRE Radeon X1900GT 100189L VIVO HDCP Video Card - Retail __________________ Intel Core2Duo E6300 1.86Ghz L629A244 @ 3.78GHz Asus P5K-E Wifi/AP Rev.1.02g Thermalright Ultra Extreme 120+ FM121 (110 cfm fan) ATI x1900 GT Rev.2 256mb 513/657 G.Skill 2x1gb Hz--540MHz CORSAIR CMPSU-1000HX 1000W

January 3rd, 2007, 02:14	#3
Cid Highwind The Hunter Join Date: Oct 2002 Location: NL Posts: 15,877	Don't get that X1900GT as it is a gimped version of what it used to be. Read an article at Anandtech or Tomshardware saying they cut down on the core speed from somewhere near 600, to 512, when they were phasing out the 1900GT. A 1950Pro would be a safer bet. Also, the following article is interesting if you wonder on getting a 256 or 512mb card/ __________________ PC Specs: CPU: Intel Q8200 @ 2.8GHz // GPU: Sapphire ATi HD5870 1GB // Mobo: Gigabyte EP35-DS3 RAM: 4GB Kingston HyperX DDR2 1066 // HDD: 1TB Samsung Spinpoint // SPU: Creative X-Fi Xtreme Music PSU: Hiper Type-R 580W // Monitor: Iiyama B2403WS / 19201200 Join the NGEmu Folding @ Home community NOW!*

January 3rd, 2007, 03:16	#5
tuanming Final Fantasy XXX Join Date: Feb 2006 Location: USA, TX Posts: 2,413	LOL you guys makes me laugh...Isn't it obvious that when playing games at high resolution need more memory? the 256mb failed from 1600X1200 to 2048X1536 resolutions. Beside, not many ppl have a 21+ in monitor. Also you need a big @ss screen just to play at 2048x1536... __________________ Intel Core2Duo E6300 1.86Ghz L629A244 @ 3.78GHz Asus P5K-E Wifi/AP Rev.1.02g Thermalright Ultra Extreme 120+ FM121 (110 cfm fan) ATI x1900 GT Rev.2 256mb 513/657 G.Skill 2x1gb Hz--540MHz CORSAIR CMPSU-1000HX 1000W

January 3rd, 2007, 04:53	#7
makotech222 The one and only Join Date: Apr 2004 Location: Chicago Illinois Posts: 3,609	wait another month i think for big price cut in conroes. __________________ Desktop: [Windows 7 x64][Asus P8P67 Deluxe][Intel i5 2500k @4.4ghz][EVGA GTX 570][Corsair DDR3 8gb] [Corsair 550w][Viewsonic 23inch 120hz 1680x1050 Display] Lenovo X200Tablet: [Windows 7 x64][L9400 @1.86ghz][Intel GMA 4500MHD][2gb Ram][160GB 7200rpm][LED-lit Touchscreen/pen-abled]

January 3rd, 2007, 14:33	#9
tuanming Final Fantasy XXX Join Date: Feb 2006 Location: USA, TX Posts: 2,413	Beside, playing at a smaller resolution will get you better fps in your games. Also, most/some people might even still have a 15'in monitor so i think a lots people played their game at 1280x1024 is their norm __________________ Intel Core2Duo E6300 1.86Ghz L629A244 @ 3.78GHz Asus P5K-E Wifi/AP Rev.1.02g Thermalright Ultra Extreme 120+ FM121 (110 cfm fan) ATI x1900 GT Rev.2 256mb 513/657 G.Skill 2x1gb Hz--540MHz CORSAIR CMPSU-1000HX 1000W

January 3rd, 2007, 22:14	#10
ShadowDancer Heh... Join Date: Jun 2001 Location: Texas Posts: 1,904	Ok suggestions noted. I'll get the CPU and video card later (a month or two from now) just to see if the prices go down or something new comes along.

January 3rd, 2007, 22:47	#11
RPGW1ZaRD PCSX2 & O/C Addict Join Date: Mar 2006 Location: My Computer Posts: 2,841	I say wait for some midranged DX10 card to appear such as 8600GT that will surely cost $250 or less in case you planned to keep the system for a while. I'm pretty sure these will arrive within 2 months. If you're into overclocking (I'd really think it would be worth considering it this time), as Conroe E4300 will appear in January and will be slightly cheaper than E6300 even but for overclocking this CPU will even be better suited. More info why here (<- also contains some basic important-to-understand info before buying or attempting to overclocking a computer). __________________ « Feel free to browse through PCSX2 screenshots on RPGWiZaRD's Putfile.com section » Intel® Core™2 Duo E8400 @ 4.0GHz «-» Gigabyte P35-DS4 «-» CellShock 2x1GB @ DDR2-1200 5-5-4-10 «-» JetWay 8800GT 512 MB @ 705/1750/1015 MHz «-» Thermaltake ToughPower 750W «-» Sony Multiscan G400 19" CRT «-» OCZ Vendetta 2 «-» Creative SoundBlaster Audigy «-» Logitech X-530 5.1 «-» Sennheiser HD 212 Pro «-» Logitech MX™518 Gaming-Grade «-» Razer Mantis Speed «-» Windows XP Pro SP3 «-» Windows Server 2k8 XSOS 3.0 BETA Last edited by RPGW1ZaRD; January 3rd, 2007 at 22:52..