VM version research why not working...

thc · December 9th, 2006, 10:49

I'm just curious as for myself VM version of pcsx2 works fine (however my friend was unable to use it due to spyware). If anybody is unable to use VM version due to "Unable to allocate blabla" message and is willing to cooperate...
a) don't expect instant or easy solution, this is more or less my curiosity, it may result in some hints what DLL is conflicting with PCSX2 on your rig or which program, however also in nothing
b) 64bit version is probably going to solve this problem

1) download process explorer
2) run PCSX2 VM version and let it running with that error message box
3) run process explorer
4) find PCSX2.exe in it's list and select it (just click on it)
5) ensure view->show lower pane view is checked
6) ensure view->lower pane pane view->DLLs is checked
7) right click on lower pane view column and click "Select Columns..."
8) check all options in dialog named "Select Columns" tab "DLL"
9) File->Save
10) Post resulting file here.

If You are going to identify this by Yourself then
PCSX2 refuses to start when some DLL is loaded in this space 0x18000000-0x58000000 and 0x77FF0000-0x78000000.

EDIT:
Please before posting here check You have XP SP2 and "Lock pages in memory priviledge" in Your account.
Control Panel->Administrative Tools->Local Security policy->Local Policies->User rights assignment->Lock Pages in memory. ensure Your current account has this right.

EDIT:
Include error message which You're getting in messagebox and console error message.

EDIT:
VM version requires SSE2 CPU. so check this also.... (Athlon XP doesn't have SSE2 instruction set, so VM will not run for You)

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Last edited by thc; January 26th, 2007 at 18:38..

meredito · December 9th, 2006, 11:53

I did it and no dll uses that space

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thc · December 9th, 2006, 12:06

Post result file I'll look at it if for example non-starndard DLL is injected.

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meredito · December 9th, 2006, 16:02

ok, here it is.

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pcsx2.exe.txt (7.3 KB, 234 views)

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8MB Ram
50MB HD

thc · December 9th, 2006, 17:29

Actually in your case it's
advapi32.dll API de base do Windows 32 avançada Microsoft Corporation 5.01.2600.2180 0x77F50000 0xAB000
coz these two memory ranges overlap.
0x77F50000 + 0xAB000 = 77FFB000
0x77FF0000-0x78000000 PCSX2
0x77F50000-0x77FFB000 advapi.dll

no help for this library as it gets loaded here for me too, it's probably OK (as the devs are using it), however I don't get loaded apphelp.dll which is forcing advapi.dll load higher. apphelp is used when You run program in compatibility mode with other windows....

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meredito · December 9th, 2006, 17:53

So there is nothing I can do about that? I'm not running any program in compatibilty mode.

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Trident 512kb
8MB Ram
50MB HD

thc · December 9th, 2006, 18:07

Are you sure about that ? It's in properties and third tab named compatiblity.

Otherwise there is no more You can do (except researching why You get loaded that DLL) devs could make another build with bit moved PS2MEM_BASE_ which in Your case will probably help.

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brain damage

meredito · December 9th, 2006, 18:10

yep, i'm sure. thanks for all this information tho, i'll google apphelp.dll

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Trident 512kb
8MB Ram
50MB HD

Dimens · December 10th, 2006, 10:53

Big thanks, thc! I've found that WinGroove driver get in that space. I've disabled this and PCSX2 VM now works!
Thanks!

Tchumas · December 10th, 2006, 22:31

Would you look at my result file? Thanks.
I'm using Windows XP Professional SP 2 Brazilian Portuguese Version, and VM version never worked for me.

Attached Files

pcsx2.exe.txt (7.2 KB, 51 views)

kch0pa · December 10th, 2006, 23:43

hey thc, can i change PS2MEM_BASE_ in the sourcecode? If yes please tell me where.

thc · December 11th, 2006, 06:38

memory.h header file.

Quote:

Originally Posted by Tchumas

Would you look at my result file? Thanks.
I'm using Windows XP Professional SP 2 Brazilian Portuguese Version, and VM version never worked for me.

OK allmost same thing as Meredito, I'll PM You solution working for him.

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Last edited by thc; December 11th, 2006 at 06:45.. Reason: Automerged Doublepost

kch0pa · December 11th, 2006, 14:46

Quote:

Originally Posted by thc

memory.h header file.

OK allmost same thing as Meredito, I'll PM You solution working for him.

What exactly should i change it too, i have that dll loading just like them, could you pm me a solution?

Thanks.

luizrd · December 12th, 2006, 01:08

in my case the advapi32.dll is allocated in 0x77ff0000 memory block............. why i alter this spece allocation?

look to my pcsx2.exe.txt file..........

sorry for my bad english..........

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pcsx2.exe.txt (7.1 KB, 30 views)

Fr6nk3nst31n · December 12th, 2006, 01:34

same thing here...
I am no expert, but, i guess that it might have something to do with the localized version o this or co-related dlls.
M$ is somewhat famous to screwup with localazed version of windows.

thc · December 12th, 2006, 07:25

Ok, just as a notice, SVN is not allowed here, solution If You are able to compile in VC2005, just change PS2MEM_BASE_ to 0x18100000 (this is probably true for brazilian windows). Actualy all what I'm sending by PM is link to customized build (1 char changed).

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E6600 @3600, P5W DH DLX, 2x 512 A-Data @800, 4-4-3-4, X1900XT
listening to Weird Al...
brain damage

franciscojsh · December 17th, 2006, 21:51

Any progress with win xp portuguese??? Cause pcsx 2 still no starting with VM version.

Smoky- · December 18th, 2006, 01:11

why not unloading dlls with:

Microsoft Windows XP - Regsvr32

?

thc · December 18th, 2006, 07:04

Quote:

Originally Posted by Smoky-

why not unloading dlls with:

Microsoft Windows XP - Regsvr32

?

Don't know where You get this idea, however program You mentioned is for something very different. registering and unregistering OLE/ActiveX/etc in short DLLs which provide some exported function.

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brain damage

esbornia · December 20th, 2006, 06:55

This is my file, Im having the same problem I guess

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pcsx2.exe.txt (8.3 KB, 32 views)

December 9th, 2006, 10:49	#1
thc Member © Join Date: Nov 2006 Location: Prague, CZ Posts: 691	VM version research why not working... I'm just curious as for myself VM version of pcsx2 works fine (however my friend was unable to use it due to spyware). If anybody is unable to use VM version due to "Unable to allocate blabla" message and is willing to cooperate... a) don't expect instant or easy solution, this is more or less my curiosity, it may result in some hints what DLL is conflicting with PCSX2 on your rig or which program, however also in nothing b) 64bit version is probably going to solve this problem 1) download process explorer 2) run PCSX2 VM version and let it running with that error message box 3) run process explorer 4) find PCSX2.exe in it's list and select it (just click on it) 5) ensure view->show lower pane view is checked 6) ensure view->lower pane pane view->DLLs is checked 7) right click on lower pane view column and click "Select Columns..." 8) check all options in dialog named "Select Columns" tab "DLL" 9) File->Save 10) Post resulting file here. If You are going to identify this by Yourself then PCSX2 refuses to start when some DLL is loaded in this space 0x18000000-0x58000000 and 0x77FF0000-0x78000000. EDIT: Please before posting here check You have XP SP2 and "Lock pages in memory priviledge" in Your account. Control Panel->Administrative Tools->Local Security policy->Local Policies->User rights assignment->Lock Pages in memory. ensure Your current account has this right. EDIT: Include error message which You're getting in messagebox and console error message. EDIT: VM version requires SSE2 CPU. so check this also.... (Athlon XP doesn't have SSE2 instruction set, so VM will not run for You) __________________ E6600 @3600, P5W DH DLX, 2x 512 A-Data @800, 4-4-3-4, X1900XT listening to Weird Al... brain damage Last edited by thc; January 26th, 2007 at 18:38..

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December 9th, 2006, 11:53	#2
meredito Registered User Join Date: Jul 2006 Location: brazil Posts: 31	I did it and no dll uses that space __________________ 486SX @ 66mhz Trident 512kb 8MB Ram 50MB HD

December 9th, 2006, 12:06	#3
thc Member © Join Date: Nov 2006 Location: Prague, CZ Posts: 691	Post result file I'll look at it if for example non-starndard DLL is injected. __________________ E6600 @3600, P5W DH DLX, 2x 512 A-Data @800, 4-4-3-4, X1900XT listening to Weird Al... brain damage

December 9th, 2006, 17:29	#5
thc Member © Join Date: Nov 2006 Location: Prague, CZ Posts: 691	Actually in your case it's advapi32.dll API de base do Windows 32 avançada Microsoft Corporation 5.01.2600.2180 0x77F50000 0xAB000 coz these two memory ranges overlap. 0x77F50000 + 0xAB000 = 77FFB000 0x77FF0000-0x78000000 PCSX2 0x77F50000-0x77FFB000 advapi.dll no help for this library as it gets loaded here for me too, it's probably OK (as the devs are using it), however I don't get loaded apphelp.dll which is forcing advapi.dll load higher. apphelp is used when You run program in compatibility mode with other windows.... __________________ E6600 @3600, P5W DH DLX, 2x 512 A-Data @800, 4-4-3-4, X1900XT listening to Weird Al... brain damage

December 9th, 2006, 17:53	#6
meredito Registered User Join Date: Jul 2006 Location: brazil Posts: 31	So there is nothing I can do about that? I'm not running any program in compatibilty mode. __________________ 486SX @ 66mhz Trident 512kb 8MB Ram 50MB HD

December 9th, 2006, 18:07	#7
thc Member © Join Date: Nov 2006 Location: Prague, CZ Posts: 691	Are you sure about that ? It's in properties and third tab named compatiblity. Otherwise there is no more You can do (except researching why You get loaded that DLL) devs could make another build with bit moved PS2MEM_BASE_ which in Your case will probably help. __________________ E6600 @3600, P5W DH DLX, 2x 512 A-Data @800, 4-4-3-4, X1900XT listening to Weird Al... brain damage

December 9th, 2006, 18:10	#8
meredito Registered User Join Date: Jul 2006 Location: brazil Posts: 31	yep, i'm sure. thanks for all this information tho, i'll google apphelp.dll __________________ 486SX @ 66mhz Trident 512kb 8MB Ram 50MB HD

December 10th, 2006, 10:53	#9
Dimens Bad English user Join Date: Apr 2006 Location: Russia Posts: 7	Big thanks, thc! I've found that WinGroove driver get in that space. I've disabled this and PCSX2 VM now works! Thanks!

December 10th, 2006, 23:43	#11
kch0pa Registered User Join Date: Dec 2006 Location: OTDrama.com Posts: 57	hey thc, can i change PS2MEM_BASE_ in the sourcecode? If yes please tell me where.

December 12th, 2006, 01:34	#15
Fr6nk3nst31n Registered User Join Date: Dec 2006 Location: Brazil Posts: 74	same thing here... I am no expert, but, i guess that it might have something to do with the localized version o this or co-related dlls. M$ is somewhat famous to screwup with localazed version of windows.

December 12th, 2006, 07:25	#16
thc Member © Join Date: Nov 2006 Location: Prague, CZ Posts: 691	Ok, just as a notice, SVN is not allowed here, solution If You are able to compile in VC2005, just change PS2MEM_BASE_ to 0x18100000 (this is probably true for brazilian windows). Actualy all what I'm sending by PM is link to customized build (1 char changed). __________________ E6600 @3600, P5W DH DLX, 2x 512 A-Data @800, 4-4-3-4, X1900XT listening to Weird Al... brain damage

December 17th, 2006, 21:51	#17
franciscojsh Registered User Join Date: Dec 2006 Location: Brasil Posts: 2	Any progress with win xp portuguese??? Cause pcsx 2 still no starting with VM version.

December 18th, 2006, 01:11	#18
Smoky- Registered User Join Date: Nov 2006 Location: Germany Posts: 48	why not unloading dlls with: Microsoft Windows XP - Regsvr32 ?