crazy disk swapping

Nightmare · November 23rd, 2001, 18:33

Everytimes i play those games like max payne or return to the castle wolfenstein, i will have a very serious disk swapping problem.

Mo matter what i do in the games, like walking, shooting, opening door, looking around with the camera,turning left, turning right, etc, i noticed that my hard disk will become very busy, seems like it was doing a very heavy disk swapping.

I suspect i set the setting to too high until my com cant support,but it seems not true,I have tried to set everything to minimun setting, like 640x480,16bit color, no fsaa, but still cant solve the problem. And i also noticed, my game was running more than 80 fps per second, but, when i turned left or right in the game, the fps will go down to 3 or so and the screen stopped for a while and the harddisk started to do its crazy disk swapping task ( i assume it was doing disk swapping) ..........

anyone know how to stop my hard disk from performing this crazy disk swapping every second every minute?

my spec :

Athlon 1.4 266 fsb
Elsa gladic gts pro 32 meg ( v22.83 ) ( i have also tried the v22.50, v22.88, v22.81 )
quantum fireball 4.2 gig ( probably running at 4800 rps )
msi k7t266 pro
Samsung 128 ddr ram

REBolt · November 23rd, 2001, 18:36

I think thats have to do with yor hard disk... do it a defragmentation...

I think... its justmy hint...

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Nightmare · November 23rd, 2001, 18:43

Quote:

Originally posted by REBolt
I think thats have to do with yor hard disk... do it a defragmentation...

I think... its justmy hint...

thanks for ur reply, but defragment the hard disk cant help......

Enigma1982 · November 23rd, 2001, 18:47

Never heard harddisk running at 4800 rps before
4300,5400,7200 that all I ever heard...............
This used to happen with me...........
Try to serch what program running in bg..........
When you found it then close it..........
Just another suggestion.................

**Bgnome** · November 23rd, 2001, 18:48

you wont believe the amount of help a defrag can be..
you might wanna try cleaning out your registry too

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Nightmare · November 23rd, 2001, 18:54

Quote:

Never heard harddisk running at 4800 rps before
4300,5400,7200 that all I ever heard...............

i guess mine is either 4300 or 5400.

Quote:

Originally posted by Bgnome
you wont believe the amount of help a defrag can be..
you might wanna try cleaning out your registry too

i did, i even reinstalled my window.

Btw, i am using win98 se.

Enigma1982 · November 23rd, 2001, 18:55

Final way out
Format your harddisk.................
And just install what program which you have to or really need to use it...............

REBolt · November 23rd, 2001, 19:03

Quote:

Originally posted by Nightmare

thanks for ur reply, but defragment the hard disk cant help......

oh i guess it will!!!

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Nightmare · November 23rd, 2001, 19:06

there is a command for use in system.ini, but i am not sure whether it is "ConservativesSwapfileUsage" or "ConservativeSwapfileUsage".

which one is correct???

Nightmare · November 23rd, 2001, 19:18

I am going to adjust my agp aperture size and set the ConservativeSwapfileUsage now.

Thanks for all ur helps. later.

eazye · November 23rd, 2001, 19:45

Do you have your pagefile(virtual memory set to a fixed rate or is it set at "let windows manage my VM settings setting thiis thing to a fixed rate REALLY HELPS believe me maybe not in your problen but when you do this you will for sure turn up better benchmark scores i think this will help in your situation because no matter how much ram you have windows uses the pagefile FOR LOTS of **** and when its getting used heavily its changing size lots so th HD is trying to do more than it should go to this settings if you dont know how (you sound like you know how ?)right click on my computer and go to properties and umm i cant remember in win 98its under the advanced tab in xp though

a good setting for any amount of ram is probely 250 and like bggnome said clean your registry and for god sakes defrag with norten speed disk not windows if you can

Nightmare · November 23rd, 2001, 20:01

Quote:

Originally posted by eazye
Do you have your pagefile(virtual memory set to a fixed rate or is it set at "let windows manage my VM settings setting thiis thing to a fixed rate REALLY HELPS believe me maybe not in your problen but when you do this you will for sure turn up better benchmark scores i think this will help in your situation because no matter how much ram you have windows uses the pagefile FOR LOTS of **** and when its getting used heavily its changing size lots so th HD is trying to do more than it should go to this settings if you dont know how (you sound like you know how ?)right click on my computer and go to properties and umm i cant remember in win 98its under the advanced tab in xp though a good setting for any amount of ram is probely 250 and like bggnome said clean your registry and for god sakes defrag with norten speed disk not windows if you can

i did set the swap file myself....... 320m min and 320m max... does not helps at all......

Btw, i have tried to set the conservativeswapfileusage to 1 and ajusted the setting in agp aperture size...but none of the mentined help to solve the probs.......blue screen even came out when i set the agp aperture size to 16 when loading return to the castle wolfenstein......

Any other suggestions?

eazye · November 23rd, 2001, 20:25

write zeros to the entire drive and start from scratch or get norton utilities and run WINDOCTOR then DISK DOCTORthen reg cleanup then speed disk use speed disk to Full optimization and let it go at it for hours (it takes this long with norten)or like i say if u dont got norten utilities back everything upt up and write zeros to it this is a low level format that erases EVERYTHING(partion tables boot records and the like ) if you dont know how to write zeros let me know i will help you out

Last edited by eazye; November 23rd, 2001 at 20:27..

Nightmare · November 23rd, 2001, 20:29

Quote:

Originally posted by eazye
write zeros to the entire drive and start from scratch or get norton utilities and run WINDOCTOR then DISK DOCTORthen reg cleanup then speed disk use speed disk to Full optimization and let it go at it for hours (it takes this long with norten)or like i say if u dont got norten utilities back everything upt up and write zeros to it this is a low level format that erases EVERYTHING if you dont know how to write zeros let me know i will help you uot

thanks for ur replies.

I have norton utilitiy 2001. I ran windoc, then sys doc, then speed dosk, then disk doc, then optimization wizard.

Well, helpless. And my hairs started to turn grey....then white....

eazye · November 23rd, 2001, 20:34

write zeros man ...its the only way out of some nasty hd probs and btw it WILL work if you do this just youll lose everything so back it up to cds if you got a burner i can send you the utility all you gotta do is put it on a floppy mount the floppy in dos mode and type gwscan then selct write zeros to entire drive and type in yes two times then it goes att er for an hour or 2 depending on your drive size (1hour 30 minutes for my 18 gigs) if you have no other options do this

Last edited by eazye; November 23rd, 2001 at 20:37..

Nightmare · November 23rd, 2001, 21:00

eazye, thanks for ur helps. I will try to borrow some ddr rams from my friends and see what happen before i do the low lvl format.

**Zephon** · November 24th, 2001, 12:02

I'm not sure, but it could be the windows cache settings. If you download a program called Cacheman, it can adjust the cache settings to a better one according to what you're using the computer for. You can get it here.
I'm not sure though if it will help.

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Nightmare · November 24th, 2001, 12:58

Quote:

Originally posted by Zephon
I'm not sure, but it could be the windows cache settings. If you download a program called Cacheman, it can adjust the cache settings to a better one according to what you're using the computer for. You can get it here.
I'm not sure though if it will help.

ok, thanx zephon.

I guess the crazy disk swapping problem occurs is because i dont have enogh rams. Before this, i allocated alot of rams ( about 40megs ) for cache, after i lowered down the cache, the games seems works better and cause less disk swapping, and also, take less times to load the games.So i guess the solution for me is to add more rams.....

Anyway, thax for all u guys' helps.

November 23rd, 2001, 18:33	#1
Nightmare ... Join Date: Aug 2001 Posts: 1,426	crazy disk swapping Everytimes i play those games like max payne or return to the castle wolfenstein, i will have a very serious disk swapping problem. Mo matter what i do in the games, like walking, shooting, opening door, looking around with the camera,turning left, turning right, etc, i noticed that my hard disk will become very busy, seems like it was doing a very heavy disk swapping. I suspect i set the setting to too high until my com cant support,but it seems not true,I have tried to set everything to minimun setting, like 640x480,16bit color, no fsaa, but still cant solve the problem. And i also noticed, my game was running more than 80 fps per second, but, when i turned left or right in the game, the fps will go down to 3 or so and the screen stopped for a while and the harddisk started to do its crazy disk swapping task ( i assume it was doing disk swapping) .......... anyone know how to stop my hard disk from performing this crazy disk swapping every second every minute? my spec : Athlon 1.4 266 fsb Elsa gladic gts pro 32 meg ( v22.83 ) ( i have also tried the v22.50, v22.88, v22.81 ) quantum fireball 4.2 gig ( probably running at 4800 rps ) msi k7t266 pro Samsung 128 ddr ram

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November 23rd, 2001, 18:36	#2
REBolt The Heir of the World Join Date: Oct 2001 Location: Oporto, Portugal.... I'm the Heir of the World but still the President of Shiori's FanClub... :) Posts: 371	I think thats have to do with yor hard disk... do it a defragmentation... I think... its justmy hint... __________________ Shiori's Fan Club President

November 23rd, 2001, 18:47	#4
Enigma1982 Do not Disturb Join Date: Jun 2001 Location: Bangkok,Thailand Posts: 1,808	Never heard harddisk running at 4800 rps before 4300,5400,7200 that all I ever heard............... This used to happen with me........... Try to serch what program running in bg.......... When you found it then close it.......... Just another suggestion.................

November 23rd, 2001, 18:48	#5
Bgnome Who Da Gnome? Join Date: Apr 2001 Location: At Home Posts: 2,441	you wont believe the amount of help a defrag can be.. you might wanna try cleaning out your registry too __________________ May the Gnome™ be With You

November 23rd, 2001, 18:55	#7
Enigma1982 Do not Disturb Join Date: Jun 2001 Location: Bangkok,Thailand Posts: 1,808	Final way out Format your harddisk................. And just install what program which you have to or really need to use it...............

November 23rd, 2001, 19:06	#9
Nightmare ... Join Date: Aug 2001 Posts: 1,426	there is a command for use in system.ini, but i am not sure whether it is "ConservativesSwapfileUsage" or "ConservativeSwapfileUsage". which one is correct???

November 23rd, 2001, 19:18	#10
Nightmare ... Join Date: Aug 2001 Posts: 1,426	I am going to adjust my agp aperture size and set the ConservativeSwapfileUsage now. Thanks for all ur helps. later.

November 23rd, 2001, 19:45	#11
eazye Banned Join Date: Nov 2001 Location: kanata Posts: 215	Do you have your pagefile(virtual memory set to a fixed rate or is it set at "let windows manage my VM settings setting thiis thing to a fixed rate REALLY HELPS believe me maybe not in your problen but when you do this you will for sure turn up better benchmark scores i think this will help in your situation because no matter how much ram you have windows uses the pagefile FOR LOTS of **** and when its getting used heavily its changing size lots so th HD is trying to do more than it should go to this settings if you dont know how (you sound like you know how ?)right click on my computer and go to properties and umm i cant remember in win 98its under the advanced tab in xp though a good setting for any amount of ram is probely 250 and like bggnome said clean your registry and for god sakes defrag with norten speed disk not windows if you can

November 23rd, 2001, 20:25	#13
eazye Banned Join Date: Nov 2001 Location: kanata Posts: 215	write zeros to the entire drive and start from scratch or get norton utilities and run WINDOCTOR then DISK DOCTORthen reg cleanup then speed disk use speed disk to Full optimization and let it go at it for hours (it takes this long with norten)or like i say if u dont got norten utilities back everything upt up and write zeros to it this is a low level format that erases EVERYTHING(partion tables boot records and the like ) if you dont know how to write zeros let me know i will help you out Last edited by eazye; November 23rd, 2001 at 20:27..

November 23rd, 2001, 20:34	#15
eazye Banned Join Date: Nov 2001 Location: kanata Posts: 215	write zeros man ...its the only way out of some nasty hd probs and btw it WILL work if you do this just youll lose everything so back it up to cds if you got a burner i can send you the utility all you gotta do is put it on a floppy mount the floppy in dos mode and type gwscan then selct write zeros to entire drive and type in yes two times then it goes att er for an hour or 2 depending on your drive size (1hour 30 minutes for my 18 gigs) if you have no other options do this Last edited by eazye; November 23rd, 2001 at 20:37..

November 23rd, 2001, 21:00	#16
Nightmare ... Join Date: Aug 2001 Posts: 1,426	eazye, thanks for ur helps. I will try to borrow some ddr rams from my friends and see what happen before i do the low lvl format.

November 24th, 2001, 12:02	#17
Zephon Key To The Universe Join Date: Jul 2001 Location: Stratosphere Posts: 2,712	I'm not sure, but it could be the windows cache settings. If you download a program called Cacheman, it can adjust the cache settings to a better one according to what you're using the computer for. You can get it here. I'm not sure though if it will help. __________________ But there is someone who remembers you Someone waiting for a sign that leads the way to you There is someone who will die for you Keep that in mind when the hope fails