Halo 2 only on Windows Vista....

RedLion · August 25th, 2006, 16:52

Great at last Bungie and Microsoft have decided to bring Pc players the Halo sequel.

A good new at first sight....

the bad new just behind is that Halo 2 will only turn on windows vista....:cuss2:
But what the F***???? Does Microsoft taking us for milky cows????

This is the first time for a game.so guys are u ready to change you old good xp O.S just to play a 2 years old (very good it's true) game??

Do you think they gonna do the same for Halo 3?

Metalmurphy · August 25th, 2006, 17:12

That is REALLY old news.

And it's not just Halo 2, since microsoft won't be releasing DX10 on XP its gonna be pretty much almost every game in 1 year time.

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Dogmaan · August 25th, 2006, 17:18

for the past 2 decades us gamers have supported microsoft by buying windows, microsoft have repaid our loyalty by moving 90% of microsoft entertainment franchises to the X-block.

Originally Halo was for the Apple Mac, then microsoft bought Bungie and changed the target platform to the x-box while telling us PC users it was coming out for the PC first (if you look back at old PC Gamer magazines you will see previews of the PC version way before the xbox version), this was a lie so that when the x-block came out, we had already bought into the Halo hype, and would run to the shops with our cash and buy an xbox and a copy of Halo.

I personally will never buy an xblock 360, unless the security is broken on them, because then microsoft will lose money on the xbox i buy, as i will NEVER buy an official game, not one.

Microsoft have repaid our loyalty by letting the PC gaming scene stagnate, and to put it simply, I HATE THEM.

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**Cid Highwind** · August 25th, 2006, 17:26

Then again I wonder how many of those "loyal" Microsoft Windows gamers have gotten that Windows Genuine Advantage message lately

Dogmaan, grow up. You're saying you'll buy the console simply because M$ will lose money on it. They aren't letting the PC gaming scene stagnate, they're trying to push it forward with DX10, even if that means dropping it for XP. I wonder though if DX10 would technically be possible to implement in XP.

Btw, pc gaming has stagnated years ago... all we see are WW2 shooters and RTS' and NFS', luckily there has been some improvement in the genres, but still it's all the same stuff with a different flavour.

ps. This should be in gaming discussion, is it really thát hard to see where a thread belongs?

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Metalmurphy · August 25th, 2006, 17:38

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Originally Posted by Cid Highwind

They aren't letting the PC gaming scene stagnate, they're trying to push it forward with DX10, even if that means dropping it for XP. I wonder though if DX10 would technically be possible to implement in XP.

Why wouldn't it?

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RedLion · August 25th, 2006, 17:50

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Dogmaan:Microsoft have repaid our loyalty by letting the PC gaming scene stagnate, and to put it simply, I HATE THEM

Hum.I don't think it's a good way hating them...they are sellers (powerful sellers).so they do what they want to do.

What I say is that they just a little taking us for fools.They could made two versions:
-a win xp version
-a vista version a little more functions enhanced.
(for a two years game I think it's largely possible knowing that Halo 2 won't need DX10 so Metalmurphy, I think you miss the point; I don't think the future DX SDK is the problem)

This is a ridiculous marketing strategy.I'm sure XP can make largely turn halo 2.

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**Kurbster** · August 25th, 2006, 18:01

http://www.gamevideos.com/video/id/5270

don't tell me that **** couldn't of been made using DX9. Microsoft is one big cash cow, but most people aren't that dumb to buy a buggy OS just for one game.

Oh well, enjoy your sword newbies

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GaveUpTomorrow · August 25th, 2006, 18:12

I personally never heard of Halo until after the commercials for Halo on the xbox came out, so I never knew it was supposed to be on apple/pc first. Weird. I have to say I don't really think the game is that great. As for a multi-player party game (connecting several xbox's together), it was pretty fun for a while. But, aside from that, I really saw nothing amazing...same with Halo 2. Therefore, you won't see me buying Vista for this game, or any game

That is just silly.

Metalmurphy · August 25th, 2006, 18:19

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Originally Posted by RedLion

-a vista version a little more functions enhanced.
(for a two years game I think it's largely possible knowing that Halo 2 won't need DX10 so Metalmurphy, I think you miss the point; I don't think the future DX SDK is the problem)

I think you missed MY point

What i meant was since DX10 won't be on XP it's not just Halo 2 that will MAKE you buy Vista but pretty much everygame in 1 year time.

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KillerShots · August 25th, 2006, 18:25

Personally, I doubt that the gaming industry will follow lock-step into Vista in the long run (though it looks like they'll do it initially).

1. Microsoft has a history of not being backwards compatible with previous versions of Windows with games. Remember the Win98->WinXP jump? Personally, I was rather pissed that my brand new games would not run under XP (which I jumped into without a copy of '98 to jump back to). I wouldn't be surprised if some (perhaps many) games designed for XP won't run on Vista.

2. Eventually, someone will write a wrapper up that can take DX-10+ under XP. This will require support from video vendors (ATI / nVidia) to write drivers on XP capable of DX-10 features, though. On the other hand, you can approach it from the other end as well. Most of the really popular new games run well under linux under cedega. This includes HL2, BF2, WoW, Oblivion, and quite a few others. I don't see any reason why DX-10 can't be reverse engineered in time and implemented under linux, and furthermore, I can see how this will drive gamers to linux. I even have one windows game that I can't play under windows, but I can play under Cedega (Guildwars) because Windows can't do 32-bit emulation very well but linux can. Hell, it even supports the full breadth of my hardware that way (2560x1024 res screen, rather than clipping it to a standard res of 1280x1024 as most Windows games do is one notable example)(I also refuse to run a native 32-bit OS - which locks me out of quite a few games (annoyingly enough)).

3. Personally, I don't feel like shelling out another $400-800 for another equivalent version of Windows to the one I have in the next generation. I also refuse to pirate it. In fact, I won't buy it until I find it at a reasonable price (the competition's around $100 - that's a hint).

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RedLion · August 25th, 2006, 18:30

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Metalmurphy: I think you missed MY point

What i meant was since DX10 won't be on XP it's not just Halo 2 that will MAKE you buy Vista but pretty much everygame in 1 year time.

lol.arf...hum.
well but I don't think all the games in 2k7 will be exclusively compatible with DX10. Even the last advanced technology unreal engine 3 is at this day compatible DX9.
The developpers will need a little adaptation to pass to DX10.
So I don't think it's even a good argument for buying Vista.

**OK-OK** · August 25th, 2006, 19:02

We should all boycott Vista so Halo 2 flops. But I highly doubt a lot people will do that.

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**Cid Highwind** · August 25th, 2006, 23:50

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lol.arf...hum.
well but I don't think all the games in 2k7 will be exclusively compatible with DX10. Even the last advanced technology unreal engine 3 is at this day compatible DX9.
The developpers will need a little adaptation to pass to DX10.
So I don't think it's even a good argument for buying Vista.

Yup, another good point, most games might make use of the newer features when supported, but I doubt a lot of developers will force the newer features upon you. Kinda like with the whole Pixel Shader stuff, games support SM3 features, but that doesn't mean they won't run if you've got a SM2 card. It will only mean less people can play their games, thus less profit.

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darth sephiroth · August 26th, 2006, 00:10

You'd be surprised cid. If i reinstalled windows and all the drivers on my crap laptop, even that one would be strong enough to take oblivion on minimum graphics... but there's the damn pixel shaders stopping me. If there was an option "No pixel shading, it just looks ugly anyway" i'd be playing oblivion on my laptop

also, i guess if vista somehow gets slapped on my computer (not mentioned how i obtain it

) it's gonna be a dual boot... placed on the bottom of the list... and.. uh.. strictly for crap the demands vista no-matter-what-the-****.

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Shin_Mike_God · August 26th, 2006, 00:18

meh its only halo, other day watched an interview with carmack and he even said hes not too excited about programing in vista and stuff, that hed rather wait for the stuff to be settle, so im serious who cares about halo 2, when there are way better fps in pc and aviliable a more coming -.-

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industrian · August 26th, 2006, 00:19

Halo 2 ... meh. If I wanted some run-and-gun action with above-average AI and a-few-years-old graphics I'd get hammered and play the last few levels of Soldier of Fortune 2.

RZetlin · August 26th, 2006, 00:54

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Originally Posted by RedLion

What I say is that they just a little taking us for fools.They could made two versions:
-a win xp version
-a vista version a little more functions enhanced.
(for a two years game I think it's largely possible knowing that Halo 2 won't need DX10 so Metalmurphy, I think you miss the point; I don't think the future DX SDK is the problem)

This a a ridiculous marketing strategy.I'm sure XP can make largely turn halo 2.

Welcome to three months ago RedLion, this news is old.

Microsoft could make Halo 2 for the older operating sytem but they won't.

The outlook for Vista is not good so Microsoft need a "killer app" to attract the users like gamers.

Personally I think the Halo series is overrated, so having Halo 2 on Vista won't bother me.

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DaStinger77 · August 26th, 2006, 01:41

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You'd be surprised cid. If i reinstalled windows and all the drivers on my crap laptop, even that one would be strong enough to take oblivion on minimum graphics... but there's the damn pixel shaders stopping me. If there was an option "No pixel shading, it just looks ugly anyway" i'd be playing oblivion on my laptop

Just download the OldBlivion plugin and you should be able to play on your craptop no problem

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RF · August 26th, 2006, 05:00

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Originally Posted by Kirby

http://www.gamevideos.com/video/id/5270

don't tell me that **** couldn't of been made using DX9. Microsoft is one big cash cow, but most people aren't that dumb to buy a buggy OS just for one game.

Oh well, enjoy your sword newbies

Don't make me the first to scream. BETA. BETA BETA BETA. Save that warmonger stuff for AFTER its released

Vista build 5536 was released in the past day or so, and it is leaps ahead of beta2. RC1 should be an interesting build.

I do disagree with them releasing it as vista only, as it is on the original xbox after all. It is Halo by the way, not something totally awesome like Spore

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Player-X · August 26th, 2006, 05:42

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Don't make me the first to scream. BETA. BETA BETA BETA.

Allow me, IT'S STILL A BETA!!
Seriously though, you can't judge anything with it's incomplete form. Will you judge the next F1 car as being non functional when most of the inside of the car isn't even designed yet?
I am testing Windows Beta, while I agree that it needs a little work but then again they still have plenty of time and no doubt Vista will eventuaily be shipped with most PCs I don't exactly see a problem with Vista adoption market share wise.
And before you complain about Microsoft having backwards compatibility issues let me ask you: Why did Microsoft get such a massive lead over Apple computer in the first place?

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RedLion Molded to be a winner. Join Date: Jul 2006 Location: CyberSpace Posts: 3,083	Halo 2 only on Windows Vista.... Great at last Bungie and Microsoft have decided to bring Pc players the Halo sequel. A good new at first sight.... the bad new just behind is that Halo 2 will only turn on windows vista....:cuss2: But what the F***???? Does Microsoft taking us for milky cows???? This is the first time for a game.so guys are u ready to change you old good xp O.S just to play a 2 years old (very good it's true) game?? Do you think they gonna do the same for Halo 3?

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August 25th, 2006, 17:12	#2
Metalmurphy Translator Join Date: Jun 2001 Location: Portugal, Oporto Posts: 5,776	That is REALLY old news. And it's not just Halo 2, since microsoft won't be releasing DX10 on XP its gonna be pretty much almost every game in 1 year time. __________________ -------------------------------- Computer Specs ---------------------------------- Intel Pentium IV Prescott 3.0 HT → 4x 512MB DDR-DIMM → ASUS GF 6800 GT Sound Blaster X-Fi → 2x Maxtor 80 GB (RAID 0) Hitachi 19'' Monitor → Cambridge Soundworks Desktop Theater --------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------

August 25th, 2006, 17:18	#3
Dogmaan Terminal Dogma Join Date: Feb 2004 Location: UK Posts: 256	for the past 2 decades us gamers have supported microsoft by buying windows, microsoft have repaid our loyalty by moving 90% of microsoft entertainment franchises to the X-block. Originally Halo was for the Apple Mac, then microsoft bought Bungie and changed the target platform to the x-box while telling us PC users it was coming out for the PC first (if you look back at old PC Gamer magazines you will see previews of the PC version way before the xbox version), this was a lie so that when the x-block came out, we had already bought into the Halo hype, and would run to the shops with our cash and buy an xbox and a copy of Halo. I personally will never buy an xblock 360, unless the security is broken on them, because then microsoft will lose money on the xbox i buy, as i will NEVER buy an official game, not one. Microsoft have repaid our loyalty by letting the PC gaming scene stagnate, and to put it simply, I HATE THEM. __________________ Hmm pc = ASrock 939 dual sata 2 mobo , Athlon 3700+ 2.2@2.4, 1024mb Corsair DDR nvidia geforce 7800GTX 256mb

August 25th, 2006, 17:26	#4
Cid Highwind The Hunter Join Date: Oct 2002 Location: NL Posts: 15,877	Then again I wonder how many of those "loyal" Microsoft Windows gamers have gotten that Windows Genuine Advantage message lately Dogmaan, grow up. You're saying you'll buy the console simply because M$ will lose money on it. They aren't letting the PC gaming scene stagnate, they're trying to push it forward with DX10, even if that means dropping it for XP. I wonder though if DX10 would technically be possible to implement in XP. Btw, pc gaming has stagnated years ago... all we see are WW2 shooters and RTS' and NFS', luckily there has been some improvement in the genres, but still it's all the same stuff with a different flavour. ps. This should be in gaming discussion, is it really thát hard to see where a thread belongs? __________________ PC Specs: CPU: Intel Q8200 @ 2.8GHz // GPU: Sapphire ATi HD5870 1GB // Mobo: Gigabyte EP35-DS3 RAM: 4GB Kingston HyperX DDR2 1066 // HDD: 1TB Samsung Spinpoint // SPU: Creative X-Fi Xtreme Music PSU: Hiper Type-R 580W // Monitor: Iiyama B2403WS / 19201200 Join the NGEmu Folding @ Home community NOW!*

August 25th, 2006, 18:01	#7
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August 25th, 2006, 18:12	#8
GaveUpTomorrow Registered User Join Date: Mar 2006 Posts: 415	I personally never heard of Halo until after the commercials for Halo on the xbox came out, so I never knew it was supposed to be on apple/pc first. Weird. I have to say I don't really think the game is that great. As for a multi-player party game (connecting several xbox's together), it was pretty fun for a while. But, aside from that, I really saw nothing amazing...same with Halo 2. Therefore, you won't see me buying Vista for this game, or any game That is just silly.

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KillerShots War Games coder Join Date: Apr 2001 Location: Florida Posts: 1,927	Personally, I doubt that the gaming industry will follow lock-step into Vista in the long run (though it looks like they'll do it initially). 1. Microsoft has a history of not being backwards compatible with previous versions of Windows with games. Remember the Win98->WinXP jump? Personally, I was rather pissed that my brand new games would not run under XP (which I jumped into without a copy of '98 to jump back to). I wouldn't be surprised if some (perhaps many) games designed for XP won't run on Vista. 2. Eventually, someone will write a wrapper up that can take DX-10+ under XP. This will require support from video vendors (ATI / nVidia) to write drivers on XP capable of DX-10 features, though. On the other hand, you can approach it from the other end as well. Most of the really popular new games run well under linux under cedega. This includes HL2, BF2, WoW, Oblivion, and quite a few others. I don't see any reason why DX-10 can't be reverse engineered in time and implemented under linux, and furthermore, I can see how this will drive gamers to linux. I even have one windows game that I can't play under windows, but I can play under Cedega (Guildwars) because Windows can't do 32-bit emulation very well but linux can. Hell, it even supports the full breadth of my hardware that way (2560x1024 res screen, rather than clipping it to a standard res of 1280x1024 as most Windows games do is one notable example)(I also refuse to run a native 32-bit OS - which locks me out of quite a few games (annoyingly enough)). 3. Personally, I don't feel like shelling out another $400-800 for another equivalent version of Windows to the one I have in the next generation. I also refuse to pirate it. In fact, I won't buy it until I find it at a reasonable price (the competition's around $100 - that's a hint). __________________ Primary CPU: Athlon 64 X2 4400+ Mobo: Biostar N4SLI-A9 RAM: 2G Crucial (DDR400) Video: eVGA GeForce 7900 GTX (512M) Audio: HDA X-Mystique HD(s): Maxtor 300G SATA2, Samsung 400G SATA2 OS(s): WinXP x64 Pro, Vista x32 Ultimate, Gentoo x64 Monitor(s): Primary - 19" Flat Panel (1280x1024) Secondary - 19" Flat Panel (1280x1024) Tertiary - Zenith 42" Plasma TV (1024x768 res) Many other machines... sig too short

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darth sephiroth .!. (^.^) .!. Join Date: Jan 2006 Location: You're looking at it right now. Posts: 2,017	You'd be surprised cid. If i reinstalled windows and all the drivers on my crap laptop, even that one would be strong enough to take oblivion on minimum graphics... but there's the damn pixel shaders stopping me. If there was an option "No pixel shading, it just looks ugly anyway" i'd be playing oblivion on my laptop also, i guess if vista somehow gets slapped on my computer (not mentioned how i obtain it ) it's gonna be a dual boot... placed on the bottom of the list... and.. uh.. strictly for crap the demands vista no-matter-what-the-****. __________________ "Going too far is going almost all the way around the world, then turn around to go back" - me "He's not going too far, he's going around the world" - me "They're looking for a factbook in the fiction section of the library." - me "I find spam useless and fatally contradictive to its own existence." - me

August 26th, 2006, 00:18	#15
Shin_Mike_God Registered User Join Date: Oct 2003 Location: Acapulco, hot place Posts: 181	meh its only halo, other day watched an interview with carmack and he even said hes not too excited about programing in vista and stuff, that hed rather wait for the stuff to be settle, so im serious who cares about halo 2, when there are way better fps in pc and aviliable a more coming -.- __________________ My english is a crap.. So dont blame me!!1!

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industrian Some Scottish Guy Join Date: Jan 2005 Location: Xindian, Taiwan, ROC Posts: 4,276	Halo 2 ... meh. If I wanted some run-and-gun action with above-average AI and a-few-years-old graphics I'd get hammered and play the last few levels of Soldier of Fortune 2.