Is this normal?

MC_Renzy · November 19th, 2001, 22:19

While using either sound plugin for any game, when you load to the next sceen(ex. Final Fantasy9, walking into a house) the sound drags on for about 2 secs then goes back to normal once your in the new area. Does this happen to you? Maybe my system specs have to be better? By the way, it does this for both iso and running of cdrom. Cdrom is much worse though. My system specs are as follows

WinXP
Duron 750
geforce 2 ultra
256 ram
20gig 7200rpm
12x dvd

MC_Renzy · November 19th, 2001, 22:20

I mean the music drags on, not the sound effects. Sorry about that.

Arpanet · November 19th, 2001, 22:56

To help you, we need your plugins and configs. But my first wild guess is that you might have OSD (Off-Screen Drawing) turned way up. Also, certain plugins do XA better than others. Try switching to Eternal's SPU and see where that gets you.

Another question: does the FPS go down, or just the music?

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MC_Renzy · November 19th, 2001, 23:30

My fps stays at 59 and as soon as i enter a new scene it quickly goes down to 52 then back upto 59. I am using petes opengl and the eternal spu plugins. I have tried all of them with the game and the ones that can run the game, do the same thing. I tried updating my vid drivers as well as sound drivers but still not luck. I cant see it being my system for I have a geforce 2 ultra with 64 megs of ram. The games run great except for this little sound problem(annoying). Also, where is this OSD (Off-Screen Drawing) option you speak of?

WinXP
Duron 750
Geforce 2 Ultra
256 ram
Sound Blaster Live
20gig 7200rpm HD
12x DVD

MC_Renzy · November 19th, 2001, 23:32

Never mind, I found the OSD, I just forgot the name. Do you have any other ideas of what might be causing this?

MC_Renzy · November 19th, 2001, 23:35

I switch OSD to lowest and now my fps stays at 59 all the time, but the sound is still doing it.

dpence · November 19th, 2001, 23:39

Is the game accessing the Cd? I think you'll find it's dropping cause PC cd rom access latency sucks....Try making an ISO of the disk.

MC_Renzy · November 19th, 2001, 23:56

Its states at the top that I tried both ways and cdrom is worse. It still does it with ISO.

Alienist · November 19th, 2001, 23:59

Have you tried othe sound plugins to see if that happens?

**Betamax** · November 20th, 2001, 00:00

Well if that's the case then it suggests that its the loading of the next screen which is causing the glitch. I'd check that the DMA option for you HDD in device manager is switched on.

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MC_Renzy · November 20th, 2001, 00:13

I have an ata100 which doesnt allow me to set dma. My hard drive is considerd the fastest ide drive you can get right now(benchmarks all over net prove this). I have tried all plugins, sound and video.

MC_Renzy · November 20th, 2001, 02:23

I also put everything at the fullest graphics and it runs exactly the same so I know for a fact its not on account of my system being slow

**fivefeet8** · November 20th, 2001, 03:58

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Originally posted by MC_Renzy
I also put everything at the fullest graphics and it runs exactly the same so I know for a fact its not on account of my system being slow

I think it is rather normal.. Although I dont' get 2 second lags like you.. I get 1\2 sec lags when changing scenes.. Barely noticeable.. But this only happens when running off cds.. I get little to no lag at all when running from isos.. Have you tried defragging your HD?

OH, and your graphics card is good, but your cpu may be bogging some parts of emulation down a bit.. Not much, but noticeable enough.. I have a tbird gig and these types of problems also appear, even if rarely.. Running isos from a Maxtor 40 gig ata100 7200 rpm HD.. Gonna get an 80 gig HD this christmas.. I may need a tbird c-1.4 gig 266 fsb cpu.. Then all slowdowns and lags should be history..

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MC_Renzy · November 20th, 2001, 04:05

Ya thats what I was thinking. My cpu isnt the greatest for handling calculations. Hey Fivefeet, what kind of video card do you have?

**fivefeet8** · November 20th, 2001, 04:08

I have a voodoo 5 5500 agp.. Check my profile for my full system specs.. My graphics card is not as good as your graphics card, but my cpu makes up for it..

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TastEPlasma · November 21st, 2001, 06:09

Quote:

Originally posted by MC_Renzy
I have an ata100 which doesnt allow me to set dma. My hard drive is considerd the fastest ide drive you can get right now(benchmarks all over net prove this). I have tried all plugins, sound and video.

Hmm, I might be wrong, but are you aure about this? I ask because I have an ATA100 Mobo, as well as an IBM 307030, which was the creme of the crop back when I bought it some 9 months ago. Well, maybe not in terms of size, but for data transfer it rocked.

Anyways, I would double check your drive properties through control panels/system, and makle sure DMA is on for sure.

As for your problem itself, Im not really sure what to tell ya. Could maybe be that the Duron with its smaller cache is simply having to load/process more during the scene change operations. Honestly, I really dont know.

Just a thought or two,
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**fivefeet8** · November 21st, 2001, 19:29

It depends on the computer system.. My system doesn't allow me to set DMA for my harddrive from windows, but my motherboard bios allows settings for DMA to all my ide devices even my harddrive.. I have my Harddrive DMA set to UDMA5 meaning ata 100 = 100mbytes\sec.. In windows, there is no dma setting for my Harddrive, only for my cd rom drives..

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November 19th, 2001, 22:19	#1
MC_Renzy Banned Join Date: Nov 2001 Posts: 48	Is this normal? While using either sound plugin for any game, when you load to the next sceen(ex. Final Fantasy9, walking into a house) the sound drags on for about 2 secs then goes back to normal once your in the new area. Does this happen to you? Maybe my system specs have to be better? By the way, it does this for both iso and running of cdrom. Cdrom is much worse though. My system specs are as follows WinXP Duron 750 geforce 2 ultra 256 ram 20gig 7200rpm 12x dvd

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November 19th, 2001, 22:20	#2
MC_Renzy Banned Join Date: Nov 2001 Posts: 48	I mean the music drags on, not the sound effects. Sorry about that.

November 19th, 2001, 22:56	#3
Arpanet Powerslave Join Date: Jul 2001 Location: The eyes of the night Posts: 1,812	To help you, we need your plugins and configs. But my first wild guess is that you might have OSD (Off-Screen Drawing) turned way up. Also, certain plugins do XA better than others. Try switching to Eternal's SPU and see where that gets you. Another question: does the FPS go down, or just the music? __________________ -----------------------------------THE\|ALCHEMIST----------------------------------- P4 2.4C @ 3 GHz \| 512 MB Corsair XMS PC3200 DDR400 Dual Channel 2-2-4-5 Asus P4P800 BIOS 1010 \| WD800JB SE Caviar \| RADEON 9700 Pro 128 MB DDR a.k.a. Asfaloth. Batards unite!

November 19th, 2001, 23:30	#4
MC_Renzy Banned Join Date: Nov 2001 Posts: 48	My fps stays at 59 and as soon as i enter a new scene it quickly goes down to 52 then back upto 59. I am using petes opengl and the eternal spu plugins. I have tried all of them with the game and the ones that can run the game, do the same thing. I tried updating my vid drivers as well as sound drivers but still not luck. I cant see it being my system for I have a geforce 2 ultra with 64 megs of ram. The games run great except for this little sound problem(annoying). Also, where is this OSD (Off-Screen Drawing) option you speak of? WinXP Duron 750 Geforce 2 Ultra 256 ram Sound Blaster Live 20gig 7200rpm HD 12x DVD

November 19th, 2001, 23:32	#5
MC_Renzy Banned Join Date: Nov 2001 Posts: 48	Never mind, I found the OSD, I just forgot the name. Do you have any other ideas of what might be causing this?

November 19th, 2001, 23:35	#6
MC_Renzy Banned Join Date: Nov 2001 Posts: 48	I switch OSD to lowest and now my fps stays at 59 all the time, but the sound is still doing it.

November 19th, 2001, 23:39	#7
dpence Registered User Join Date: Apr 2001 Location: USA Posts: 1,120	Is the game accessing the Cd? I think you'll find it's dropping cause PC cd rom access latency sucks....Try making an ISO of the disk.

November 19th, 2001, 23:56	#8
MC_Renzy Banned Join Date: Nov 2001 Posts: 48	Its states at the top that I tried both ways and cdrom is worse. It still does it with ISO.

November 19th, 2001, 23:59	#9
Alienist Registered User Join Date: Oct 2001 Location: Brazil, Jungle, Tree nº469. Take the elevator. Posts: 41	Have you tried othe sound plugins to see if that happens?

November 20th, 2001, 00:00	#10
Betamax Resident Movie Critic Join Date: Apr 2001 Location: Belfast, Northern Ireland Posts: 9,506	Well if that's the case then it suggests that its the loading of the next screen which is causing the glitch. I'd check that the DMA option for you HDD in device manager is switched on. __________________ Superior marketing of an inferior product will always win over inferior marketing of a superior product.

November 20th, 2001, 00:13	#11
MC_Renzy Banned Join Date: Nov 2001 Posts: 48	I have an ata100 which doesnt allow me to set dma. My hard drive is considerd the fastest ide drive you can get right now(benchmarks all over net prove this). I have tried all plugins, sound and video.

November 20th, 2001, 02:23	#12
MC_Renzy Banned Join Date: Nov 2001 Posts: 48	I also put everything at the fullest graphics and it runs exactly the same so I know for a fact its not on account of my system being slow

November 20th, 2001, 04:05	#14
MC_Renzy Banned Join Date: Nov 2001 Posts: 48	Ya thats what I was thinking. My cpu isnt the greatest for handling calculations. Hey Fivefeet, what kind of video card do you have?

November 20th, 2001, 04:08	#15
fivefeet8 &-)---\|--< Join Date: Apr 2001 Location: Smallville Posts: 8,060	I have a voodoo 5 5500 agp.. Check my profile for my full system specs.. My graphics card is not as good as your graphics card, but my cpu makes up for it.. __________________ Play emulated games online Main Rig\|\|Intel i7 2600k @4.4 ghz\|2x4 gb DDR3 1600\|Asrock Extreme7 Gen3\|EVGA GTX670 2GB\|EVGA GTX460 PhysX\|2x Seagate 160gb SATA150 Raid0\|250 gb Samsung SATA2 HD\| OCZ 240GB SSD SATA3 \|NEC 3520 4x/8x DVD+R/RW DL burner\|Rosewill 1000 Watt\|40" Sony Bravia 1080p\|Logitec 5.1 Speaker System w/10" Sub\|Windows 7 64bit Ultimate\|\| SimplyBuyIt - Health&Nutrition

November 21st, 2001, 19:29	#17
fivefeet8 &-)---\|--< Join Date: Apr 2001 Location: Smallville Posts: 8,060	It depends on the computer system.. My system doesn't allow me to set DMA for my harddrive from windows, but my motherboard bios allows settings for DMA to all my ide devices even my harddrive.. I have my Harddrive DMA set to UDMA5 meaning ata 100 = 100mbytes\sec.. In windows, there is no dma setting for my Harddrive, only for my cd rom drives.. __________________ Play emulated games online Main Rig\|\|Intel i7 2600k @4.4 ghz\|2x4 gb DDR3 1600\|Asrock Extreme7 Gen3\|EVGA GTX670 2GB\|EVGA GTX460 PhysX\|2x Seagate 160gb SATA150 Raid0\|250 gb Samsung SATA2 HD\| OCZ 240GB SSD SATA3 \|NEC 3520 4x/8x DVD+R/RW DL burner\|Rosewill 1000 Watt\|40" Sony Bravia 1080p\|Logitec 5.1 Speaker System w/10" Sub\|Windows 7 64bit Ultimate\|\| SimplyBuyIt - Health&Nutrition