IGN revisiting Dreamcast

**Cid Highwind** · May 31st, 2006, 08:31

I thought some of you might be interested in this.

IGN had some sort of a countdown last week regarding the Dreamcast, however we didn't know what it was all about. It turned out IGN was redoing the Dreamcast section to take a look back at the console.

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I hope you will like it.

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ShinKyo · May 31st, 2006, 08:56

Good News! But I'm sure you'll love to hear this...

Return of the Dreamcast

On February 16, 2006, Sega once again began selling Dreamcast consoles through its online store, Sega Direct of Japan. It is a package deal that comes with a refurbished Dreamcast, a cell phone card, and Radilgy - a new 2D shooter game. G-Rev followed up with a second new 2D shooter game called Under Defeat in March. Both releases are for the Japanese market only.

It is believed that if these new releases are successful, it may follow titles such as Ikaruga, Castle of Shikigami 2, and Chaos Field in being ported to the GameCube and possibly the PlayStation 2.

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**Cid Highwind** · May 31st, 2006, 09:10

That's already old news to me

Radirgy already has got ports planned to the PS2 and Cube, I don't know about Under Defeat. I hope the games won't get screwed when they get ported to PS2, which definately isn't a good system for DC ports, as history has proven.

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ShinKyo · May 31st, 2006, 09:53

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Radirgy already has got ports planned to the PS2 and Cube, I don't know about Under Defeat. I hope the games won't get screwed when they get ported to PS2, which definately isn't a good system for DC ports, as history has proven.

That's true! Like "Capcom vs. SNK 2". The Dreamcast version is a perfectly good translation of the arcade port. But when it is ported on PS2 it looks more pixelated than the Dreamcast port and the game play is much better and enjoyable on Dreamcast.

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Silenus · May 31st, 2006, 13:43

Fighting games on the Dreamcast are great.
My only complain was about the controller, which I never felt comfortable in fighting games.

SF3, Capcom vs Snk, Snk vs Capcom, Garou, Last Blade, KOF, Dreamcast is a fighters heaven.

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**Cid Highwind** · May 31st, 2006, 14:33

The controller ain't comfortable in any game that makes you tighten up your grip because it is bend towards the inside rather than outwards.

Oh and Silenus, I think you meant Marvel vs Capcom instead of listing Capcom vs SNK twice

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D.D. · May 31st, 2006, 14:58

i could have sworn i read somewhere that the dreamcast is getting back into production.

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**Cid Highwind** · May 31st, 2006, 15:06

Sega stopped production because there were too many Dreamcasts that weren't sold yet. I think I read the same thing as you DD some time ago, but it is most likely that that was hinting at the selling of refurbished DC's via Sega Direct. I don't see a reason for Sega to produce new DC's, no one is interested in them, the few people that still are already have a DC or will hunt one down.

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**CKemu** · May 31st, 2006, 15:13

I still own a DC, got a mix of games for it, but it suprises me that more games would be made for it, the truth be told I love the classics, not new 'fan boy' service games, esp if they're going to be ported to other current units.

Nice to see IGN revisit the DC, it deserves a poke every now and then

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**Cid Highwind** · May 31st, 2006, 15:18

Well as long as the fanboys are happy, right?

It's good see it's still a profitable market as well. I'm no shooter fan, but I do have 2 of the games released in 2004 or later and though I might not have bought them if they were released in the DC's popular days, I am glad I have them because they are some of the best games released on DC and have given me countless hours of fun

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**CKemu** · May 31st, 2006, 15:23

Bloody hell, your six thousand, six hundred, and sixty sixth post, of which I dare say 4,000+ are partly DC releated

I love shooters, but thats where MAME comes in (Vasara 2 w00t!), Ikaruga is one I picked up back in the day, but I like the DC for it's quirky games like Cosmic Smash, you'll find me on that for hours!!

I would love SEGA to make a console comeback out of the blue, really mix the games market up.

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Silenus · May 31st, 2006, 15:26

Quote:

Originally Posted by Cid Highwind

The controller ain't comfortable in any game that makes you tighten up your grip because it is bend towards the inside rather than outwards.

Oh and Silenus, I think you meant Marvel vs Capcom instead of listing Capcom vs SNK twice

Cid, I did it on purpose, 'cause Capcom vs SNK, made by Capcom, is different from SNK vs Capcom Chaos, made by SNK.

I really didn't like Marvel vs Capcom, 'cause I though anybody could win by just smashing butttons.

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D.D. · May 31st, 2006, 15:34

Quote:

Originally Posted by Cid Highwind

Sega stopped production because there were too many Dreamcasts that weren't sold yet. I think I read the same thing as you DD some time ago, but it is most likely that that was hinting at the selling of refurbished DC's via Sega Direct. I don't see a reason for Sega to produce new DC's, no one is interested in them, the few people that still are already have a DC or will hunt one down.

but i read that quite recently...i refuse to let my hopes die

<--my soul is still burning

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I really didn't like Marvel vs Capcom, 'cause I though anybody could win by just smashing butttons.

nope.

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Silenus · May 31st, 2006, 15:41

Quote:

Originally Posted by D.D.

nope.

Come on, man.
Just with a super combo you could win a fight.

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**Cid Highwind** · May 31st, 2006, 15:45

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Originally Posted by Silenus

Cid, I did it on purpose, 'cause Capcom vs SNK, made by Capcom, is different from SNK vs Capcom Chaos, made by SNK.

I never actually heard of SNK vs Capcom Chaos for DC

*cid does a quick google search*

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Are you sure it also saw a DC release?

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D.D. · May 31st, 2006, 15:53

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Originally Posted by Silenus

Come on, man.
Just with a super combo you could win a fight.

if you lose because someone does super combo and you didn't block...theres nothing i can say.

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Silenus · May 31st, 2006, 15:53

Quote:

I never actually heard of SNK vs Capcom Chaos for DC

*cid does a quick google search*

Link
Are you sure it also saw a DC release?

Oh I thought I played that on DC before, but now that I think about it, It was on Neo Geo that I saw it first then on PS2.

Next time I'll double check my stuff when talking about DC with you.

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if you lose because someone does super combo and you didn't block...theres nothing i can say.

Well, that's my personal opinion of the game, I just don't consider it a good 2d fighter for me, although a lot of people like that series.

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Kaiser Sigma · June 2nd, 2006, 13:22

Quote:

Originally Posted by CKemu

I love shooters, but thats where MAME comes in (Vasara 2 w00t!), Ikaruga is one I picked up back in the day, but I like the DC for it's quirky games like Cosmic Smash, you'll find me on that for hours!!

The DC saw a lot of shooters and while most of them were ok or good Ikaruga and Border Down are two shooters nobody should miss. Particularly the later since it's like going back to the roots of good old shooters.

Other than that the Dreamcast had ST1-4...enough said.

**Cid Highwind** · June 2nd, 2006, 15:37

Quote:

Originally Posted by CKemu

Bloody hell, your six thousand, six hundred, and sixty sixth post, of which I dare say 4,000+ are partly DC releated

I love shooters, but thats where MAME comes in (Vasara 2 w00t!), Ikaruga is one I picked up back in the day, but I like the DC for it's quirky games like Cosmic Smash, you'll find me on that for hours!!

I would love SEGA to make a console comeback out of the blue, really mix the games market up.

You got a screenshot of that one?

I dunno if it will reach 4000, but it sure must be a lot, and if it weren't about DC it was something against $ony

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Originally Posted by Kaiser Sigma

The DC saw a lot of shooters and while most of them were ok or good Ikaruga and Border Down are two shooters nobody should miss. Particularly the later since it's like going back to the roots of good old shooters.

Other than that the Dreamcast had ST1-4...enough said.

Have you also played any of the recent DC releases? Under Defeat is a highly polished game, easily the best smoke effects on DC. I know graphics don't make a shooter, but it sure is a pro. Also, I especially like how it isn't a pattern shooter like Ikaruga, but more like an old school game where the enemies focus on you.

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MT · June 2nd, 2006, 15:51

I must say I play Under Defeat. Btw it's the only game of it's genre that I play. It's addicting!

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May 31st, 2006, 08:31	#1
Cid Highwind The Hunter Join Date: Oct 2002 Location: NL Posts: 15,877	IGN revisiting Dreamcast I thought some of you might be interested in this. IGN had some sort of a countdown last week regarding the Dreamcast, however we didn't know what it was all about. It turned out IGN was redoing the Dreamcast section to take a look back at the console. Link I hope you will like it. __________________ PC Specs: CPU: Intel Q8200 @ 2.8GHz // GPU: Sapphire ATi HD5870 1GB // Mobo: Gigabyte EP35-DS3 RAM: 4GB Kingston HyperX DDR2 1066 // HDD: 1TB Samsung Spinpoint // SPU: Creative X-Fi Xtreme Music PSU: Hiper Type-R 580W // Monitor: Iiyama B2403WS / 19201200 Join the NGEmu Folding @ Home community NOW!*

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ShinKyo The Real Kyo Kusanagi Join Date: May 2006 Location: Japan Posts: 23	Return of the Dreamcast? Good News! But I'm sure you'll love to hear this... Return of the Dreamcast On February 16, 2006, Sega once again began selling Dreamcast consoles through its online store, Sega Direct of Japan. It is a package deal that comes with a refurbished Dreamcast, a cell phone card, and Radilgy - a new 2D shooter game. G-Rev followed up with a second new 2D shooter game called Under Defeat in March. Both releases are for the Japanese market only. It is believed that if these new releases are successful, it may follow titles such as Ikaruga, Castle of Shikigami 2, and Chaos Field in being ported to the GameCube and possibly the PlayStation 2. __________________ Nani kusubutten da?

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May 31st, 2006, 09:10	#3
Cid Highwind The Hunter Join Date: Oct 2002 Location: NL Posts: 15,877	That's already old news to me Radirgy already has got ports planned to the PS2 and Cube, I don't know about Under Defeat. I hope the games won't get screwed when they get ported to PS2, which definately isn't a good system for DC ports, as history has proven. __________________ PC Specs: CPU: Intel Q8200 @ 2.8GHz // GPU: Sapphire ATi HD5870 1GB // Mobo: Gigabyte EP35-DS3 RAM: 4GB Kingston HyperX DDR2 1066 // HDD: 1TB Samsung Spinpoint // SPU: Creative X-Fi Xtreme Music PSU: Hiper Type-R 580W // Monitor: Iiyama B2403WS / 19201200 Join the NGEmu Folding @ Home community NOW!*

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Silenus Pilgrim Join Date: Apr 2005 Location: Hyperion Posts: 6,897	Fighting games on the Dreamcast are great. My only complain was about the controller, which I never felt comfortable in fighting games. SF3, Capcom vs Snk, Snk vs Capcom, Garou, Last Blade, KOF, Dreamcast is a fighters heaven. __________________ DELL XPS 13 ULTRABOOK ...Mis sueños son mentiras que algun día dejarán de serlo...

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Cid Highwind The Hunter Join Date: Oct 2002 Location: NL Posts: 15,877	The controller ain't comfortable in any game that makes you tighten up your grip because it is bend towards the inside rather than outwards. Oh and Silenus, I think you meant Marvel vs Capcom instead of listing Capcom vs SNK twice __________________ PC Specs: CPU: Intel Q8200 @ 2.8GHz // GPU: Sapphire ATi HD5870 1GB // Mobo: Gigabyte EP35-DS3 RAM: 4GB Kingston HyperX DDR2 1066 // HDD: 1TB Samsung Spinpoint // SPU: Creative X-Fi Xtreme Music PSU: Hiper Type-R 580W // Monitor: Iiyama B2403WS / 19201200 Join the NGEmu Folding @ Home community NOW!*

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D.D. band Join Date: Apr 2002 Location: HERE Posts: 4,912	i could have sworn i read somewhere that the dreamcast is getting back into production. __________________ 1. Small, Cheap, Powerful - you can have only two 2. Everytime you engineer something foolproof, the world comes up with a better idiot. 3. 「学問とは虚栄である。」 The PS3 Cell Processor Explained Page, IBM Research's Introduction to Cell Multiprocessor and Cell Processor Programming Guide

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Cid Highwind The Hunter Join Date: Oct 2002 Location: NL Posts: 15,877	Sega stopped production because there were too many Dreamcasts that weren't sold yet. I think I read the same thing as you DD some time ago, but it is most likely that that was hinting at the selling of refurbished DC's via Sega Direct. I don't see a reason for Sega to produce new DC's, no one is interested in them, the few people that still are already have a DC or will hunt one down. __________________ PC Specs: CPU: Intel Q8200 @ 2.8GHz // GPU: Sapphire ATi HD5870 1GB // Mobo: Gigabyte EP35-DS3 RAM: 4GB Kingston HyperX DDR2 1066 // HDD: 1TB Samsung Spinpoint // SPU: Creative X-Fi Xtreme Music PSU: Hiper Type-R 580W // Monitor: Iiyama B2403WS / 19201200 Join the NGEmu Folding @ Home community NOW!*

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CKemu It's a Spinning Smile! Join Date: Oct 2001 Posts: 5,305	I still own a DC, got a mix of games for it, but it suprises me that more games would be made for it, the truth be told I love the classics, not new 'fan boy' service games, esp if they're going to be ported to other current units. Nice to see IGN revisit the DC, it deserves a poke every now and then __________________ » Beta Tester for PCSX2 \| ZeroGS KOSMOS \| Satourne \| nullDC \| Dolphin \| Misc Projects « » Intel Core i7 950 D0 @ 3.7GHz \| GeForce GTX 480 \| Corsair Dominator 6GB @ 1866MHz «

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Cid Highwind The Hunter Join Date: Oct 2002 Location: NL Posts: 15,877	Well as long as the fanboys are happy, right? It's good see it's still a profitable market as well. I'm no shooter fan, but I do have 2 of the games released in 2004 or later and though I might not have bought them if they were released in the DC's popular days, I am glad I have them because they are some of the best games released on DC and have given me countless hours of fun __________________ PC Specs: CPU: Intel Q8200 @ 2.8GHz // GPU: Sapphire ATi HD5870 1GB // Mobo: Gigabyte EP35-DS3 RAM: 4GB Kingston HyperX DDR2 1066 // HDD: 1TB Samsung Spinpoint // SPU: Creative X-Fi Xtreme Music PSU: Hiper Type-R 580W // Monitor: Iiyama B2403WS / 19201200 Join the NGEmu Folding @ Home community NOW!*

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CKemu It's a Spinning Smile! Join Date: Oct 2001 Posts: 5,305	Bloody hell, your six thousand, six hundred, and sixty sixth post, of which I dare say 4,000+ are partly DC releated I love shooters, but thats where MAME comes in (Vasara 2 w00t!), Ikaruga is one I picked up back in the day, but I like the DC for it's quirky games like Cosmic Smash, you'll find me on that for hours!! I would love SEGA to make a console comeback out of the blue, really mix the games market up. __________________ » Beta Tester for PCSX2 \| ZeroGS KOSMOS \| Satourne \| nullDC \| Dolphin \| Misc Projects « » Intel Core i7 950 D0 @ 3.7GHz \| GeForce GTX 480 \| Corsair Dominator 6GB @ 1866MHz «

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