Final Fantasy 7 PC

halohalo · May 18th, 2004, 19:38

Although it is much easier running ff7 on emulator. It is still possible to run ff7 PC with FSAA on nvidia's geforce series (I've tested gf2mx, gf3ti, gf4ti, gf4mx, fx5200, 5600, and 5900xt). So I got some snapshots of fx5900xt, gf4mx (with AGP8x), and voodoo2.

ATI's radeon series will cause grid problem on 2D background when FSAA is on, and there is no solution yet.

If voodoo5 users could post some snapshots, it would be very appreciated

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AnimeMagic · May 18th, 2004, 20:58

i have ati radeon9200se and when i want to play the pc version of the game it just stops

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**hushypushy** · May 18th, 2004, 23:43

well it ran fine on my TNT2 m64, that was the last time i played it

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Modem1 · May 19th, 2004, 00:40

Runs fine on my Radeon 9000 Pro, even with the "ati" fix enabled. Heh heh. Going through both the PC and the PSX versions at the moment at the same time. I never freaking get tired of this game!

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DaHumAn · May 19th, 2004, 04:30

oh god i can never really play this game again, it took me forever to get all the materials for all magics and all that for every character, if i have to go thru it again i'd go crazy

Mako Eyes · May 19th, 2004, 19:24

Looks like we've got a cheater here . . . Using Aeris in the Gelnika

I could never get the PC version working properly on my old ATi Rage 128 . . . That's like half the reason I got me a Voodoo3 3000.

Nice pics BTW

halohalo · May 19th, 2004, 20:41

Besides, it is also possible to use high-quality Cloud in battle mode.

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**cooliscool** · May 19th, 2004, 21:09

Wow, that model looks badass. How'd you do that?

O.T - halohalo, how do you like that Tualatin / Asus TUSLC-2?

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Vanit · May 19th, 2004, 21:27

Must... have... model...

My guess is its either a debug option for the PC version or he edited it himself... in which case he can't tease us like this so he has to give it out

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halohalo · May 19th, 2004, 21:51

Just download Dreakon's cloud-quality patch (cloudquality.zip) and apply the patch with LGP Tools 1.55.

cloudquality.zip:
http://forums.qhimm.com/viewtopic.php?t=2904&start=0

LGP Tools 1.55 (and ficedula.dll):
http://ficedula.cjb.net/

Unzip cloudquality.zip to
C:\Program Files\Square Soft, Inc\Final Fantasy VII\data\battle
And you can find out the file ff7cloudquality.ffpatch.

Make a backup of battle.lgp, then run LGP Tools 1.55. Choose Tools => Patches => Apply Patch. Apply ff7cloudquality.ffpatch and get high-quality Cloud in battle mode.

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Well, compared with my old k6-2 400 + Asus TX97, the combination of Celeron 1.2Ghz + Tusl2-C is really faster.

(Some people even use P3-S 1.4Ghz + Tusl2-C. But I can't afford it

)

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**Raziel** · May 20th, 2004, 00:37

Yeah, that model is the one you have when you fight sephiroth one vs one at the end, basically, I guess that with an Action Replay code it'd be possible too on PSOne.

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Mako Eyes · May 20th, 2004, 00:53

Wow, I never noticed that before . . . that's pretty cool.

ivalice · May 28th, 2004, 13:52

cool...like that I'm not going to get the PS version of FFVII, but I will get the PC version!!
anyway, I think my savage 2000 graphic card can support the high quality thingie, I suppose

halohalo · May 28th, 2004, 14:43

NVIDIA's driver supports 8-bit paletted textures emulation, which makes it possible to enable FSAA mode without graphical glitches.

For most modern video cards without 8-bit paletted textures support, like ATI's Radeon series, FSAA will cause graphical glitches. So I guess PS version will be a better choice than PC version, if you use savage 2000.

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**Kane** · May 28th, 2004, 15:20

The FX series dropper the 8-bit palletised texures support, IIRC.

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halohalo · May 28th, 2004, 15:35

8-bit paletted textures support emulation is enabled by default. So geforce series(fx series included) will pass the test when running ff7config1.02.

However, in order to enable 2x2 AA, RivaTuner is necessary. 2x2 AA is a hidden FSAA mode for new geforce chips (gf3, gf4ti, fx series).

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**Kane** · May 28th, 2004, 15:46

It's just a supersampling mode, which will be identical to the old geForce/2 method of antialiasing.

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halohalo · May 28th, 2004, 16:35

Yes, that is why gf2 users can enable FSAA without grid-line glitches in 2D background.

RivaTuner added 2x2 AA support for gf3(or above) since Detonator 4x.xx. Because NVIDIA's control panel will not show this old AA mode when using gf3(or above), 2x2 AA is hidden by default.

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ivalice · May 30th, 2004, 12:44

I thought there's a patch needed for users playing FFVII PC version with Geforce series card?

halohalo · May 30th, 2004, 17:49

NVIDIA fixed 8-bit paletted support emulation, so gf2 users and gf4mx users can play PC version without problem. Then RivaTuner makes it possible for gf3, gf4ti, and fx series to set 2x2 AA, so users of geforce series can enjoy the game with FSAA enabled.

You can find out more information about the issue from:
http://forums.qhimm.com/viewtopic.php?t=2670

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May 18th, 2004, 20:58	#2
AnimeMagic Registered User Join Date: Sep 2003 Location: Holland Posts: 171	i have ati radeon9200se and when i want to play the pc version of the game it just stops __________________ heelo

May 18th, 2004, 23:43	#3
hushypushy the only one you've ever SEEN Join Date: May 2003 Location: San Francisco Posts: 21,979	well it ran fine on my TNT2 m64, that was the last time i played it __________________ Dedicated to mediocrity and repetition since 1994.

May 19th, 2004, 00:40	#4
Modem1 Ph33r teh hammy! Join Date: Jan 2004 Location: Near Seattle, WA Posts: 496	Runs fine on my Radeon 9000 Pro, even with the "ati" fix enabled. Heh heh. Going through both the PC and the PSX versions at the moment at the same time. I never freaking get tired of this game! - Modem __________________ Hiya! Windows XP Professional VLE MSI K8N Neo2 Motherboard Athlon 64 3500+ 2GB PC-3200 Dual Channel Ram (2X 1GB) 2X 160GB 7200 RPM HDD's (Raid-0) 2X 200GB 7200 SATA HDD's (Not raided...yet) GeForce 6800GT 256mb ViewSonic 19" LCD Comcast Cable Internet - Local servers downloading at about 850KB/sec. Handy.

May 19th, 2004, 04:30	#5
DaHumAn I feel old.... Join Date: Feb 2002 Location: NJ, USA Posts: 130	oh god i can never really play this game again, it took me forever to get all the materials for all magics and all that for every character, if i have to go thru it again i'd go crazy

May 19th, 2004, 19:24	#6
Mako Eyes Refrigerate after opening Join Date: Aug 2002 Location: Newfoundland, Canada. Posts: 1,369	Looks like we've got a cheater here . . . Using Aeris in the Gelnika I could never get the PC version working properly on my old ATi Rage 128 . . . That's like half the reason I got me a Voodoo3 3000. Nice pics BTW

May 19th, 2004, 20:41	#7
halohalo Registered User Join Date: Apr 2004 Location: Taiwan Posts: 68	Besides, it is also possible to use high-quality Cloud in battle mode. __________________ CPU:Athlon64 3800+(Venice) / Opteron 154 / Pentium Dual-Core E5300 OS :Win98se / Win98se & Win2000sp4 / Win98se & Win2000sp4 Mobo:GA-K8U-939 / GA-K8A480M-9 / GA-8I865PE775-G-RH(4.9) RAM :512MBx2 / 1GBx2 / 1GBx2 Video:GF6800GT/ X850XT / X800pro Audio:AW744pro / Audigy2 / Audigy2

May 19th, 2004, 21:09	#8
cooliscool Global Moderator Join Date: Jul 2001 Location: SC, USA Posts: 7,231	Wow, that model looks badass. How'd you do that? O.T - halohalo, how do you like that Tualatin / Asus TUSLC-2? __________________

May 19th, 2004, 21:27	#9
Vanit Heretic Join Date: Jan 2004 Location: Australia! Posts: 2,764	Must... have... model... My guess is its either a debug option for the PC version or he edited it himself... in which case he can't tease us like this so he has to give it out __________________ Click here to download my Sin and Punishment English translation.

May 19th, 2004, 21:51	#10
halohalo Registered User Join Date: Apr 2004 Location: Taiwan Posts: 68	Just download Dreakon's cloud-quality patch (cloudquality.zip) and apply the patch with LGP Tools 1.55. cloudquality.zip: http://forums.qhimm.com/viewtopic.php?t=2904&start=0 LGP Tools 1.55 (and ficedula.dll): http://ficedula.cjb.net/ Unzip cloudquality.zip to C:\Program Files\Square Soft, Inc\Final Fantasy VII\data\battle And you can find out the file ff7cloudquality.ffpatch. Make a backup of battle.lgp, then run LGP Tools 1.55. Choose Tools => Patches => Apply Patch. Apply ff7cloudquality.ffpatch and get high-quality Cloud in battle mode. ___________________ Well, compared with my old k6-2 400 + Asus TX97, the combination of Celeron 1.2Ghz + Tusl2-C is really faster. (Some people even use P3-S 1.4Ghz + Tusl2-C. But I can't afford it ) __________________ CPU:Athlon64 3800+(Venice) / Opteron 154 / Pentium Dual-Core E5300 OS :Win98se / Win98se & Win2000sp4 / Win98se & Win2000sp4 Mobo:GA-K8U-939 / GA-K8A480M-9 / GA-8I865PE775-G-RH(4.9) RAM :512MBx2 / 1GBx2 / 1GBx2 Video:GF6800GT/ X850XT / X800pro Audio:AW744pro / Audigy2 / Audigy2

May 20th, 2004, 00:37	#11
Raziel Beta Administrator Join Date: Apr 2001 Location: Nantes, France Posts: 6,272	Yeah, that model is the one you have when you fight sephiroth one vs one at the end, basically, I guess that with an Action Replay code it'd be possible too on PSOne. __________________ System Specs: OS: Windows 7 Ultimate x64 Edition CPU: Intel Core i7 2600k @ 4.5GHz Video Card: PNY GeForce GTX480 Motherboard: ASUS P8Z68 Deluxe RAM: 8GB OCZ XMS3 PC16000

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Mako Eyes Refrigerate after opening Join Date: Aug 2002 Location: Newfoundland, Canada. Posts: 1,369	Wow, I never noticed that before . . . that's pretty cool.

May 28th, 2004, 13:52	#13
ivalice Banned Join Date: May 2004 Posts: 109	cool...like that I'm not going to get the PS version of FFVII, but I will get the PC version!! anyway, I think my savage 2000 graphic card can support the high quality thingie, I suppose

May 28th, 2004, 14:43	#14
halohalo Registered User Join Date: Apr 2004 Location: Taiwan Posts: 68	NVIDIA's driver supports 8-bit paletted textures emulation, which makes it possible to enable FSAA mode without graphical glitches. For most modern video cards without 8-bit paletted textures support, like ATI's Radeon series, FSAA will cause graphical glitches. So I guess PS version will be a better choice than PC version, if you use savage 2000. __________________ CPU:Athlon64 3800+(Venice) / Opteron 154 / Pentium Dual-Core E5300 OS :Win98se / Win98se & Win2000sp4 / Win98se & Win2000sp4 Mobo:GA-K8U-939 / GA-K8A480M-9 / GA-8I865PE775-G-RH(4.9) RAM :512MBx2 / 1GBx2 / 1GBx2 Video:GF6800GT/ X850XT / X800pro Audio:AW744pro / Audigy2 / Audigy2

May 28th, 2004, 15:20	#15
Kane 邪魔ゎ指せない Join Date: Jan 2002 Location: Gosport, England Posts: 26,303	The FX series dropper the 8-bit palletised texures support, IIRC. __________________ >Site Live< Pop over to my site for help with setting up PSX emulators. Help for the Final Fantasies and other RPGs avalaible Celes: (Desktop) Phenom II X4, 4Gb DDR2, GeForce 8800 GTS 320Mb, 32Gb OCZ Vertex SSD, 500Gb RAID HDD, Windows 7 Home Premium Erika: (MCPC) Revo3610, Windows 7 Home Premium Kimiko: (Craptop) HP Mini 210

May 28th, 2004, 15:35	#16
halohalo Registered User Join Date: Apr 2004 Location: Taiwan Posts: 68	8-bit paletted textures support emulation is enabled by default. So geforce series(fx series included) will pass the test when running ff7config1.02. However, in order to enable 2x2 AA, RivaTuner is necessary. 2x2 AA is a hidden FSAA mode for new geforce chips (gf3, gf4ti, fx series). __________________ CPU:Athlon64 3800+(Venice) / Opteron 154 / Pentium Dual-Core E5300 OS :Win98se / Win98se & Win2000sp4 / Win98se & Win2000sp4 Mobo:GA-K8U-939 / GA-K8A480M-9 / GA-8I865PE775-G-RH(4.9) RAM :512MBx2 / 1GBx2 / 1GBx2 Video:GF6800GT/ X850XT / X800pro Audio:AW744pro / Audigy2 / Audigy2

May 28th, 2004, 15:46	#17
Kane 邪魔ゎ指せない Join Date: Jan 2002 Location: Gosport, England Posts: 26,303	It's just a supersampling mode, which will be identical to the old geForce/2 method of antialiasing. __________________ >Site Live< Pop over to my site for help with setting up PSX emulators. Help for the Final Fantasies and other RPGs avalaible Celes: (Desktop) Phenom II X4, 4Gb DDR2, GeForce 8800 GTS 320Mb, 32Gb OCZ Vertex SSD, 500Gb RAID HDD, Windows 7 Home Premium Erika: (MCPC) Revo3610, Windows 7 Home Premium Kimiko: (Craptop) HP Mini 210

May 28th, 2004, 16:35	#18
halohalo Registered User Join Date: Apr 2004 Location: Taiwan Posts: 68	Yes, that is why gf2 users can enable FSAA without grid-line glitches in 2D background. RivaTuner added 2x2 AA support for gf3(or above) since Detonator 4x.xx. Because NVIDIA's control panel will not show this old AA mode when using gf3(or above), 2x2 AA is hidden by default. __________________ CPU:Athlon64 3800+(Venice) / Opteron 154 / Pentium Dual-Core E5300 OS :Win98se / Win98se & Win2000sp4 / Win98se & Win2000sp4 Mobo:GA-K8U-939 / GA-K8A480M-9 / GA-8I865PE775-G-RH(4.9) RAM :512MBx2 / 1GBx2 / 1GBx2 Video:GF6800GT/ X850XT / X800pro Audio:AW744pro / Audigy2 / Audigy2

May 30th, 2004, 12:44	#19
ivalice Banned Join Date: May 2004 Posts: 109	I thought there's a patch needed for users playing FFVII PC version with Geforce series card?

May 30th, 2004, 17:49	#20
halohalo Registered User Join Date: Apr 2004 Location: Taiwan Posts: 68	NVIDIA fixed 8-bit paletted support emulation, so gf2 users and gf4mx users can play PC version without problem. Then RivaTuner makes it possible for gf3, gf4ti, and fx series to set 2x2 AA, so users of geforce series can enjoy the game with FSAA enabled. You can find out more information about the issue from: http://forums.qhimm.com/viewtopic.php?t=2670 __________________ CPU:Athlon64 3800+(Venice) / Opteron 154 / Pentium Dual-Core E5300 OS :Win98se / Win98se & Win2000sp4 / Win98se & Win2000sp4 Mobo:GA-K8U-939 / GA-K8A480M-9 / GA-8I865PE775-G-RH(4.9) RAM :512MBx2 / 1GBx2 / 1GBx2 Video:GF6800GT/ X850XT / X800pro Audio:AW744pro / Audigy2 / Audigy2