Newbie 5.1 Problems, with Logitech 640 and Turtle Beach Santa Cruz

stilz · May 4th, 2004, 02:28

Hello,
I've finally got my hands on a 5.1 setup, as titled suggested, the Turtle Beach Santa Cruz sound card and Logitech 640 5.1 speakers. I installed and setup everything, change the setting to the 5.1 in the sound card menu, and played a MP3...but the sound only came out from the two front channels. I get 4 channels when I play a video file say Naruto. Is that because those files only have data for so many channels?
Then I tested an APE file, still only two channels of sound. The weird thing though, is that I'm sure there are sounds that are missing, which I guess are suppose to come out from the other channels but don't.
Previously, I used two sets of independent speakers and tried the 4 channel setting with them, and the sounds come out from all 4. Is there anyway to set things up so the sounds come out from all channels despite its not being Dolby or 5.1 or whatever?
Apology for the wordiness, thank you for your help.

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bahamut_2006 · May 4th, 2004, 04:36

If your using Winamp (which you should be) you'll need a 5.1 output plugin for it to work correctly. I recommend KB 5.1 Channel, since it works perfect for me.

stilz · May 4th, 2004, 04:42

Thanks, I'll go fetch that right now. Will report back once I've tried it out.

edit: It works fine now, sound comes out from all channels

. I should've done a bit of research before I rushed to get the set. The two uses of 5.1 that I know of so far are:
*games, esp. FPS, that supports 5.1, so you can pinpoint location, etc.
*movies
Are there other advantages of owning a 5.1 set?
Oh and, I tried to play an MP3 file with Windows Media Player 9 (the long-forgotten) and it does 5.1 without plugins. Are there media players designed specifically for this purpose?

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**hushypushy** · May 4th, 2004, 06:13

i use my Z640s for a few things:

Dual Stereo...there's 2 lefts and 2 rights

for things like MP3s

4 Speaker Surround - older EAX games like CS

5.1 Surround
1. DVD movies (DTS and DD)
2. newer EAX games like Halo

that's about all i can think of off the top of my head.

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stilz · May 5th, 2004, 01:02

hushypushy: What do you use to listen to MP3s? Same setup with Winamp and the plugin?

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**hushypushy** · May 5th, 2004, 01:23

i just use Winamp by itself, and i use the KX drivers' (3rd party drivers, not the crapass Creative ones) mixer to duplicate the surround. i've never heard of the 5.1 plugin that bahamut_2006 mentioned

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bahamut_2006 · May 5th, 2004, 03:36

Yeah, Windows Media Player will play surround sound with no problem, but since I hate that thing, I looked for a Winamp plugin since I knew their had to be one. So I found that plugin, tried it out, and it works great for me. I dont see why anyone would use anything besides Winamp unless it was for like DVDs or something.

stilz · May 5th, 2004, 06:36

Generally I'm not a great fan of MS bundled software either. I've been using Winamp almost as long as I've known MP3. In this case though, WMP produces better sound than Winamp with the plugin, the clarity is better.

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KillerShots · May 5th, 2004, 12:54

Well, I finally got 5.1 audio out of my Audigy (I can do the speaker test and "center" is spoken). Previously, the best I could get out of it was 4 channels, because the Audigy digital 5.1 is broken with nobody working on fixing it. Anyways, going analog, I finally get 5.1, so I guess this works. Now I can actually hear what people are saying in games when they're directly in front of me instead of trying to lip-read due to the center channel not functioning

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May 4th, 2004, 02:28	#1
stilz Registered User Join Date: Jul 2002 Location: Ngemu? Posts: 608	Newbie 5.1 Problems, with Logitech 640 and Turtle Beach Santa Cruz Hello, I've finally got my hands on a 5.1 setup, as titled suggested, the Turtle Beach Santa Cruz sound card and Logitech 640 5.1 speakers. I installed and setup everything, change the setting to the 5.1 in the sound card menu, and played a MP3...but the sound only came out from the two front channels. I get 4 channels when I play a video file say Naruto. Is that because those files only have data for so many channels? Then I tested an APE file, still only two channels of sound. The weird thing though, is that I'm sure there are sounds that are missing, which I guess are suppose to come out from the other channels but don't. Previously, I used two sets of independent speakers and tried the 4 channel setting with them, and the sounds come out from all 4. Is there anyway to set things up so the sounds come out from all channels despite its not being Dolby or 5.1 or whatever? Apology for the wordiness, thank you for your help. __________________ To all emulator authors and contributors: without your hard work, we'd be without many hours of enjoyment and unable to relive fond memories of childhood. Thank you.

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May 4th, 2004, 04:36	#2
bahamut_2006 Registered User Join Date: May 2002 Location: . Posts: 780	If your using Winamp (which you should be) you'll need a 5.1 output plugin for it to work correctly. I recommend KB 5.1 Channel, since it works perfect for me. __________________ Primary rig: AMD Athlon 64 X2 5600 (2.8 Ghz) Windsor core\|2 GB Corsair DDR 800 ram\|Abit AN52 Mobo\|512 MB ATI HD 3850\|Primary HD: 300 GB Seagate\| Secondary HD 300 GB Maxtor\|Antec Nine Hundred case w/550w Antec PSU\|19" Sceptre LCD\|Runnin on Windows XP Pro SP2

May 4th, 2004, 04:42	#3
stilz Registered User Join Date: Jul 2002 Location: Ngemu? Posts: 608	Thanks, I'll go fetch that right now. Will report back once I've tried it out. edit: It works fine now, sound comes out from all channels . I should've done a bit of research before I rushed to get the set. The two uses of 5.1 that I know of so far are: games, esp. FPS, that supports 5.1, so you can pinpoint location, etc. movies Are there other advantages of owning a 5.1 set? Oh and, I tried to play an MP3 file with Windows Media Player 9 (the long-forgotten) and it does 5.1 without plugins. Are there media players designed specifically for this purpose? __________________ To all emulator authors and contributors: without your hard work, we'd be without many hours of enjoyment and unable to relive fond memories of childhood. Thank you. Last edited by stilz; May 4th, 2004 at 05:12..

May 4th, 2004, 06:13	#4
hushypushy the only one you've ever SEEN Join Date: May 2003 Location: San Francisco Posts: 21,979	i use my Z640s for a few things: Dual Stereo...there's 2 lefts and 2 rights for things like MP3s 4 Speaker Surround - older EAX games like CS 5.1 Surround 1. DVD movies (DTS and DD) 2. newer EAX games like Halo that's about all i can think of off the top of my head. __________________ Dedicated to mediocrity and repetition since 1994.

May 5th, 2004, 01:02	#5
stilz Registered User Join Date: Jul 2002 Location: Ngemu? Posts: 608	hushypushy: What do you use to listen to MP3s? Same setup with Winamp and the plugin? __________________ To all emulator authors and contributors: without your hard work, we'd be without many hours of enjoyment and unable to relive fond memories of childhood. Thank you.

May 5th, 2004, 01:23	#6
hushypushy the only one you've ever SEEN Join Date: May 2003 Location: San Francisco Posts: 21,979	i just use Winamp by itself, and i use the KX drivers' (3rd party drivers, not the crapass Creative ones) mixer to duplicate the surround. i've never heard of the 5.1 plugin that bahamut_2006 mentioned __________________ Dedicated to mediocrity and repetition since 1994.

May 5th, 2004, 03:36	#7
bahamut_2006 Registered User Join Date: May 2002 Location: . Posts: 780	Yeah, Windows Media Player will play surround sound with no problem, but since I hate that thing, I looked for a Winamp plugin since I knew their had to be one. So I found that plugin, tried it out, and it works great for me. I dont see why anyone would use anything besides Winamp unless it was for like DVDs or something. __________________ Primary rig: AMD Athlon 64 X2 5600 (2.8 Ghz) Windsor core\|2 GB Corsair DDR 800 ram\|Abit AN52 Mobo\|512 MB ATI HD 3850\|Primary HD: 300 GB Seagate\| Secondary HD 300 GB Maxtor\|Antec Nine Hundred case w/550w Antec PSU\|19" Sceptre LCD\|Runnin on Windows XP Pro SP2

May 5th, 2004, 06:36	#8
stilz Registered User Join Date: Jul 2002 Location: Ngemu? Posts: 608	Generally I'm not a great fan of MS bundled software either. I've been using Winamp almost as long as I've known MP3. In this case though, WMP produces better sound than Winamp with the plugin, the clarity is better. __________________ To all emulator authors and contributors: without your hard work, we'd be without many hours of enjoyment and unable to relive fond memories of childhood. Thank you.

May 5th, 2004, 12:54	#9
KillerShots War Games coder Join Date: Apr 2001 Location: Florida Posts: 1,927	Well, I *finally* got 5.1 audio out of my Audigy (I can do the speaker test and "center" is spoken). Previously, the best I could get out of it was 4 channels, because the Audigy digital 5.1 is broken with nobody working on fixing it. Anyways, going analog, I finally get 5.1, so I guess this works. Now I can actually hear what people are saying in games when they're directly in front of me instead of trying to lip-read due to the center channel not functioning . __________________ Primary CPU: Athlon 64 X2 4400+ Mobo: Biostar N4SLI-A9 RAM: 2G Crucial (DDR400) Video: eVGA GeForce 7900 GTX (512M) Audio: HDA X-Mystique HD(s): Maxtor 300G SATA2, Samsung 400G SATA2 OS(s): WinXP x64 Pro, Vista x32 Ultimate, Gentoo x64 Monitor(s): Primary - 19" Flat Panel (1280x1024) Secondary - 19" Flat Panel (1280x1024) Tertiary - Zenith 42" Plasma TV (1024x768 res) Many other machines... sig too short