I've bought Final Fantasy X-2 Paine's sword!!

[ivalice]

of course, I didn't buy from ebay; bought it from a store nearby from my house. $6.90 SGD...quite expensive and rather heavy too

[Katsuya]

Wow... now thats cool. what is it made out of?

[ivalice]

not sure, I didn;t ask anyway..think it's steel since it's heavy(I mean high density)

[MaZa]

I bet its Stainless Steel. So in the other words, its wallhanger only. Cut something with it and it breaks apart. Stainless Steel is baaaad for swords.

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[Katsuya]

Yeah, carbon steel is what a good sword is made with.

Oh, and ivalice, your sig is too big. (it can't be over 20-30K)

[ivalice]

I'm not using it to cut something or anything like that..

[Tori-Yama]

sure Katsuya, although its not meant to cut something with it

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[FLaRe85]

Cool sword. I have a highlander.

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Oh, and ivalice, your sig is too big. (it can't be over 20-30K)

He's right. Your sig is huge. You need to reduce the filesize.

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[Katsuya]

Originally Posted by Tori-Yama

sure Katsuya, although its not meant to cut something with it

What?

(Do you mean carbon steel. or the sward he purchased?)

[MaZa]

I think he means that FF sword.

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[Tori-Yama]

Well, no sword should be used to cut something anymore, isn't it?

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[MaZa]

We are talking about test cuttings, or "tameshigiri" and such. The thing that kendo/iaido practitioners do. Cutting waterbottles, rolled bamboo mats, wet newspapers and such. Its dangerous to cut anything with stainless steel swords cuz they are brittle and almost all of them have rat-tail tang that breaks very easily.

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[Tori-Yama]

Hmm, carbon steel is dangerous as well, if you can't handle the sword of course.

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[Takmadeus]

Yeah, carbon steel is what a good sword is made with.

Oh, and ivalice, your sig is too big. (it can't be over 20-30K)

erm.... stainless steel is an alloy of iron and carbon

the best material for blades and such is tungsten steel... it is an alloy of iron and tungsten (unlike stainless steel)

every sword will shatter if treated improperly.... the bad thing about decorative swords is not their "propension to shatter" (which actually does not exist) but its dimensions... normally it is quite hard to handle a decorative sword give the thickness of the blade and the wieght of the sword.... a well sharpened sword can cut stuff if you have a proper technique, of course that there are many things involved in the sharpening of one (like the material used, and the technique used to sharpen it... as a bad sharpened sword distemples the blade and makes it quite fragile)

Currently I have a Jiang Chiang (chinese long sword)... I'll post some pics one of these days

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[MaZa]

Yes, but it wont shatter to pieces so badly. If you are lucky it just bends and twists so badly that it will just destroy to sword. With bad luck you end up cutting your leg. There are many young teenagers who have watched too much anime, and buy some ebay chinese fake stainless steel katana and try to cut backyards three inch thick tree and end up having steel shrads under their skin or, if unlucky, eye. Or blade flying out of handle penetrating something or someone...

erm.... stainless steel is an alloy of iron and carbon

No, its mixture of Chrome and Carbon steel, and chrome makes it brittle. Normal carbon steel is best for swords, but you have to oil it from time to time or it rusts... And also its vulnerable to acids which make it rust too or blues the steel.

Iron rusts and steel rusts, so mixing them wont do any good. Chrome doesnt rust so mixing it with steel will make it more rust resistant, but at the cost of strenght...

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[Katsuya]

Originally Posted by Takmadeus

erm.... stainless steel is an alloy of iron and carbon

the best material for blades and such is tungsten steel... it is an alloy of iron and tungsten (unlike stainless steel)

Regardless, stainless steel will always be inferior to carbon steel in combat, training or an exhibition match.

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[Takmadeus]

Yes, but it wont shatter to pieces so badly. If you are lucky it just bends and twists so badly that it will just destroy to sword. With bad luck you end up cutting your leg. There are many young teenagers who have watched too much anime, and buy some ebay chinese fake stainless steel katana and try to cut backyards three inch thick tree and end up having steel shrads under their skin or, if unlucky, eye. Or blade flying out of handle penetrating something or someone...

that's when the technique comes into play.... one must be quite ignorant if planning to cut a log with a sword..... (too much Rurouni Kenshin perhaps?) when someone tells me something like that, I tell him or her: "welcome to the real world, where swords shatter and cannot cut steel like in the movies "

I have my sword tuned up (I asked a friend to retemple i for me) and even if it has no edge (it is a blunt sword), it still as its tip, which is enough as to get through a person (as a piercing weapon, it is its purpose, not that I would do something like that, of course )

actually a decorative sword is better at combat if kept blunt, because the thinkness of the blade makes it resistant when delivering attacks

Regardless, stainless steel will always be inferior to carbon steel in combat, training or an exhibition match.

again, carbon steel is the same steel, just that is not stainless. so in practice, they are the same.... obviously there is a difference and it is given in the fraction of the steel (degree of carbon per degree of iron), the facy is that blades with more iron are more resistant, but blades with more steel make sharper blades.... so that's why the correct balance between those is needed

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[Katsuya]

Originally Posted by MaZa

No, its mixture of Chrome and Carbon steel, and chrome makes it brittle. Normal carbon steel is best for swords, but you have to oil it from time to time or it rusts... And also its vulnerable to acids which make it rust too or blues the steel.

Correct! If possible the sword should be kept at relatively constant temperature and humidity. A thin coat of a light, non-acidic lubricating oil is all that is needed. Sword supply shops sell a special oil, Choji oil. It protects well and has a nice aroma.

Also never touch the blade with your bare hands (if you do you must clean it immediately)

Originally Posted by Takmadeus

that's when the technique comes into play.... one must be quite ignorant if planning to cut a log with a sword.....

I've seen blades cut down whole trees. It must be to professionally sharpened and made with extreme quality. A sword like that will coast you a small fortune.

(You also have to know how to handle such a blade if you do something like that.)

[RZetlin]

How large and long is this sword?

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[Takmadeus]

I've seen blades cut down whole trees. It must be to professionally sharpened and made with extreme quality. A sword like that will coast you a small fortune.

(You also have to know how to handle such a blade if you do something like that.)

hmmm now that you say it.... perhaps it uses tungsten steel... t makes blades quite resistant... as for the Choji oil... I would like to get some... it is a shame that it isn't aquirable here in my country

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