Good PCI VideoCards

Shadow_Caster · August 31st, 2001, 23:24

hi. Quick question. im using an incredibly crappy intel 810e chipset w/ no agp port. which pci card should I invest in?

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**Betamax** · August 31st, 2001, 23:50

I'd go for a geforce 2 mx.

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Shadow_Caster · September 1st, 2001, 00:40

WHAT???? Geforce 2 mx is a PCI video card!?!?!?!?! Dude, are u serious!??!? I thought The geforce was strictly AGP

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**Zephon** · September 1st, 2001, 01:05

I never heard about a geforce2 pci either. I would try a Voodoo5 PCI.

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rio · September 1st, 2001, 01:33

yes, there is some GeForce/GeForce 2MX with PCI interface

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**Demigod** · September 1st, 2001, 01:47

I'd go for the Voodoo 4 PCI. A Voodoo 5 on a PCI is a complete waste, I don't know why 3Dfx even made it.

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Shadow_Caster · September 1st, 2001, 02:22

Thanx beta. actually there are some geforce2 pci cards, but they cost over 120us dollars, and thats too much for me. Ive decided on a tnt2m64 pci videocard. its a nice 32 bit video card, and my pc doesnt need much more for psx emulation. I have a PIII w/ 256RAM, all I needed was a decent video card, cos my stupid intel motherboard i stole from school dont have a agp slot. Damn school. cant spend good money on motherboards

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Kenshin · September 1st, 2001, 07:12

Is there a significant difference between the voodoo 4 and the voodoo 5? I never hear anyone mention the voodoo 4. Also which of the following three video cards is best. Geforce 2 mx, ati radeon3D 32MB SDRAM or a voodoo 5?

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**Demigod** · September 1st, 2001, 17:03

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Originally posted by Kenshin
Is there a significant difference between the voodoo 4 and the voodoo 5? I never hear anyone mention the voodoo 4. Also which of the following three video cards is best. Geforce 2 mx, ati radeon3D 32MB SDRAM or a voodoo 5?

The Voodoo 4 is the value variant of the Voodoo 5. They both use the same VSA-100 chip but the Voodoo 5 has two of them, thereby, doubling its speed(and also doubling its memory requirements).

The fastest of the 3 cards would have to be the Voodoo 5. The GeForce 2 MX is a value card, about equal in speed to the Voodoo 4, and the Radeon card you mentioned only has SDRAM, which isn't very fast compared to the Voodoo 5 `SLI' memory.

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**Demigod** · September 1st, 2001, 17:16

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Originally posted by Shadow_Caster
hi. Quick question. im using an incredibly crappy intel 810e chipset w/ no agp port. which pci card should I invest in?

I just remembered something about the i810 chipset. I think it actually forces the computer to use the built-in video. I don't think it can use another video card or it will still use the built-in video even if another video card is available. I'm not entirely sure but I remember reading about this `feature' somewhere. I don't know how multi-monitor support would work on it though.

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404 · September 1st, 2001, 17:41

What Card is the best at the moment, compiled from gamers worldwide,

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Shadow_Caster · September 1st, 2001, 21:48

WTF???!?!?!?! How can that be possible! Im never gonna steal another motherboard from school again! Im emailing intel about this right away! i cant believe they would do such a thing though. If this is indeed true, im selling my machine and buying an athlon w a gigabyte chpset. Stupid intel crap...... good for nothing....... sigh....

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**Demigod** · September 1st, 2001, 23:36

I don't know why they even put built-in video into motherboards. Most of them utterly suck and most people end up getting another video card of their choice anyways. I think they're built to be value boards or something. The upcoming Geforce-based chipsets may be interesting, but it's generally a good idea to stay away from such boards. The Intel i815 chipsets also have built-in video but on those boards you can disable it by plugging in another videocard.

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Phuzzi · September 2nd, 2001, 01:44

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Originally posted by Demigod79
I'd go for the Voodoo 4 PCI. A Voodoo 5 on a PCI is a complete waste, I don't know why 3Dfx even made it.

V5 PCI is barely slower than the AGP varient, for reasons unique to the way it's implemented. Read up on your facts.

Phuzzi · September 2nd, 2001, 01:46

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Originally posted by Demigod79

The fastest of the 3 cards would have to be the Voodoo 5. The GeForce 2 MX is a value card, about equal in speed to the Voodoo 4, and the Radeon card you mentioned only has SDRAM, which isn't very fast compared to the Voodoo 5 `SLI' memory.

GF2MX owns V4 really quite badly. Radeon, even with SDRAM, beats out a V5 consistently. Also, the memory on the V5 isn't 'SLI'd as you like to put it. SLI is merely used to describe the way the two chips interact to render scenes (in fact, it's not quite accurate with the method v5 uses, but everyone remembers it from v2, so 3dfx stuck with it).

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n0estoy · September 2nd, 2001, 08:26

lol, how'd u manage to steal a motherboard. are the tech guys at your school absolute morons or something?

**fivefeet8** · September 2nd, 2001, 08:40

A voodoo 5 isn't a waste.. I would love to get one even though I have a voodoo 5 5500 agp already.. The benchmarks show that the voodoo5 pci is only a small fraction slower than the voodoo 5 agp.. The v5 pci's are more expensive than the v5 agps too.. I would love to have the fastest glide video card on my pci, then get the fastest ogl and d3d card on my agp.. (geforce3)..

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September 2nd, 2001, 18:31

Thanks for the link 404. I checked out the "hall of fame" and was impressed, but not surprised, w/what I saw. This makes me even more happy to be the "proud" owner of an excellent GEForce 2 GTS card.
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Shadow_Caster · September 3rd, 2001, 00:57

Hehehe. I stole the card at night. I was playing basketball w/some friends at school, and I decided to pay the tech room a visit. There was no one in the room, and a shpment o those boards was sitting on the floor. there were hundreds of em. I just took one and tucked it into my backpack. sneaky eh?

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**Demigod** · September 3rd, 2001, 04:01

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Originally posted by Phuzzi

V5 PCI is barely slower than the AGP varient, for reasons unique to the way it's implemented. Read up on your facts.

Heh, looks like there's still lots of room left on the PCI bus. I wonder when AGP will finally show its edge. I just think they marketed the product wrong. The Voodoo 5 was targeted at the high-end gamer's market but most gamers I know won't even look at PCI videocards, but I guess it's a good solution for the very few minority of gamers who don't have an AGP slot. I dunno, I just don't get 3Dfx's strategy there.

Some interesting benchmarks between the Voodoo 4 and the Geforce 2 MX. http://firingsquad.gamers.com/hardwa...00/default.asp
The GeForce 2 MX pulls ahead in almost all the normal tests, but takes a back seat for the FSAA tests. The Voodoo 4, the perfect low-end solution for FSAA?

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Shadow_Caster Registered User Join Date: Jul 2001 Location: Santo domingo, Dominican republic Posts: 52	Good PCI VideoCards hi. Quick question. im using an incredibly crappy intel 810e chipset w/ no agp port. which pci card should I invest in? __________________ -Why is there a goldfish swimming in my case?

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August 31st, 2001, 23:50	#2
Betamax Resident Movie Critic Join Date: Apr 2001 Location: Belfast, Northern Ireland Posts: 9,506	I'd go for a geforce 2 mx. __________________ Superior marketing of an inferior product will always win over inferior marketing of a superior product.

September 1st, 2001, 00:40	#3
Shadow_Caster Registered User Join Date: Jul 2001 Location: Santo domingo, Dominican republic Posts: 52	WHAT???? Geforce 2 mx is a PCI video card!?!?!?!?! Dude, are u serious!??!? I thought The geforce was strictly AGP __________________ -Why is there a goldfish swimming in my case?

September 1st, 2001, 01:05	#4
Zephon Key To The Universe Join Date: Jul 2001 Location: Stratosphere Posts: 2,712	I never heard about a geforce2 pci either. I would try a Voodoo5 PCI. __________________ But there is someone who remembers you Someone waiting for a sign that leads the way to you There is someone who will die for you Keep that in mind when the hope fails

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rio Registered User Join Date: May 2001 Location: my locked room, watch some ... Posts: 168	yes, there is some GeForce/GeForce 2MX with PCI interface __________________ wait a minute :sad:

September 1st, 2001, 01:47	#6
Demigod これはバタスです Join Date: Jun 2001 Location: Toronto, Ontario, Canada Posts: 6,331	I'd go for the Voodoo 4 PCI. A Voodoo 5 on a PCI is a complete waste, I don't know why 3Dfx even made it. __________________ CPU: Intel Core 2 Quad Q9450 Mobo: Intel DX48BT2 Memory: 4096 MB PC10600 DDR3 Videocard: PNY Geforce 9800 GX2 Soundcard: On-board SigmaTel High Definition Audio Hard drive: 120 GB OCZ RevoDrive PCI-E SSD & 1 TB Hitachi Optical drive: LG GGW-H20L (2x BD-R DL) PSU: Nexus 1000 Watt PSU OS: Microsoft Windows 7 Ultimate (64-bit) Proud millionaire folder of the NGEmu folding team

September 1st, 2001, 02:22	#7
Shadow_Caster Registered User Join Date: Jul 2001 Location: Santo domingo, Dominican republic Posts: 52	Thanx beta. actually there are some geforce2 pci cards, but they cost over 120us dollars, and thats too much for me. Ive decided on a tnt2m64 pci videocard. its a nice 32 bit video card, and my pc doesnt need much more for psx emulation. I have a PIII w/ 256RAM, all I needed was a decent video card, cos my stupid intel motherboard i stole from school dont have a agp slot. Damn school. cant spend good money on motherboards __________________ -Why is there a goldfish swimming in my case?

September 1st, 2001, 07:12	#8
Kenshin Registered User Join Date: Apr 2001 Location: Canada Posts: 29	Is there a significant difference between the voodoo 4 and the voodoo 5? I never hear anyone mention the voodoo 4. Also which of the following three video cards is best. Geforce 2 mx, ati radeon3D 32MB SDRAM or a voodoo 5? Last edited by Kenshin; September 1st, 2001 at 07:18..

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404 Ultraman Agent Join Date: May 2001 Location: 0101001111010110101001 Posts: 680	What Card is the best at the moment, compiled from gamers worldwide, Graphic Card Hall of Fame - at MadOnion.com __________________ = hah hah hah! I'm back! not! = --- Last edited by 404 on 09-09-99 at 06:66 AM

September 1st, 2001, 21:48	#12
Shadow_Caster Registered User Join Date: Jul 2001 Location: Santo domingo, Dominican republic Posts: 52	WTF???!?!?!?! How can that be possible! Im never gonna steal another motherboard from school again! Im emailing intel about this right away! i cant believe they would do such a thing though. If this is indeed true, im selling my machine and buying an athlon w a gigabyte chpset. Stupid intel crap...... good for nothing....... sigh.... __________________ -Why is there a goldfish swimming in my case?

September 1st, 2001, 23:36	#13
Demigod これはバタスです Join Date: Jun 2001 Location: Toronto, Ontario, Canada Posts: 6,331	I don't know why they even put built-in video into motherboards. Most of them utterly suck and most people end up getting another video card of their choice anyways. I think they're built to be value boards or something. The upcoming Geforce-based chipsets may be interesting, but it's generally a good idea to stay away from such boards. The Intel i815 chipsets also have built-in video but on those boards you can disable it by plugging in another videocard. __________________ CPU: Intel Core 2 Quad Q9450 Mobo: Intel DX48BT2 Memory: 4096 MB PC10600 DDR3 Videocard: PNY Geforce 9800 GX2 Soundcard: On-board SigmaTel High Definition Audio Hard drive: 120 GB OCZ RevoDrive PCI-E SSD & 1 TB Hitachi Optical drive: LG GGW-H20L (2x BD-R DL) PSU: Nexus 1000 Watt PSU OS: Microsoft Windows 7 Ultimate (64-bit) Proud millionaire folder of the NGEmu folding team

September 2nd, 2001, 08:26	#16
n0estoy old-timer Join Date: Apr 2001 Location: texas Posts: 1,319	lol, how'd u manage to steal a motherboard. are the tech guys at your school absolute morons or something?

September 2nd, 2001, 08:40	#17
fivefeet8 &-)---\|--< Join Date: Apr 2001 Location: Smallville Posts: 8,058	A voodoo 5 isn't a waste.. I would love to get one even though I have a voodoo 5 5500 agp already.. The benchmarks show that the voodoo5 pci is only a small fraction slower than the voodoo 5 agp.. The v5 pci's are more expensive than the v5 agps too.. I would love to have the fastest glide video card on my pci, then get the fastest ogl and d3d card on my agp.. (geforce3).. __________________ Play emulated games online Main Rig\|\|Intel i7 2600k @4.4 ghz\|2x4 gb DDR3 1600\|Asrock Extreme7 Gen3\|EVGA GTX670 2GB\|EVGA GTX460 PhysX\|2x Seagate 160gb SATA150 Raid0\|250 gb Samsung SATA2 HD\| OCZ 240GB SSD SATA3 \|NEC 3520 4x/8x DVD+R/RW DL burner\|Rosewill 1000 Watt\|40" Sony Bravia 1080p\|Logitec 5.1 Speaker System w/10" Sub\|Windows 7 64bit Ultimate\|\| SimplyBuyIt - Health&Nutrition

September 2nd, 2001, 18:31	#18
sxamiga Guest Posts: n/a	Thanks for the link 404. I checked out the "hall of fame" and was impressed, but not surprised, w/what I saw. This makes me even more happy to be the "proud" owner of an excellent GEForce 2 GTS card. sincerely, sx/amiga

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Shadow_Caster Registered User Join Date: Jul 2001 Location: Santo domingo, Dominican republic Posts: 52	Hehehe. I stole the card at night. I was playing basketball w/some friends at school, and I decided to pay the tech room a visit. There was no one in the room, and a shpment o those boards was sitting on the floor. there were hundreds of em. I just took one and tucked it into my backpack. sneaky eh? __________________ -Why is there a goldfish swimming in my case?