3dfx and ATI

hnayoung · November 29th, 2003, 21:41

Hi I recently bought an ATI Radeon 9800 Pro to replace my aging 3dfx Voodoo5 5500 PCI but I was wondering can you keep both cards in the same computer without having conflicts and problems? It would be nice since I love my voodoo card for emulation.

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**Demigod** · November 29th, 2003, 21:49

I would imagine so, although you'd need to reboot and reconfigure the BIOS to use the other. I've had problems with my Voodoo 2 before on my Radeon cards though (both the 9000 and 9500) so I'm a little hesitant about combining 3Dfx cards with ATI ones.

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**fivefeet8** · November 29th, 2003, 23:33

You can keep both the Voodoo 5 pci and the Ati agp in the computer at the same time. I did with my Geforce fx and V5 pci. Quad displays anyone?

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**Kane** · November 30th, 2003, 01:56

You don't need to play with the BIOS in WindowsXP, Demigod. All you need to do is to assign the primary display in Display properties.

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Neo_ZX · November 30th, 2003, 12:10

Everytime I hear 3dfx and Voodoo I start to remember how well my Voodoo3 2000 treated me. A lot of the time I think to myself - I wish they would make more PCI video cards that could work with another PCI/AGP card to increase bandwidth/processing capacity. Remeber the old Voodoo2? It'd be complex I imagine (especially PCI+AGP). but it'd definetly be cool!

Ahh too bad there probably isn't enough profit to make putting good GPUs on PCI cards. Then again maybe if they use their partially functional or value GPUs as expansion upgrade cards it might be worthwhile. It's a bit crazy but I think it'd be funky and nostalgic. Good for the enthusiast crowd.

Violineb · December 1st, 2003, 01:00

There just isn't enough bandwidth on the PCI bus to bother with anything faster anymore. Simply put 133MB/sec vs 2GB/sec isn't really a comparison anymore

Hmm Voodoo, darn I need a 5500 PCI so bad. They're not easy to find

even on Ebay.

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Neo_ZX · December 1st, 2003, 01:39

"There just isn't enough bandwidth on the PCI bus to bother with anything faster anymore. Simply put 133MB/sec vs 2GB/sec isn't really a comparison anymore "

What if I had 5 PCI slots and I filled up all 5 with PCI Video card upgrades + a Radeon 9800 XT? That's 2GB+133MBx5!!!

Violineb · December 1st, 2003, 05:16

Ummm the TOTAL bandwidth of the PCI BUS is 133mb/sec

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Noxious Ninja · December 1st, 2003, 19:20

Quote:

Originally Posted by fivefeet8

You can keep both the Voodoo 5 pci and the Ati agp in the computer at the same time. I did with my Geforce fx and V5 pci. Quad displays anyone?

Whoa... quad displays? You mean you managed to both

a) find a Mac V5 with a DVI port and
b) successfully flash it with a PC V5 BIOS?

I was thinking of doing that, but I wasn't sure if the DVI port would work with the PC BIOS.

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**Kane** · December 2nd, 2003, 16:37

Quote:

I was thinking of doing that, but I wasn't sure if the DVI port would work with the PC BIOS.

It won't

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Noxious Ninja · December 2nd, 2003, 21:42

Quote:

Originally Posted by Kane-Sama

It won't

OK, I'm confused. How would fivefeet8 get quad displays, then?

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**Kane** · December 3rd, 2003, 00:51

Maybe the geForce FX 5950 can do triple displays?

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**fivefeet8** · December 3rd, 2003, 01:34

Quote:

Originally Posted by Kane-Sama

Maybe the geForce FX 5950 can do triple displays?

Yeah.. The Geforce FX can do Triple displays. TV-out, digital out, analog out. Added to the Voodoo 5's and you get 4 displays. Of course 2 of the displays are twins. Hehe. I actually had 4 displays once. Now I'm down to 3.

BTW. I have a Fx5900, not a 5950. Although I have it overclocked past 5950 specs.

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Noxious Ninja · December 3rd, 2003, 01:44

Quote:

Originally Posted by fivefeet8

Yeah.. The Geforce FX can do Triple displays. TV-out, digital out, analog out.

Ah, I see. Thanks.

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Esturk · December 3rd, 2003, 04:04

Quote:

Originally Posted by Violineb

Hmm Voodoo, darn I need a 5500 PCI so bad. They're not easy to find

even on Ebay.

I was lucky enough to get my 5500 AGP for $40 canadian at a local flea market. You can't beat that price now can you?

I must be really lucky eh?

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Noxious Ninja · December 3rd, 2003, 04:46

Quote:

Originally Posted by Violineb

Hmm Voodoo, darn I need a 5500 PCI so bad. They're not easy to find

even on Ebay.

http://search.ebay.com/search/search...odoo%205%20pci

There's usually 2 or 3 at any given time.

If I can ever find a model with 5.5ns RAM, I'll sell you my current one.

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Violineb · December 3rd, 2003, 07:55

hmm so as usual the cards came with two different ram chip types? How typical. What were the speeds 6ns and 5.5? 6 being the common and less overclockable?

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Noxious Ninja · December 4th, 2003, 01:51

Quote:

Originally Posted by Violineb

hmm so as usual the cards came with two different ram chip types? How typical. What were the speeds 6ns and 5.5? 6 being the common and less overclockable?

Supposedly. I have never actually seen one. :P

Unfortuantely, half of the people I email on eBay asking for port numbers off of RAM chips never reply.

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Player-X · December 6th, 2003, 18:08

*remembers previous cards*

The Vodoo1 served me well as ell as The GF4 Ti4200 Served me and now I wonder what can I really do with my Radeon9600Pro

November 29th, 2003, 21:41	#1
hnayoung Surfer Dude Join Date: Apr 2002 Location: The Beach Posts: 195	3dfx and ATI Hi I recently bought an ATI Radeon 9800 Pro to replace my aging 3dfx Voodoo5 5500 PCI but I was wondering can you keep both cards in the same computer without having conflicts and problems? It would be nice since I love my voodoo card for emulation. __________________ "What's wrong with taking care of a woman, she takes care of you" System Specs - Asus P4PE mobo, P4 2.53 GHz, 1024 MB DDR 333 PC 2700 ram, Sound Blaster Audigy 2 Platinum, 80 GB Maxtor Diamond Max Plus 9 7200 rpm HD, 160 GB Western Digital Caviar, Antec True Power 430 Watt PSU, Chieftec Dragon Case with Clear Side Panel, ATI Radeon 9800, Cendyne 48x16x48 CD-RW, LG 16x DVD-Burner, Hitachi 17" Gamer's LCD Monitor, Asus TV Tuner Card

November 29th, 2003, 21:49	#2
Demigod これはバタスです Join Date: Jun 2001 Location: Toronto, Ontario, Canada Posts: 6,332	Re: 3dfx and ATI I would imagine so, although you'd need to reboot and reconfigure the BIOS to use the other. I've had problems with my Voodoo 2 before on my Radeon cards though (both the 9000 and 9500) so I'm a little hesitant about combining 3Dfx cards with ATI ones. __________________ CPU: Intel Core 2 Quad Q9450 Mobo: Intel DX48BT2 Memory: 4096 MB PC10600 DDR3 Videocard: PNY Geforce 9800 GX2 Soundcard: On-board SigmaTel High Definition Audio Hard drive: 120 GB OCZ RevoDrive PCI-E SSD & 1 TB Hitachi Optical drive: LG GGW-H20L (2x BD-R DL) PSU: Nexus 1000 Watt PSU OS: Microsoft Windows 7 Ultimate (64-bit) Proud millionaire folder of the NGEmu folding team

November 29th, 2003, 23:33	#3
fivefeet8 &-)---\|--< Join Date: Apr 2001 Location: Smallville Posts: 8,058	Re: 3dfx and ATI You can keep both the Voodoo 5 pci and the Ati agp in the computer at the same time. I did with my Geforce fx and V5 pci. Quad displays anyone? __________________ Play emulated games online Main Rig\|\|Intel i7 2600k @4.4 ghz\|2x4 gb DDR3 1600\|Asrock Extreme7 Gen3\|EVGA GTX670 2GB\|EVGA GTX460 PhysX\|2x Seagate 160gb SATA150 Raid0\|250 gb Samsung SATA2 HD\| OCZ 240GB SSD SATA3 \|NEC 3520 4x/8x DVD+R/RW DL burner\|Rosewill 1000 Watt\|40" Sony Bravia 1080p\|Logitec 5.1 Speaker System w/10" Sub\|Windows 7 64bit Ultimate\|\| SimplyBuyIt - Health&Nutrition

November 30th, 2003, 01:56	#4
Kane 邪魔ゎ指せない Join Date: Jan 2002 Location: Gosport, England Posts: 26,303	Re: 3dfx and ATI You don't need to play with the BIOS in WindowsXP, Demigod. All you need to do is to assign the primary display in Display properties. __________________ >Site Live< Pop over to my site for help with setting up PSX emulators. Help for the Final Fantasies and other RPGs avalaible Celes: (Desktop) Phenom II X4, 4Gb DDR2, GeForce 8800 GTS 320Mb, 32Gb OCZ Vertex SSD, 500Gb RAID HDD, Windows 7 Home Premium Erika: (MCPC) Revo3610, Windows 7 Home Premium Kimiko: (Craptop) HP Mini 210

November 30th, 2003, 12:10	#5
Neo_ZX Registered User Join Date: Apr 2001 Posts: 186	Re: 3dfx and ATI Everytime I hear 3dfx and Voodoo I start to remember how well my Voodoo3 2000 treated me. A lot of the time I think to myself - I wish they would make more PCI video cards that could work with another PCI/AGP card to increase bandwidth/processing capacity. Remeber the old Voodoo2? It'd be complex I imagine (especially PCI+AGP). but it'd definetly be cool! Ahh too bad there probably isn't enough profit to make putting good GPUs on PCI cards. Then again maybe if they use their partially functional or value GPUs as expansion upgrade cards it might be worthwhile. It's a bit crazy but I think it'd be funky and nostalgic. Good for the enthusiast crowd.

December 1st, 2003, 01:00	#6
Violineb Study>Bton/Live>Bmore Join Date: Dec 2002 Location: Bloomington, IN/Baltimore MD Posts: 1,353	Re: 3dfx and ATI There just isn't enough bandwidth on the PCI bus to bother with anything faster anymore. Simply put 133MB/sec vs 2GB/sec isn't really a comparison anymore Hmm Voodoo, darn I need a 5500 PCI so bad. They're not easy to find even on Ebay. __________________ PC1: CPU: Pentium 4 3.06 ghz - GeForce 4200 ti - 2x 256MB PC 1066 RDRAM - 120+160GB Western Digital JB PC2: Abit NF7-S -AMD Athlon XP 1700+- 2x 256MB PC2700 Kingston HyperX BH-5 chips!!!! Western Digital 120GB JB GeForce3 Laptop: Sony Vaio VGN-S360 :guitar: 3DFX Voodoo 5500 PCI-Sega Dreamcast May 1999

December 1st, 2003, 01:39	#7
Neo_ZX Registered User Join Date: Apr 2001 Posts: 186	Re: 3dfx and ATI "There just isn't enough bandwidth on the PCI bus to bother with anything faster anymore. Simply put 133MB/sec vs 2GB/sec isn't really a comparison anymore " What if I had 5 PCI slots and I filled up all 5 with PCI Video card upgrades + a Radeon 9800 XT? That's 2GB+133MBx5!!!

December 1st, 2003, 05:16	#8
Violineb Study>Bton/Live>Bmore Join Date: Dec 2002 Location: Bloomington, IN/Baltimore MD Posts: 1,353	Re: 3dfx and ATI Ummm the TOTAL bandwidth of the PCI BUS is 133mb/sec Answer your question yet? __________________ PC1: CPU: Pentium 4 3.06 ghz - GeForce 4200 ti - 2x 256MB PC 1066 RDRAM - 120+160GB Western Digital JB PC2: Abit NF7-S -AMD Athlon XP 1700+- 2x 256MB PC2700 Kingston HyperX BH-5 chips!!!! Western Digital 120GB JB GeForce3 Laptop: Sony Vaio VGN-S360 :guitar: 3DFX Voodoo 5500 PCI-Sega Dreamcast May 1999

December 3rd, 2003, 00:51	#12
Kane 邪魔ゎ指せない Join Date: Jan 2002 Location: Gosport, England Posts: 26,303	Re: 3dfx and ATI Maybe the geForce FX 5950 can do triple displays? __________________ >Site Live< Pop over to my site for help with setting up PSX emulators. Help for the Final Fantasies and other RPGs avalaible Celes: (Desktop) Phenom II X4, 4Gb DDR2, GeForce 8800 GTS 320Mb, 32Gb OCZ Vertex SSD, 500Gb RAID HDD, Windows 7 Home Premium Erika: (MCPC) Revo3610, Windows 7 Home Premium Kimiko: (Craptop) HP Mini 210

December 3rd, 2003, 07:55	#17
Violineb Study>Bton/Live>Bmore Join Date: Dec 2002 Location: Bloomington, IN/Baltimore MD Posts: 1,353	Re: 3dfx and ATI hmm so as usual the cards came with two different ram chip types? How typical. What were the speeds 6ns and 5.5? 6 being the common and less overclockable? __________________ PC1: CPU: Pentium 4 3.06 ghz - GeForce 4200 ti - 2x 256MB PC 1066 RDRAM - 120+160GB Western Digital JB PC2: Abit NF7-S -AMD Athlon XP 1700+- 2x 256MB PC2700 Kingston HyperX BH-5 chips!!!! Western Digital 120GB JB GeForce3 Laptop: Sony Vaio VGN-S360 :guitar: 3DFX Voodoo 5500 PCI-Sega Dreamcast May 1999

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Player-X Banned Join Date: Apr 2002 Location: From Kuching in Malaysia now stuck in Houston Texas Posts: 9,111	Re: 3dfx and ATI remembers previous cards The Vodoo1 served me well as ell as The GF4 Ti4200 Served me and now I wonder what can I really do with my Radeon9600Pro

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