PS2 motion blur?

Takmadeus · October 24th, 2003, 08:39

hmmmm I have seen that there are some PS2 games that have motion blur (namely, MGS2 and GTA vice city)..... so, am I the only one around here that thinks that blur is ridiculously annoying?.... man.... it sure puts out most of the gameplay of those titles....

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Kazuya · October 24th, 2003, 10:05

In MGS2 it didnt bother me. It gave it more feeling. That if you are not playing it in pc (there sometimes seems like you say).

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**Razor Blade** · October 24th, 2003, 22:36

I really hate motion blur actually. It makes a game look silly. I think it was in a squaresoft game for psone. PE2 I believe when a monster would be following you. Anyways yea your not alonetakmadeus

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Takmadeus · October 25th, 2003, 01:25

hehe... I am glad to not to be the only victim of motion blur frustration.... man GTA: VC is horribly annoying with tht motion blur

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**fivefeet8** · October 25th, 2003, 01:31

I don't mind the motion blur as long as it's not used too much in actual gameplay. In ingame cutscenes it's cool though. Metal Gear Solid doesn't feel right without the motion blurs. Final Fantasy 9 summons used the blur to create cool effects like heat/light waves and stuff.

GTA3 is an example of having too much motion blurs in gameplay parts.

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carnage179 · October 25th, 2003, 01:38

what exactly is motion blur? what are some examples in MGS2 or vice city?

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**Razor Blade** · October 25th, 2003, 01:39

Yea I tried GTA3 on my pc in a demo and every time it did motion blur it would freeze. It can get very annoying sometimes.

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Takmadeus · October 25th, 2003, 01:49

okie... motino blur has to be used wisely (even my fav RPG -Legend of Dragoon- used it to emulate waves and heat) but nothing more than that..... its obvious how GTA:VC overuses it... man, every move in that game has a horrible motion blur....

as for MGS2, I don't think the motion blur is awful, yeah.... but it doesn't look great.... it would be good to be able to take it out just to check....... I am sure it would be good to know how it'd look, personally I liked how MGS solid snake looked (only blur in the stealth siuts)

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Kidd · October 25th, 2003, 02:26

I hate motion blur.. with a passion, I seriously would prefer a 300fps eye instead of this analogue **** we've got that gives out motion blur when you move our hand quickly in front of your face... it'd be better to see the hand detailed in a smooth 300fps motion... if anyone ever creates a camera to install in the eye or something similar, I'll be the first to get one ^_~x

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**Razor Blade** · October 25th, 2003, 02:32

One thing I really hate is the heat effects in GT3. Im sure they use a sense of motion blur for that. It pisses me off because instead of seeing your pretty car in replay you see a wavy car and cant make out detail.

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Takmadeus · October 25th, 2003, 06:09

hehe.... guys, put in your signatures:

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**fivefeet8** · October 25th, 2003, 08:17

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Originally Posted by Razor Blade

Yea I tried GTA3 on my pc in a demo and every time it did motion blur it would freeze. It can get very annoying sometimes.

That doesn't happen on my computer. The blurs don't freeze the game. It's just overused in that game.

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Originally Posted by takmadeus

as for MGS2, I don't think the motion blur is awful, yeah.... but it doesn't look great.... it would be good to be able to take it out just to check....... I am sure it would be good to know how it'd look, personally I liked how MGS solid snake looked (only blur in the stealth siuts)

MGS substance PC allows you to disable all motion blurs.

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**hushypushy** · October 25th, 2003, 08:37

i like motion blur; it's realistic. however when it goes beyond that (like the stunning overuse in GTA3) then it just sucks

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Kidd · October 25th, 2003, 09:03

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Originally Posted by hushypushy

i like motion blur; it's realistic.

Then join me in my quest to remove motion blur from your eyes, and you won't have to call that torment "realistic" anymore ^_~x

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**Razor Blade** · October 25th, 2003, 09:05

Gah! Realistic! Sheesh looks more like if you were to just wake up and open your eyes from a coma of 12 years.

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Ellios · October 25th, 2003, 09:45

Kidd... It's actually not your eyes that's causing the motion blur that we see but your visual cortex in the brain. Check this link out for an interesting read on the how's and why's

http://www.daniele.ch/school/30vs60/30vs60_3.html

**Razor Blade** · October 25th, 2003, 09:47

I liked this part. Its a good read actually.

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So what is the answer to how many frames per second should we be looking for? Anything over 60 fps is adequate, 72 fps is maximal (anything over that would be overkill). Framerates cannot drop though from that 72 fps, or we will start to see a degradation in the smoothness of the game. Don't get me wrong, it is not bad to play a game at 30 fps, it is fine, but to get the illusion of reality, you really need a frame rate of 72 fps. What this does is saturate the pipeline from your eyes to your visual cortex, just as reality does. As visual quality increases, it really becomes more important to keep frame rates high so we can get the most immersive feel possible. While we still may be several years away from photographic quality in 3D accelerators, it is important to keep the speed up there.
Looks like 3dfx isn't so full of it.

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ready2rumbelX · October 25th, 2003, 10:13

Interesting read indeed.

But, I don't mind motion blur. In fact, I like it. In MGS2 and FFX, it was used well.

As for GTA3, yes....the motion blur was used TOO much.

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Kazuya · October 25th, 2003, 11:25

Jesus, i borrowed GTA3 today and its really overused almost anoying. Still im thinking it looks good in MGS2 and Dino Crisis 2 (psone). Btw, is there a pc game only that uses it? I have only seen that in psone and 2 (and ports) making me think its a way to compensate to inability to make the game run faster some times (to give the idea of speed).

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**fivefeet8** · October 25th, 2003, 11:48

Quote:

Originally Posted by Kazuya Mishima

Btw, is there a pc game only that uses it?

There are few if any PC only games that use motion blurs at all. It's mostly the PC ports that uses it. It's a nice effect when used properly.

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October 24th, 2003, 08:39	#1
Takmadeus Translator Join Date: Oct 2001 Location: In real life Posts: 4,057	PS2 motion blur? hmmmm I have seen that there are some PS2 games that have motion blur (namely, MGS2 and GTA vice city)..... so, am I the only one around here that thinks that blur is ridiculously annoying?.... man.... it sure puts out most of the gameplay of those titles.... __________________ Made with the GIMP

October 24th, 2003, 10:05	#2
Kazuya The seeker of perfection Join Date: Oct 2001 Location: Suing somebody Posts: 3,628	Re: PS2 motion blur? In MGS2 it didnt bother me. It gave it more feeling. That if you are not playing it in pc (there sometimes seems like you say). __________________ PSN ID: solidandrey Visit my blog in Spanish: http://andreyirrasalazar.blogspot.com

October 24th, 2003, 22:36	#3
Razor Blade Locked and Loaded Join Date: Aug 2002 Location: I AM CANADIAN! Posts: 12,032	Re: PS2 motion blur? I really hate motion blur actually. It makes a game look silly. I think it was in a squaresoft game for psone. PE2 I believe when a monster would be following you. Anyways yea your not alonetakmadeus __________________ -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Core 2 Duo T7300 2.0 GHz ● NVIDIA GeForce 8400GS ● 2GB DDR2 RAM Hitachi 120GB HD ● Dual Layer DVD+/-RW Drive ● Windows Vista Home Premium ● Dell 2007WFP LCD ● Dell XPS M1330 Laptop ● 1TB Western Digital MyBook External HD ● Logitech Z10 Speakers ● PLAYSTATION 3 --------------------------------------------------------------------------------

October 25th, 2003, 01:25	#4
Takmadeus Translator Join Date: Oct 2001 Location: In real life Posts: 4,057	Re: PS2 motion blur? hehe... I am glad to not to be the only victim of motion blur frustration.... man GTA: VC is horribly annoying with tht motion blur __________________ Made with the GIMP

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fivefeet8 &-)---\|--< Join Date: Apr 2001 Location: Smallville Posts: 8,058	Re: PS2 motion blur? I don't mind the motion blur as long as it's not used too much in actual gameplay. In ingame cutscenes it's cool though. Metal Gear Solid doesn't feel right without the motion blurs. Final Fantasy 9 summons used the blur to create cool effects like heat/light waves and stuff. GTA3 is an example of having too much motion blurs in gameplay parts. __________________ Play emulated games online Main Rig\|\|Intel i7 2600k @4.4 ghz\|2x4 gb DDR3 1600\|Asrock Extreme7 Gen3\|EVGA GTX670 2GB\|EVGA GTX460 PhysX\|2x Seagate 160gb SATA150 Raid0\|250 gb Samsung SATA2 HD\| OCZ 240GB SSD SATA3 \|NEC 3520 4x/8x DVD+R/RW DL burner\|Rosewill 1000 Watt\|40" Sony Bravia 1080p\|Logitec 5.1 Speaker System w/10" Sub\|Windows 7 64bit Ultimate\|\| SimplyBuyIt - Health&Nutrition

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Razor Blade Locked and Loaded Join Date: Aug 2002 Location: I AM CANADIAN! Posts: 12,032	Re: PS2 motion blur? Yea I tried GTA3 on my pc in a demo and every time it did motion blur it would freeze. It can get very annoying sometimes. __________________ -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Core 2 Duo T7300 2.0 GHz ● NVIDIA GeForce 8400GS ● 2GB DDR2 RAM Hitachi 120GB HD ● Dual Layer DVD+/-RW Drive ● Windows Vista Home Premium ● Dell 2007WFP LCD ● Dell XPS M1330 Laptop ● 1TB Western Digital MyBook External HD ● Logitech Z10 Speakers ● PLAYSTATION 3 --------------------------------------------------------------------------------

October 25th, 2003, 01:49	#8
Takmadeus Translator Join Date: Oct 2001 Location: In real life Posts: 4,057	Re: PS2 motion blur? okie... motino blur has to be used wisely (even my fav RPG -Legend of Dragoon- used it to emulate waves and heat) but nothing more than that..... its obvious how GTA:VC overuses it... man, every move in that game has a horrible motion blur.... as for MGS2, I don't think the motion blur is awful, yeah.... but it doesn't look great.... it would be good to be able to take it out just to check....... I am sure it would be good to know how it'd look, personally I liked how MGS solid snake looked (only blur in the stealth siuts) __________________ Made with the GIMP

October 25th, 2003, 02:26	#9
Kidd Nii Yugito fangirl #1 Join Date: Aug 2001 Location: Sweden Posts: 1,333	Re: PS2 motion blur? I hate motion blur.. with a passion, I seriously would prefer a 300fps eye instead of this analogue **** we've got that gives out motion blur when you move our hand quickly in front of your face... it'd be better to see the hand detailed in a smooth 300fps motion... if anyone ever creates a camera to install in the eye or something similar, I'll be the first to get one ^_~x __________________ This is my sweet little ChunLi: [AMD Athlon 64 X2 @ 2800MHz] - [ASUS nVidia Geforce 8800GTS 320MB] - [2Gb 667MHz DDR2] - [Total of 750GB HD] Remember this, Proto, Elly...?

October 25th, 2003, 02:32	#10
Razor Blade Locked and Loaded Join Date: Aug 2002 Location: I AM CANADIAN! Posts: 12,032	Re: PS2 motion blur? One thing I really hate is the heat effects in GT3. Im sure they use a sense of motion blur for that. It pisses me off because instead of seeing your pretty car in replay you see a wavy car and cant make out detail. __________________ -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Core 2 Duo T7300 2.0 GHz ● NVIDIA GeForce 8400GS ● 2GB DDR2 RAM Hitachi 120GB HD ● Dual Layer DVD+/-RW Drive ● Windows Vista Home Premium ● Dell 2007WFP LCD ● Dell XPS M1330 Laptop ● 1TB Western Digital MyBook External HD ● Logitech Z10 Speakers ● PLAYSTATION 3 --------------------------------------------------------------------------------

October 25th, 2003, 06:09	#11
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October 25th, 2003, 08:37	#13
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October 25th, 2003, 09:45	#16
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