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Old October 2nd, 2003, 20:47   #1
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Your thoughts on: globalization

Economics is a flowing, yet stating thing. Flowing because its an always changing market, in the surface. Our economical system forces people to continusly change their strategies, to continuosly change their minds. Yet, it is static, because in the basis we are still trying the same structure that was invented millenia before, just with different flavours: trade something for other something-

This globalization method isnt new. It was tried and succeeded in nationalization, regionalization, and things like that. The good for a small community was sacrificed for the good of a bigger community

This is one of the basic ideas of globalization, to destroy frontiers so that the goals of a complete humanity are easier to achieve. To destroy the differences (different cultures included) so we become one that can achieve goals togheter-

This more or less sounds good, if you dont care too much about individuality. Yet, the bad part comes when choosing which will be the one culture we will transform into. Does it has to be a jack of all trades culture? While this woulf be equitative, many cultures costumes are contradictory, so we would have a somewhat unstable system.

Must it be the culture of the stronger? Why, if it has too many mistakes already that it cant hold togheter itself.

Can a culture be imposed upon others? Sure, it have been done countlessly times before, yet, never at a global scale. Would the effects be the same?

Well, now post your thoughts on globalization
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Old October 2nd, 2003, 20:55   #2
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meh, its stupid from the start. Since when people have the right to destroy other people's culture?

The problem is with the people themselves. They can simply live and understand other people's culture and background rather than imposing thier own ideas. Just because you think that your way of life is the best doesnt mean you can impose it on other. Its really funny to see the people who call for freedom of speech and ideals contradict themselves and introduce globalization.

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Old October 2nd, 2003, 21:00   #3
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Re: Your thoughts on: globalization

I agree with that, but you canr forget that this culture freedom also brings human division. We dont consider ourselves a global citizen, but rather someone from an specific country or culture. While this culture division is a freedom, its at the same time a barrier among us
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Old October 2nd, 2003, 21:10   #4
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Re: Your thoughts on: globalization

well what me think:

the rich gets richer and the poor get poorer
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Old October 2nd, 2003, 21:15   #5
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Well that happens with any economical system invented thus far... even globalized or regionalized
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thats why there are protest all ove the world...

well its actually better for developed countries... but taking advantage over 3rd world countries or underdeveloped country is too much for that country's local business... in a sense, you can call it slavery...
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I agree with that, but you canr forget that this culture freedom also brings human division. We dont consider ourselves a global citizen, but rather someone from an specific country or culture. While this culture division is a freedom, its at the same time a barrier among us
We humans are the same. We may differ in sex,complexion,size,culture, or whatever, but we are still the same. There shouldnt be any boundries between us from the first place. Its just a matter of respect to ther people's ideas,believes and looks. Issues such discrimination/rasicim or globalisation arise when people fail to respect each other and hold on to thier egos

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Old October 2nd, 2003, 22:26   #8
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Re: Your thoughts on: globalization

My thoughts on gobalization are as follows.... globalization is a weapon of mass destruction, make poor countries poor, and rich countries richer..... besides, in my case I live in a country victim of globalization, and thanks to it, everyday there are less jobs and my people is starving.... it is really sad that thanks to it, the president is busier licking Bush' feet and t¿does not think about our own problems....... massive firings are being done because the money they spend paying this employees (say teachers, doctors, etc, but no politicians) could be spent paying external debts.....which makes me really angry...
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Old October 2nd, 2003, 22:32   #9
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Well... as you I live in a country victim of globalization, after being a country who had more or less resisted USA goverment at least in the political area, we have had a series of presidents who has been kissing usa feet as well.

IMO, globalization could be a good idea, but the way its being implemented is awful
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same here tak... same here...
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Re: Your thoughts on: globalization

The idea of globalization is a good one. It shouldn't require that richer countries gets richer and poor countries get poorer if done correctly - I mean.. if it is made that way, then it ISN'T globalization anymore, then it's just indirect oppression.

Also, the culture issue is a hard one to tackle. Some cultures actually do die and convert into others by themselves, and that's the way it should be. Nobody has the right to force their beliefs or culture on someone else. And really - who is willing to give up everything they stand for just for globalization?
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Old October 3rd, 2003, 01:49   #12
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Here we have to balance what is more imporant. Human unity or to mantain the regional cultures and traditions. Obviously we cant have both, since globalization implies an universal culture and traditions put a barrier among us

IMO we have demonstrated how the good of the bigger community is more important thant the smaller, like in the process of villages, states, and countrie formation.

The clue here is to do it in a apacific and natural way, so we can lose the less possible, and make fewer damages. That's why I'm strongly against the focerd capitalist globalization the big rich countries are endorsing.
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Here we have to balance what is more imporant. Human unity or to mantain the regional cultures and traditions. Obviously we cant have both, since globalization implies an universal culture and traditions put a barrier among us
We can unify humankind without demolishing cultures. Understanding the background and believes of every ethical group will solve all misunderstandings, but if we go on and force a group of people to act/believe in the way we think its right will cause wars, dont you agree?

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Old October 3rd, 2003, 02:02   #14
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I would just like to clear one thing up Globalization does not make the poor countries poor and the rich aren't sucking these contries dry.
Look to there own leaders for the problem, its these people who spend what wealth they have and what money they are loaned on weapons and military forces instead of the people and the country's infrastructure.
Look at Zimbabwe, this country had a fantastic econemy and its people were all fed, then when the British left and its own people were put in charge they have proceeded to bleed the country for themselves, now for the first time in memory Zimbabwe is facing famine, the rich countries of the world didn't do it, they did it to themselves.

I am sorry if this rant has offended anyone but the First world is not always to blame for the problems in the Third
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Old October 3rd, 2003, 02:03   #15
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Yeah but there are some traditions that can reconciliete. For example ill put the indigenous people of my country that still survive these days

These little indigenous poblations believe in the valor of isolated community, they want to be left alone, aand they want to be a separate culture within our country. Yet, this goes against the nationalist unifyng proccess that many of us want, since these cultures want their own laws, which some of them go against some constitutional laws. (like some sharp discrimantiona towards women and the use of stupefacient) Obviously if we want to integrate them to the rest of the country we will lose our last living vestige of the indigenous people we once were, but if we don't the unyfing process will be halted, and internal minor struggles of other minor groups who also want their rights respected would surge.

Ok maybe im putting an extreme casa as an example but you get the idea

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I agree with you here, its NOT ONLY the first world fault, it also has with aour governemnts greed, and us people incapability to put barriers to our goverment. I agree wae cant go around and say that this person or this person or this acountrie has the fault for everything. By this im not forgiving USA goverment for what its done to us in anyway, but we also have to put the blame on us people on our incapbility
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Understanding the background and believes of every ethical group will solve all misunderstandings
yeah, but that will never happen. as long as there are different ethnic groups with different beliefs, there will be misunderstandings. its not hard to tolerate other groups, but understanding them is not something that most people care to do.
and, on top of background and beliefs, there's languages. that doesn't help communication between people either. how would you go around choosing the common language?
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yeah, but that will never happen. as long as there are different ethnic groups with different beliefs, there will be misunderstandings. its not hard to tolerate other groups, but understanding them is not something that most people care to do.
and, on top of background and beliefs, there's languages. that doesn't help communication between people either. how would you go around choosing the common language?
You have a point here. Most people dont even care learning about other cultures. As for the common langauge. I believe English is a common langauge itself. Its spoken worldwide and is the language of the internet. We for instance, who come from different countries and background speak english in NGEmu. Unless you are refering to some 3rd world countries which lack in educational capabilities, I dont think people have trouble communicating in english worldwide.

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Old October 3rd, 2003, 02:09   #18
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Well... chinese is already the language most spoken in the world

But i think alanguage is a minor problem, relatevily talking, compared to all the cultural issues that go behind it...
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Re: Your thoughts on: globalization

all together, in unity, don`t matter the language,
people from all the world, diferent races, i think i heard that somewhere else. ( The Book )
My POV,
What will happen to prices? there will be no major economical outcomes.
And the cultural barrier is big.
Politics, corruption, are anywhere, human always mess up things.
Religion, You know, too many differences, fanatism,
contradictory beliefs...

but benefits, global scale community, better comunication, better riches distribution( maybe)
medicines, information, tecnology will become more accesible to everyone...
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Actually, English is the language most people speak. Chinese is just the language most people use as their mother tongue. ^_~x English would do a good language, I guess - even though it's such a hard language.
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