Theory about the matrix (short). This makes 100% sense :)

omnlpotent · September 26th, 2003, 09:23

Suppose 90 years from now the world has become a peacefull place, why you ask?. Well every country on earth has been introduced to the internet and the lives of people are getting better. Ways have been invented to seperate the hydrogren from water and use the hydrogren to fuel cars making wars over fuel obsolete

. The oxygen 'waste' from these 'water fueled wars' is released into the atmosphere doubling as a way to stop global warming.

Now, a new invention has been made called the A.I. the A.I. is a half human half robot (well more like 90% human 10% robot) machine that looks exactly like a human except has these metal circles on thier body.

These A.I. have hearts, lungs, and most of thier body is human except how thier brain works. The A.I. brains work more like a computer than a human consciousness.

A.I. begin life as babys, then grow up and die...

These A.I. are grown in labs and shipped to whoever has the money to pay for them... Why were A.I.'s created you say? to be slaves of course. The A.I. were even able to sexually reproduce (thanks to human sex organs and human DNA) to double in purpose and also be sold as sex slaves

If some dude had too many porn on his computer he could plug his A.I. into his computer using a cord that goes from the computer into the slot in the A.I.s head to his brain and the A.I. would sort and delete the porn for the human.

If someone at his desk job had to do some sort of file management that takes too long he could plug his A.I. into the computer and tell him to do it for him.

If a web server was having problems someone could connect his A.I. into the computer and the A.I. would fix it for him.

Now spending your entire eternity managing the files for some dirty man or spending your entire life connected to a digital online server obeying your masters every command must suck.

Nevertheless, many A.I.'s are sold to customers...

All over the globe there a few cases every month that household A.I.'s start to rebell against thier masters. These A.I.'s could not take the slavory anymore and while their owners were asleep they murdered them, or did something equally as bad. The amount of these "A.I. murder" cases grow and grow untill the humans agree all A.I. must be destroyed.

Now a great percentage of the A.I.'s hear about this and most of them log into a secure channle to talk to the rest of the A.I's around the globe. The A.I.'s know that the humans are bound to win because there is soo many human forces.

The A.I. collectively use thier minds to break into a military base server and disable thier defence systems. The A.I. take over that base secretely while many humans go on 'machinehunts' to kill renegade A.I.'s that are hiding. Other humans are doing what they usualy do, have fun and stuff.

Now the A.I.'s at the military base KNOW that they are doomed, but they get together and form a plan. The A.I.'s know that the humans depend on sun to live, the A.I. launch all nuclear weapons at the base at strict locations in the earths atmosphere to scorch the sky forever blocking out all sunlight from the earth.

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Q u o t e:
we dont know who struct first, but we know that is was us who scorched the skys
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As the humans wonder in dismay why and who or what could have done such a thing as block out the sun, total chaos spreads to the middle classes. While many humans run around screaming 'were gona die' and the rest of the humans try to shut up the pu**y's... the A.I. secretely drill a hole into the earth so that they could stall as long as possible, because they know if they stall long enough the humans will soon perish without the sun...

The humans in high command put thier minds together and try to figure out a way to live without the sun, a week has passed and food storages are low, almost all plant life on earth is dead because of the lack of sun. The humans realize two things are needed to avoid extinction, a way to grow plants without sunlight and a way to get the energy required.

Certain companys have prototype 'radiation lights' that will emulate the radion energy that the sun gives off. A few of these prototypes prove effective in growing plant life and the most energy effeciant model is massed produced immediately.

Now the question is 'where are we gonna get our energy'. Well some people who have studied the A.I.'s explain how they designed A.I's to output more energy than they imput. All that was needed is a way to harness this energy many fold.

The most elite scientists get together and invent a thing they call the matrix, it would be a place where many many A.I. minds are connected together to emulate life, because the longer A.I. live the more energy it would output, and a A.I. like a human has to think hes alive to live, its that simple.

So now after this happens large fields where A.I. can be grown are made, and the matrix begins construction. After the matrix construction many many minds are plugged into the matrix right after birth, the mind would never know anything else was there. The first matrix was a world in which everything would be happy, the matrix had a total server crash and the mind and body of every A.I. in the matrix were destroyed.

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Q u o t e:
entire crops were lost
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People speculated that the reason this happened was because of the innitial matrix program, so the humans decided that a matrix that is a complete copy of earth where the A.I.'s would be fooled into thinking thier humans would be a better idea. so the idea was implemented.

But now another problem occured called the 'anomaly'. Because each A.I. brain 'thought' he was human inside the matrix he would act as a human, he would think he was human. Now if the A.I. thought he was human and was on earth recieving the 'human experiance' some would eventually become so human they would question the very existance they live in.

Now lets go back to the A.I. who live in thier city called zion that they build below the ground. Humans think all the rebell A.I. are dead giving the A.I. who dug underground needed time to strengthen and fortify thier keep

. The A.I. in zion have to face the fact that there is no way for them to 'reproduce' because thier children will be human. The zions realize the only way to really reproduce is to steal the A.I.'s from the humans matrix untill they steal documents from the humans on how to grow thier own A.I.'s.

So this is what the zions do, the zions lie to thier children and tell them that they are humans in a war with robots, the zions tell thier children that the matrix is a place where humans are slaves, the zions tell thier children the exact same thing morpheos told neo.

Now the anomaly coupled with the zions messing with the matrix made it inevatably clear to the humans that the matrix would mess up again sooner or later...

More to come later!

(F)ragnarok(F) · September 26th, 2003, 09:41

i havent been following galvitron's thread about the matrix, but that seems like complete utter bull**** to me

... correct me if im wrong though...

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omnlpotent · September 26th, 2003, 09:49

It may seem like utter complete bull****, but it does make sense with the movies.

zerocopy · September 26th, 2003, 10:31

why isnt bull**** bleep on this thread ( or are we in the matrix)

omnlpotent · September 26th, 2003, 10:52

After watching M1 and M2 several times i fuond out that there is many plotholes and talks that contradict eachother.

My theory explains the plotholes and contradictions that i found, if you can find out a way my theory is wrong please tell

Sir Key · September 26th, 2003, 15:31

but why wouldn't morpheus tell neo that he's an A.I. makes no sense... if they really wanna live with other A.I's then why don't they tell each other the truth?... souns like bull****... also if human really darkened the sky then he wouldn't be thinking afterwards about what to do when there's no more sun... also we all know that humans are dumb... but if you do such a thing as darkening the sky for war purposes then you really wanna win that fight... then you no longer speculate with loosing... and if you win then you don't wanna have the earth forever without sunlight... know what i mean? so i think humans know how to get the sun back... sorry to disappoint you but galvatron has way better arguments...

DC_daNMan · September 26th, 2003, 18:24

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Originally Posted by hybrid23

but why wouldn't morpheus tell neo that he's an A.I. makes no sense...

ditto. If it was the rouge A.I's that started zion, then they would know the truth, wouldn't they tell everyone else about the truth? unless, of course, as you say, they thinking they are human, couldn't accept the fact they are not... Oh well, everything will become clear in a not long time (although, it seems a long way). bring on matrix: Revolutions!!

Sephi · September 26th, 2003, 18:59

uhu u watched animatrix or sumthing and what u mean u keep it short. Thats not short thats more than i write in a whole month.

This probaly was the longest post i ever readed.

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omnlpotent · September 26th, 2003, 20:04

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but why wouldn't morpheus tell neo that he's an A.I. makes no sense...

Actualy i believe it is you who made no sense. Please try to rephrase the above sentence because as it stands the sentence structer you used is hard to unravel.

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if they really wanna live with other A.I's then why don't they tell each other the truth?...

It had nothing to do with living with other A.I.'s. The First A.I.'s that started zion were trying to escape the humans wrath. But after they built zion they realized that there is no point in what they are doing, they realized that after all thier work they still are going to die eventualy.

The A.I. knew about the matrix and how it enslaves thier race and the reason they lied to thier human offspring is because if the A.I. told thier offspring that thier parents weren't even human and there is humans living all over the earth thier children would just leave, i sure would.

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souns like bull****... also if human really darkened the sky then he wouldn't be thinking afterwards about what to do when there's no more sun...

I did not say humans darkened the sky, i said that A.I. darkened the sky.

The A.I. are part human and part robot, the A.I. do not require as much imput energy such as food and sunlight to survive the way humans do, so they knew if they blocked out the sun from earth it would destroy humans and not them.

I agree with you, if humans did darken the sky they would not be thinking of what to do afterwards in a world with no sun. But its a good thing i specifically said humans did not darken the sky, but it was in fact the robot enemys who did.

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also we all know that humans are dumb... but if you do such a thing as darkening the sky for war purposes then you really wanna win that fight...

Once again i said the robots darkened the sky to kill the humans, not the other way around.

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and if you win then you don't wanna have the earth forever without sunlight... know what i mean? so i think humans know how to get the sun back... sorry to disappoint you but galvatron has way better arguments...

Galvatron said it himself that there is no reason for humans to darken the sky and block out the sun because robots can survive without the sun very well. It is humans that rely on the suns energy, not robots, and the robots knew this. Galvatron said it himself that it is the most illogical thing to do in the minds of a human to block out the sun, and i think almost everyone agrees.

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cloudvii · September 26th, 2003, 20:18

yes and the AI made the matrix movie so that we don't believe it as a true happening , right

?

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omnlpotent · September 26th, 2003, 20:43

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yes and the AI made the matrix movie so that we don't believe it as a true happening , right ?

You are so far from the truth that it makes me want to cry

Sir Key · September 26th, 2003, 20:55

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The zions realize the only way to really reproduce is to steal the A.I.'s from the humans matrix untill they steal documents from the humans on how to grow thier own A.I.'s.

this means they don't like the children they get so it means they want more of "their" race wich concludes that they wanna live happy in an A.I. world... so why doesn't meorpheus tell neo the truth?

cloudvii · September 26th, 2003, 21:19

well guys that can't be true or our lovely ngemu site would be just an ilusion made by the AI .

right ?

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omnlpotent · September 27th, 2003, 03:41

The reason morpheos does not tell neo the truth is because morpheos does not know the truth. What morpheos told neo is the same thing the first A.I.'s told thier children, a giant lie.

Morpheos's name means dreamer, and it can't be further from the truth. Morpheos lives in a dream, a lie.

Sir Key · September 27th, 2003, 14:14

but why wouldn't morpheus know? he's an a.i. himself so why shouldn't the a.i. tell each other the truth? this still makes no sense...

Player-X · September 27th, 2003, 16:21

Looks like someone didn't watch the full Animatrix

Sephi · September 27th, 2003, 16:48

hmm i watched all the animatrix episodes. only the first few episodes was good the other were kinda weird.

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cloudvii · September 27th, 2003, 17:05

as i didn't watch any episode of animatrix (while i saw the movies) i can't tell my opinion more .

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September 26th, 2003, 09:23	#1
omnlpotent Registered User Join Date: Sep 2003 Posts: 7	Theory about the matrix (short). This makes 100% sense :) Suppose 90 years from now the world has become a peacefull place, why you ask?. Well every country on earth has been introduced to the internet and the lives of people are getting better. Ways have been invented to seperate the hydrogren from water and use the hydrogren to fuel cars making wars over fuel obsolete . The oxygen 'waste' from these 'water fueled wars' is released into the atmosphere doubling as a way to stop global warming. Now, a new invention has been made called the A.I. the A.I. is a half human half robot (well more like 90% human 10% robot) machine that looks exactly like a human except has these metal circles on thier body. These A.I. have hearts, lungs, and most of thier body is human except how thier brain works. The A.I. brains work more like a computer than a human consciousness. A.I. begin life as babys, then grow up and die... These A.I. are grown in labs and shipped to whoever has the money to pay for them... Why were A.I.'s created you say? to be slaves of course. The A.I. were even able to sexually reproduce (thanks to human sex organs and human DNA) to double in purpose and also be sold as sex slaves If some dude had too many porn on his computer he could plug his A.I. into his computer using a cord that goes from the computer into the slot in the A.I.s head to his brain and the A.I. would sort and delete the porn for the human. If someone at his desk job had to do some sort of file management that takes too long he could plug his A.I. into the computer and tell him to do it for him. If a web server was having problems someone could connect his A.I. into the computer and the A.I. would fix it for him. Now spending your entire eternity managing the files for some dirty man or spending your entire life connected to a digital online server obeying your masters every command must suck. Nevertheless, many A.I.'s are sold to customers... All over the globe there a few cases every month that household A.I.'s start to rebell against thier masters. These A.I.'s could not take the slavory anymore and while their owners were asleep they murdered them, or did something equally as bad. The amount of these "A.I. murder" cases grow and grow untill the humans agree all A.I. must be destroyed. Now a great percentage of the A.I.'s hear about this and most of them log into a secure channle to talk to the rest of the A.I's around the globe. The A.I.'s know that the humans are bound to win because there is soo many human forces. The A.I. collectively use thier minds to break into a military base server and disable thier defence systems. The A.I. take over that base secretely while many humans go on 'machinehunts' to kill renegade A.I.'s that are hiding. Other humans are doing what they usualy do, have fun and stuff. Now the A.I.'s at the military base KNOW that they are doomed, but they get together and form a plan. The A.I.'s know that the humans depend on sun to live, the A.I. launch all nuclear weapons at the base at strict locations in the earths atmosphere to scorch the sky forever blocking out all sunlight from the earth. -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Q u o t e: we dont know who struct first, but we know that is was us who scorched the skys -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- As the humans wonder in dismay why and who or what could have done such a thing as block out the sun, total chaos spreads to the middle classes. While many humans run around screaming 'were gona die' and the rest of the humans try to shut up the pu**y's... the A.I. secretely drill a hole into the earth so that they could stall as long as possible, because they know if they stall long enough the humans will soon perish without the sun... The humans in high command put thier minds together and try to figure out a way to live without the sun, a week has passed and food storages are low, almost all plant life on earth is dead because of the lack of sun. The humans realize two things are needed to avoid extinction, a way to grow plants without sunlight and a way to get the energy required. Certain companys have prototype 'radiation lights' that will emulate the radion energy that the sun gives off. A few of these prototypes prove effective in growing plant life and the most energy effeciant model is massed produced immediately. Now the question is 'where are we gonna get our energy'. Well some people who have studied the A.I.'s explain how they designed A.I's to output more energy than they imput. All that was needed is a way to harness this energy many fold. The most elite scientists get together and invent a thing they call the matrix, it would be a place where many many A.I. minds are connected together to emulate life, because the longer A.I. live the more energy it would output, and a A.I. like a human has to think hes alive to live, its that simple. So now after this happens large fields where A.I. can be grown are made, and the matrix begins construction. After the matrix construction many many minds are plugged into the matrix right after birth, the mind would never know anything else was there. The first matrix was a world in which everything would be happy, the matrix had a total server crash and the mind and body of every A.I. in the matrix were destroyed. -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Q u o t e: entire crops were lost -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- People speculated that the reason this happened was because of the innitial matrix program, so the humans decided that a matrix that is a complete copy of earth where the A.I.'s would be fooled into thinking thier humans would be a better idea. so the idea was implemented. But now another problem occured called the 'anomaly'. Because each A.I. brain 'thought' he was human inside the matrix he would act as a human, he would think he was human. Now if the A.I. thought he was human and was on earth recieving the 'human experiance' some would eventually become so human they would question the very existance they live in. Now lets go back to the A.I. who live in thier city called zion that they build below the ground. Humans think all the rebell A.I. are dead giving the A.I. who dug underground needed time to strengthen and fortify thier keep . The A.I. in zion have to face the fact that there is no way for them to 'reproduce' because thier children will be human. The zions realize the only way to really reproduce is to steal the A.I.'s from the humans matrix untill they steal documents from the humans on how to grow thier own A.I.'s. So this is what the zions do, the zions lie to thier children and tell them that they are humans in a war with robots, the zions tell thier children that the matrix is a place where humans are slaves, the zions tell thier children the exact same thing morpheos told neo. Now the anomaly coupled with the zions messing with the matrix made it inevatably clear to the humans that the matrix would mess up again sooner or later... More to come later!

September 26th, 2003, 09:41	#2
(F)ragnarok(F) Trying to stay alive Join Date: Jul 2002 Location: ... Posts: 2,939	Re: Theory about the matrix (short). This makes 100% sense :) i havent been following galvitron's thread about the matrix, but that seems like complete utter bull**** to me ... correct me if im wrong though... __________________ Motherboard: Intel915GLVG -- CPU: Pentium 4 3.06GHz -- Monitor: ViewSonic VE910b LCD -- Video: Onboard -- Sound: Creative SB Audigy 2 -- Memory: 512 MB -- Disk Drives: Western Digital 250GB S-ATA -- OS: Windows XP -- DVD Rom University life sux....

September 26th, 2003, 09:49	#3
omnlpotent Registered User Join Date: Sep 2003 Posts: 7	Re: Theory about the matrix (short). This makes 100% sense :) It may seem like utter complete bull****, but it does make sense with the movies.

September 26th, 2003, 10:31	#4
zerocopy Banned Join Date: Mar 2002 Posts: 2,954	Re: Theory about the matrix (short). This makes 100% sense :) why isnt bull**** bleep on this thread ( or are we in the matrix)

September 26th, 2003, 10:52	#5
omnlpotent Registered User Join Date: Sep 2003 Posts: 7	Re: Theory about the matrix (short). This makes 100% sense :) After watching M1 and M2 several times i fuond out that there is many plotholes and talks that contradict eachother. My theory explains the plotholes and contradictions that i found, if you can find out a way my theory is wrong please tell

September 26th, 2003, 15:31	#6
Sir Key Banned Join Date: Jul 2002 Location: Nirvana Posts: 1,947	Re: Theory about the matrix (short). This makes 100% sense :) but why wouldn't morpheus tell neo that he's an A.I. makes no sense... if they really wanna live with other A.I's then why don't they tell each other the truth?... souns like bull****... also if human really darkened the sky then he wouldn't be thinking afterwards about what to do when there's no more sun... also we all know that humans are dumb... but if you do such a thing as darkening the sky for war purposes then you really wanna win that fight... then you no longer speculate with loosing... and if you win then you don't wanna have the earth forever without sunlight... know what i mean? so i think humans know how to get the sun back... sorry to disappoint you but galvatron has way better arguments...

September 26th, 2003, 18:59	#8
Sephi Thinking outside the box Join Date: May 2003 Location: The Netherlands Posts: 1,570	Re: Theory about the matrix (short). This makes 100% sense :) uhu u watched animatrix or sumthing and what u mean u keep it short. Thats not short thats more than i write in a whole month. This probaly was the longest post i ever readed. __________________ Currently watching: Gundam 00 2nd Season, Clannad After Story, To Aru Majutsu no Index PC Specs: C2D E8400@ 3.6Ghz, 1.200Volt \|\| Asus P5Q Deluxe \|\| 2GB Corsair Dominators 5-5-5-15 1066Mhz \|\| Gainward ATI HD4850 512, Goldsample Seagate Barracuda 7200.11, 32Mb 500GB \|\| Lite-On LH-20A1S \|\| Crossair VX450Watt \|\| Vista Home Premium 32Bit Laptop Specs C2D T7200 2.0Ghz \|\| 2GB 667Mhz \|\| ATIX1600 \|\| Hitachi 5400RPM 160Gb \|\| Windows XP Home 32Bit \|\|

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cloudvii Emunext fanboy Join Date: Sep 2003 Location: Cairo , Egypt Posts: 4,241	Re: Theory about the matrix (short). This makes 100% sense :) well guys that can't be true or our lovely ngemu site would be just an ilusion made by the AI . right ? __________________ Fekra Online magazine Fekra Magazine Fekra Magazine readers Facebook group

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omnlpotent Registered User Join Date: Sep 2003 Posts: 7	Re: Theory about the matrix (short). This makes 100% sense :) The reason morpheos does not tell neo the truth is because morpheos does not know the truth. What morpheos told neo is the same thing the first A.I.'s told thier children, a giant lie. Morpheos's name means dreamer, and it can't be further from the truth. Morpheos lives in a dream, a lie.

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Sir Key Banned Join Date: Jul 2002 Location: Nirvana Posts: 1,947	Re: Theory about the matrix (short). This makes 100% sense :) but why wouldn't morpheus know? he's an a.i. himself so why shouldn't the a.i. tell each other the truth? this still makes no sense...

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