Blocking is cheap.

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moley> cheap people? hehe
Frost-Inferno> block block block
moley> I didn't realize blocking was cheap
Frost-Inferno> its not
moley> hehe
Frost-Inferno> but when u do it every other second it is
moley> so then.. blocking is cheap
moley> by your standards
Frost-Inferno> no but to much is
moley> so too much blocking is cheap
moley> hahaah
Frost-Inferno> like wut u do, block block block attack speciall block block block block
moley> so I should let you hit me?
Frost-Inferno> naw but do u see me blocking constantly?
moley> hehe
moley> how would I win if all I did was block
moley> blocking is essential to playing..
moley> until you learn that..
moley> your gonna lose alot
Frost-Inferno> i said u block for ever attack once, knock me down special so i cant block and go back to blocking
moley> and there are ways around blocking
moley> have you really become accustomed to people letting you hit them,
moley> hehe
Frost-Inferno> naw cauase i dont play cheap ppl
Frost-Inferno> hehe
moley> cheap is so subjective
moley> how about I don't block and still win?
moley> would that be not cheap?
Frost-Inferno> no its ok i dont wanna play u
Frost-Inferno> its not fun attack a brick wall
moley> how much blocking is cheap in your view
* Frost-Inferno left the partyline (Normal client exit). - END QUOTE

After I beat him easily in MvC online. I've had people call me cheap in fighting games before, but this one is just too funny.

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Last edited by fivefeet8; August 30th, 2003 at 01:32..

[Yeloazndevil]

lmao, its just blocking

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[fivefeet8]

Some of the kaillera user's cry "cheap" when I vism their power bar to 30% with one V-combo in sfa3. Infact, this one guy said I was using some sort of cheats on the game to allow me to hit him after I had won. In sfa3, you have a small amount of time after the winning hit to continue a few more hits. Guess he didn't know that. He told me he had been playing sfa3 for years.

This other person got so mad at my v-ism tactics, he refused to ever play me again. Everytime I join the same server he's on to play sfa3, he leaves. (very quitely).

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[Strider]

hah, blocking cheap? thats such a pathetic excuse.. hmm, i should play you in sfa3 sometimes, you'll probably win but that would atleast be a change from yeloazndevil

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[Yeloazndevil]

Originally Posted by Strider

hah, blocking cheap? thats such a pathetic excuse.. hmm, i should play you in sfa3 sometimes, you'll probably win but that would atleast be a change from yeloazndevil

shut up Strider

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[fivefeet8]

Originally Posted by Strider

hah, blocking cheap? thats such a pathetic excuse.. hmm, i should play you in sfa3 sometimes, you'll probably win but that would atleast be a change from yeloazndevil

If your close to the west coast US, find me on the west coast servers. We'll play sometimes. I also get some people who swears I'm using macros. Which of course I don't. I guess because I can do Zangiefs 360's and 720's so well, it scares them. But I've been playing Gief(and winning) since sf2 so.. :guitar:

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[Strider]

oh crap a good zangief player i live in east coast canada, i guess it would be easier just to set up a game on msn huh

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I live on the west coast, and I suck using Zangief

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well, he could throw you even if you are blocking, so thats not an excuse,....its a matter of experience and smarts

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not to mention all those moves that can trick a person whos blocking, eg with akuma do the forward flipping kick (forward plus middle kick) or the downward chop (forward plus middle punch) or if hes standing up just trip him etc

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[ShadowDancer]

I seriously want to play you. I'm not that good, but I'm fairly good... I guess. I really haven't played a person one-on-one in a long time and I used to do it a lot in the early '90s when Street Fighter II came out. I was one of those annoying ass kids who used to get their butts kicked but kept on putting quarters in. I just wanna compare skills.

[Boltzmann]

I would like to play against you, but my ping is too high
Not that I'm good or anything, it's just for fun

BTW, I've seen people crying "cheap" on Kaillera - but never because of blocking

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[zerocopy]

blocking is lame they should take that out of MvC, they should also take out punching and kicking as it seems to lower your players hp and dont get me started on their fireballs those should also be taken out. Limits are also devastating this can be critical even when your already on the virge of winning (it can turn the game around quickly) i mean come on. Jumping should also be gone the sounds of players jumping can cause imemdiate diffeciency attention causing me to lose the game, dont forget RYU! his fireballs and uppercuts are too much and ken too, take those players out. They can take down any players i use at em, BLocking only proves that i can win by just holding the back button no matter what

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[Yeloazndevil]

Originally Posted by zerocopy

blocking is lame they should take that out of MvC, they should also take out punching and kicking as it seems to lower your players hp and dont get me started on their fireballs those should also be taken out. Limits are also devastating this can be critical even when your already on the virge of winning (it can turn the game around quickly) i mean come on. Jumping should also be gone the sounds of players jumping can cause imemdiate diffeciency attention causing me to lose the game, dont forget RYU! his fireballs and uppercuts are too much and ken too, take those players out. They can take out any players i use at em, BLocking only proves that i can win by just holding the back button no matter what

then go play Street Fighter 3 they have no blocking just parrying (SP?)

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[DB7]

While a habitual blocker can be called cheap I think its more boring than anything and doesn't make for a interesting fight.
By far the most cheap is the button basher who just hits everything on the control pad.

[zerocopy]

you have something against button mashers! F U punk.

[DB7]

Just that it is extremely boring to fight against a button masher.
My brother is one and used to beat me regular as clockwork on Marvel Superheroes on the Saturn, that was until I gave up trying to fight fair and just zapped him with Cyclop's optic blast from a distance.
Another cheap player is one who will just use one move over and over again, like the afore mentioned optic blast, Ryu's Fireball or Wolverine's Drill Claw.

Ps Yes I love Capcom's Marvel games.

[zerocopy]

button mashing requires skills and mastery of fast pushing button barrels, the timing must be right to perform non intended attacks, winning by not knowing nothing is very gratifying. Heck! i can play blindfolded with my mashing technique

[fivefeet8]

Originally Posted by DB7

While a habitual blocker can be called cheap I think its more boring than anything and doesn't make for a interesting fight.
By far the most cheap is the button basher who just hits everything on the control pad.

Button mashing only gets you so far. True players can beat that tactic easily without the need to resort to boring keep away tactices. As for habitual blockers, there are ways around blocks. Throwing for instance. In a game like SFa3 where there is a block bar, turtling is not a good tactic. I can't count how many times I've broken block bars in sfa3 leaving the opponent wide open for a painful combo. Sometimes breaking the block bars twice in one round.

As for players who use the same move over and over, there isn't a move that doesn't have a way around it.

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I personally agree with zerocopy - button mashing is a fine and sophisticated art that many practice but few have mastered. The secret is in the randomness of the button mashing - even the most experienced player will be caught off guard when a totally unorthodox (and as such), unexpected atack gets through their "perfect defense" and leaves them crying in the dirt, that expensive "arcade pro" quarter bag hanging empty at their side.

And as he said - winning by not knowing anything but how to press as many buttons as quickly and randomly as possible can be extremely satisfying - especially when the opposition has spent untold hours (not to mention quarters!) "training" at the arcade game in question in order to be able to beat anyone stupid enough to voice a challenge.

Plus - playing blindfolded is a great party trick that will net you lots of free beer (no, 40s of Olde English are not accepted here!), and the attention of all the ladies. Who could ask for more?
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