OpenGL + 1964 = Nothing but a crash

Andrew Hruska · March 16th, 2003, 03:30

Like the title says, i cannot get 1964 and OpenGL to cooperate. glNintendo64() and Rice's Daedulus do not work on 1964! Can anyone help (and it isn't bad ROMS, because all my roms work with Jabo's plugin)

felinusz · March 16th, 2003, 18:02

Have you tried Jabo's OpenGL plugin?

**Zephon** · March 16th, 2003, 19:30

I see you're using Detonator 43.00 drivers with your TNT2. Since it's a somehow old card, it's recommended that you stick yo some older drivers (I think that 2x.xx should be fine, maybe someone else with a TNT2 can tell you better which driver to use). The latest Detonators offer absolutely no improvements to a TNT2, it's being developed focusing on the Geforce cards.

Anyway, you can always use a D3D plugin.

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Andrew Hruska · March 16th, 2003, 20:13

My friend reccomended 30.82, so i am using that now. And, i still cannot get OpenGL to work. I haven't tried Jabo's OpenGL (i never heard of it

)
Maybe i need to mess around with the settings, or just stick with
Jabo's DirectX6 1.5?

felinusz · March 17th, 2003, 19:51

Well, OpenGL isn't any better (or worse) than D3D, so you may as well just use D3D (most people do anyways and most people find it works 'better' [note the use of the " around better

] )

Andrew Hruska · March 17th, 2003, 20:02

ok.. what directX plugin would you suggest for my roms, maybe another plugin will be faster? :confused:
And should I try overclocking my TNT2 to 160/160?
(i'm sorta new to n64 emulation.)

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felinusz · March 18th, 2003, 15:06

Quote:

Originally posted by nicedude455
.....what directX plugin would you suggest for my roms, maybe another plugin will be faster? :confused:
And should I try overclocking my TNT2 to 160/160?.....

Well, I use Jabo's D3D 1.5 myself for most of my ROMs, I find that it works with most games quite well and has great compatibility.

For Paper Mario, Donkey Kong 64, Banjo-Kazooie, and Mario Kart 64 I use Glide64 0.31 (with evoodoo

) as it negates errors that I get whith these games (DK64, B-K, MarioKart = HUGE FPS problems, PAper Mario = Flicker Problem) when using any other plugins.

For sound I use Azimer's 0.40 audio and Jabo's DSound, depending on the game.

As for your TnT2, I wouldn't clock it too high (what are the default values?) as I find that it really hits performance more than improving it. I think my GeForce 2 (garbage) MX 400 is up by a safe 10% (not that it actually makes that big of a speed increase

)

Quote:

Originally posted by nicedude455
.....(i'm sorta new to n64 emulation.).....

Good luck to you and welcome aboard!!

P.S. Nice ROM collection.

Andrew Hruska · March 18th, 2003, 15:35

The Defaults are 125/143, and i can overclock to 160/160.
Where can i get Glide and eVoodoo? And thank you for the nice comment about my ROM collection! I Own all those games, too ( except for a few

) And, i don't have any flickering in Paper Mario & Jabo's DX6 1.5. It's the only game i have that runs at full speed, also.

And i really want a better vid card!

Andrew Hruska · March 18th, 2003, 16:22

I found Glide64 and eVoodoo on my own. I CAN REALLY TELL THE DIFFERERNCE! Tony Hawk's Pro Skater, ran at FULL SPEED, with perfect audio! But the FPS is falsely reporting. It says it runs about 20fps, when it runs at full speed. Majoras Mask, however, looks beautiful, but is slower then slugs. This isn't the best screenshot, either. The time does show.

More testing shows that Tetris 64, Paper Mario , and MarioKart 64 don't run

Paper Mario flickers, and i just get a black screen with the other 2 ( i can get past the menu in MarioKart64, though)

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felinusz · March 18th, 2003, 19:14

Well, at least some things are working for you know, BTW Glide 64 does NOT falsely report FPS, it merely reports 1/2 the value of the actual FPS (for some reason unknown to me with my lack of programming skills

) To speed things up get a faster processor, or O/C your current one, N64 emulation is mainly Processor intensive, not so much video card intensive.

To O/C your Video card (if you are interested in that still) google 'Rivatuner' a neat tweaking utility for Nvidia and ATI video cards.

Glad it helped you a bit!

needtoexplain · March 18th, 2003, 20:01

I just registered to reply to this..

It says 20FPS because 20fps is the actual fps, not half. Most games run at 20/30 true fps, and not 60 like most people think. 60 is vi/s, not fps. Only n64 game I know of that runs at an actual 60FPS is F-Zero X.

You won't get too far with a better videocard in your K6-2, a tnt-2 is bottlenecked with it.

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felinusz · March 18th, 2003, 21:07

Well, as they say "you learn something new every day"
BTW what is vi/s? And why do other plugins read out at 60 or 50 FPS?

Andrew Hruska · March 19th, 2003, 20:24

VI/S means " vertical interrupts per second ", according to Glide64
If I get a faster computer w/ no vid card, i would want something better then a TnT2 M64

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Andrew Hruska Banned Join Date: Mar 2003 Location: somewhere Posts: 1,121	OpenGL + 1964 = Nothing but a crash Like the title says, i cannot get 1964 and OpenGL to cooperate. glNintendo64() and Rice's Daedulus do not work on 1964! Can anyone help (and it isn't bad ROMS, because all my roms work with Jabo's plugin)

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March 16th, 2003, 18:02	#2
felinusz overclocking magus Join Date: Nov 2002 Location: Toronto, Canada Posts: 1,372	Have you tried Jabo's OpenGL plugin?

March 16th, 2003, 19:30	#3
Zephon Key To The Universe Join Date: Jul 2001 Location: Stratosphere Posts: 2,712	I see you're using Detonator 43.00 drivers with your TNT2. Since it's a somehow old card, it's recommended that you stick yo some older drivers (I think that 2x.xx should be fine, maybe someone else with a TNT2 can tell you better which driver to use). The latest Detonators offer absolutely no improvements to a TNT2, it's being developed focusing on the Geforce cards. Anyway, you can always use a D3D plugin. __________________ But there is someone who remembers you Someone waiting for a sign that leads the way to you There is someone who will die for you Keep that in mind when the hope fails

March 16th, 2003, 20:13	#4
Andrew Hruska Banned Join Date: Mar 2003 Location: somewhere Posts: 1,121	My friend reccomended 30.82, so i am using that now. And, i still cannot get OpenGL to work. I haven't tried Jabo's OpenGL (i never heard of it ) Maybe i need to mess around with the settings, or just stick with Jabo's DirectX6 1.5?

March 17th, 2003, 19:51	#5
felinusz overclocking magus Join Date: Nov 2002 Location: Toronto, Canada Posts: 1,372	Well, OpenGL isn't any better (or worse) than D3D, so you may as well just use D3D (most people do anyways and most people find it works 'better' [note the use of the " around better ] )

March 18th, 2003, 15:35	#8
Andrew Hruska Banned Join Date: Mar 2003 Location: somewhere Posts: 1,121	The Defaults are 125/143, and i can overclock to 160/160. Where can i get Glide and eVoodoo? And thank you for the nice comment about my ROM collection! I Own all those games, too ( except for a few ) And, i don't have any flickering in Paper Mario & Jabo's DX6 1.5. It's the only game i have that runs at full speed, also. And i really want a better vid card!

March 18th, 2003, 19:14	#10
felinusz overclocking magus Join Date: Nov 2002 Location: Toronto, Canada Posts: 1,372	Well, at least some things are working for you know, BTW Glide 64 does NOT falsely report FPS, it merely reports 1/2 the value of the actual FPS (for some reason unknown to me with my lack of programming skills ) To speed things up get a faster processor, or O/C your current one, N64 emulation is mainly Processor intensive, not so much video card intensive. To O/C your Video card (if you are interested in that still) google 'Rivatuner' a neat tweaking utility for Nvidia and ATI video cards. Glad it helped you a bit!

March 18th, 2003, 20:01	#11
needtoexplain Registered User Join Date: Mar 2003 Posts: 1	I just registered to reply to this.. It says 20FPS because 20fps is the actual fps, not half. Most games run at 20/30 true fps, and not 60 like most people think. 60 is vi/s, not fps. Only n64 game I know of that runs at an actual 60FPS is F-Zero X. You won't get too far with a better videocard in your K6-2, a tnt-2 is bottlenecked with it. __________________ Mods know who I am.. I just need to post this one thing.. please let it slide.

March 18th, 2003, 21:07	#12
felinusz overclocking magus Join Date: Nov 2002 Location: Toronto, Canada Posts: 1,372	Well, as they say "you learn something new every day" BTW what is vi/s? And why do other plugins read out at 60 or 50 FPS?

March 19th, 2003, 20:24	#13
Andrew Hruska Banned Join Date: Mar 2003 Location: somewhere Posts: 1,121	VI/S means " vertical interrupts per second ", according to Glide64 If I get a faster computer w/ no vid card, i would want something better then a TnT2 M64 Last edited by nicedude455; March 20th, 2003 at 00:28..