FSAA on Radeons?

RF · January 31st, 2003, 22:04

I found this tool called radeonator. Im just wondering if indeed my radeon can do fsaa? Is this even fsaa? (see screenie). Also what speeds should I set my card at? I know to increase it bit by bit but how fast should I increase it. Every five mins?

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**Kane** · January 31st, 2003, 22:05

Radeon 9000's can ideed do FSAA. They use the same super sampling method that 8500's use

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January 31st, 2003, 22:06

You have a Radeon 9000 Pro. Of course you can do full screen anti aliasing. Just use your ATi control panel. No need for additional software ^^

Radeon 9000/8500 support 2 sample. 4 sample and 6 sample Ordered Grid Super Sampling.

**cooliscool** · January 31st, 2003, 22:07

Yeah, but super sampling AA causes quite a performance hit.

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RF · January 31st, 2003, 22:08

www.radeonator.cjb.net

Im wondering what tom_e and demigod have theirs set at.....even though this is a non pro. I just benchmarked and got 3700...(approx. I cant find the damn number in 3dmark, it was 3697 or something.)

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RF · January 31st, 2003, 22:11

Ehm, this isnt a pro. just a series.

Where is fsaa here? I dont see it only aniostrophic.

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**Kane** · January 31st, 2003, 22:13

Smoothvision.

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RF · January 31st, 2003, 22:15

With smoothvision it makes some stuff transparent, sometimes the floors are seethru and in splintercell you can see lights through walls etc.

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January 31st, 2003, 22:17

Strange, Smoothvision is anti aliasing. But it's only truly taken advantage of if someone codes for it.

If stuff is becoming transparent then it seems like a driver issue. Because I never experienced that kind of thing.

In Regards to my Radeon 8500 I try and keep 4x enabled on it. But generally. I can't do more than 2x. Performance hit is nasty. I would stick to 2x if I were you.

RF · January 31st, 2003, 22:21

Alright, I got gta3 working. I found it was my amd drivers that were f'in it up b4 on my old xp install. I will put it on 4 and see what its like. Will I get any more fps if I push my card clock any higher, no higher then 275?

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**Demigod** · January 31st, 2003, 22:29

Yes, smoothvision is ATI's FSAA and I don't recommend using it, as it kills fps like no other

. It could be useful for older games (for psx emulation it could be acceptable) but not for newer ones. I just use 16x AF and leave it at that.

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Badaro · January 31st, 2003, 23:07

Quote:

Originally posted by Reichfuher
With smoothvision it makes some stuff transparent, sometimes the floors are seethru and in splintercell you can see lights through walls etc.

Are you using the latest drivers? This is a bug I experienced with an older driver and UT2K3.

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RF · February 1st, 2003, 00:32

Yes 3.0. I think that only happend on the 2.5 drivers. On ut2k3 and splintercell...isnt happening anymore with GTA3.

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e-ternity · February 1st, 2003, 00:51

grrr.... this is pissing...
i got a 128mb r9000 pro but my computer keeps reading the mem size at 64mb..... why???? help me plz T_T

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February 1st, 2003, 01:40

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Originally posted by iEvolutions
grrr.... this is pissing...
i got a 128mb r9000 pro but my computer keeps reading the mem size at 64mb..... why???? help me plz T_T

This is a bug with the Radeon 9700/9500 series as well. Just ignore it.

e-ternity · February 1st, 2003, 05:55

icic
=)
lol somehow i got it fixed and its readin at 128 for now....

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January 31st, 2003, 22:04	#1
RF Canadian Spaceman Join Date: May 2002 Location: Canada Posts: 8,767	FSAA on Radeons? I found this tool called radeonator. Im just wondering if indeed my radeon can do fsaa? Is this even fsaa? (see screenie). Also what speeds should I set my card at? I know to increase it bit by bit but how fast should I increase it. Every five mins? __________________ CPU: Core i7 920 \ MB: EVGA X58 \ RAM: 12GB OCZ DDR3-1600 \ GPU: ATi 5870 HDD: 2x 150GB VelociRaptor R0 / PSU: Enermax Galaxy 850w / OS: Windows 7 x64

January 31st, 2003, 22:29	#11
Demigod これはバタスです Join Date: Jun 2001 Location: Toronto, Ontario, Canada Posts: 6,332	Yes, smoothvision is ATI's FSAA and I don't recommend using it, as it kills fps like no other. It could be useful for older games (for psx emulation it could be acceptable) but not for newer ones. I just use 16x AF and leave it at that. __________________ CPU: Intel Core 2 Quad Q9450 Mobo: Intel DX48BT2 Memory: 4096 MB PC10600 DDR3 Videocard: PNY Geforce 9800 GX2 Soundcard: On-board SigmaTel High Definition Audio Hard drive: 120 GB OCZ RevoDrive PCI-E SSD & 1 TB Hitachi Optical drive: LG GGW-H20L (2x BD-R DL) PSU: Nexus 1000 Watt PSU OS: Microsoft Windows 7 Ultimate (64-bit) Proud millionaire folder of the NGEmu folding team

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January 31st, 2003, 22:05	#2
Kane 邪魔ゎ指せない Join Date: Jan 2002 Location: Gosport, England Posts: 26,303	Radeon 9000's can ideed do FSAA. They use the same super sampling method that 8500's use __________________ >Site Live< Pop over to my site for help with setting up PSX emulators. Help for the Final Fantasies and other RPGs avalaible Celes: (Desktop) Phenom II X4, 4Gb DDR2, GeForce 8800 GTS 320Mb, 32Gb OCZ Vertex SSD, 500Gb RAID HDD, Windows 7 Home Premium Erika: (MCPC) Revo3610, Windows 7 Home Premium Kimiko: (Craptop) HP Mini 210

January 31st, 2003, 22:06	#3
ChrisRay Guest Posts: n/a	You have a Radeon 9000 Pro. Of course you can do full screen anti aliasing. Just use your ATi control panel. No need for additional software ^^ Radeon 9000/8500 support 2 sample. 4 sample and 6 sample Ordered Grid Super Sampling.

January 31st, 2003, 22:07	#4
cooliscool Global Moderator Join Date: Jul 2001 Location: SC, USA Posts: 7,231	Yeah, but super sampling AA causes quite a performance hit. __________________

January 31st, 2003, 22:08	#5
RF Canadian Spaceman Join Date: May 2002 Location: Canada Posts: 8,767	www.radeonator.cjb.net Im wondering what tom_e and demigod have theirs set at.....even though this is a non pro. I just benchmarked and got 3700...(approx. I cant find the damn number in 3dmark, it was 3697 or something.) __________________ CPU: Core i7 920 \ MB: EVGA X58 \ RAM: 12GB OCZ DDR3-1600 \ GPU: ATi 5870 HDD: 2x 150GB VelociRaptor R0 / PSU: Enermax Galaxy 850w / OS: Windows 7 x64

January 31st, 2003, 22:11	#6
RF Canadian Spaceman Join Date: May 2002 Location: Canada Posts: 8,767	Ehm, this isnt a pro. just a series. Where is fsaa here? I dont see it only aniostrophic. __________________ CPU: Core i7 920 \ MB: EVGA X58 \ RAM: 12GB OCZ DDR3-1600 \ GPU: ATi 5870 HDD: 2x 150GB VelociRaptor R0 / PSU: Enermax Galaxy 850w / OS: Windows 7 x64

January 31st, 2003, 22:13	#7
Kane 邪魔ゎ指せない Join Date: Jan 2002 Location: Gosport, England Posts: 26,303	Smoothvision. __________________ >Site Live< Pop over to my site for help with setting up PSX emulators. Help for the Final Fantasies and other RPGs avalaible Celes: (Desktop) Phenom II X4, 4Gb DDR2, GeForce 8800 GTS 320Mb, 32Gb OCZ Vertex SSD, 500Gb RAID HDD, Windows 7 Home Premium Erika: (MCPC) Revo3610, Windows 7 Home Premium Kimiko: (Craptop) HP Mini 210

January 31st, 2003, 22:15	#8
RF Canadian Spaceman Join Date: May 2002 Location: Canada Posts: 8,767	With smoothvision it makes some stuff transparent, sometimes the floors are seethru and in splintercell you can see lights through walls etc. __________________ CPU: Core i7 920 \ MB: EVGA X58 \ RAM: 12GB OCZ DDR3-1600 \ GPU: ATi 5870 HDD: 2x 150GB VelociRaptor R0 / PSU: Enermax Galaxy 850w / OS: Windows 7 x64

January 31st, 2003, 22:17	#9
ChrisRay Guest Posts: n/a	Strange, Smoothvision is anti aliasing. But it's only truly taken advantage of if someone codes for it. If stuff is becoming transparent then it seems like a driver issue. Because I never experienced that kind of thing. In Regards to my Radeon 8500 I try and keep 4x enabled on it. But generally. I can't do more than 2x. Performance hit is nasty. I would stick to 2x if I were you.

January 31st, 2003, 22:21	#10
RF Canadian Spaceman Join Date: May 2002 Location: Canada Posts: 8,767	Alright, I got gta3 working. I found it was my amd drivers that were f'in it up b4 on my old xp install. I will put it on 4 and see what its like. Will I get any more fps if I push my card clock any higher, no higher then 275? __________________ CPU: Core i7 920 \ MB: EVGA X58 \ RAM: 12GB OCZ DDR3-1600 \ GPU: ATi 5870 HDD: 2x 150GB VelociRaptor R0 / PSU: Enermax Galaxy 850w / OS: Windows 7 x64

February 1st, 2003, 00:32	#13
RF Canadian Spaceman Join Date: May 2002 Location: Canada Posts: 8,767	Yes 3.0. I think that only happend on the 2.5 drivers. On ut2k3 and splintercell...isnt happening anymore with GTA3. __________________ CPU: Core i7 920 \ MB: EVGA X58 \ RAM: 12GB OCZ DDR3-1600 \ GPU: ATi 5870 HDD: 2x 150GB VelociRaptor R0 / PSU: Enermax Galaxy 850w / OS: Windows 7 x64

February 1st, 2003, 00:51	#14
e-ternity ... Join Date: Oct 2001 Location: bc, canada Posts: 499	grrr.... this is pissing... i got a 128mb r9000 pro but my computer keeps reading the mem size at 64mb..... why???? help me plz T_T __________________ Main: a7n8x dlx / athlonXP 2100 / (1)pc2700 512mb/ seagate 80gb/ ati 8500le 64mb.... now ati 9600xt 128mb YAY

February 1st, 2003, 05:55	#16
e-ternity ... Join Date: Oct 2001 Location: bc, canada Posts: 499	icic =) lol somehow i got it fixed and its readin at 128 for now.... __________________ Main: a7n8x dlx / athlonXP 2100 / (1)pc2700 512mb/ seagate 80gb/ ati 8500le 64mb.... now ati 9600xt 128mb YAY