God Riaa. Will you get lost ^^

January 23rd, 2003, 04:17

Quote:

"A federal judge on Tuesday ordered Verizon Communications to disclose
the identity of an alleged peer-to-peer pirate in a legal decision that
could make it easier for the music industry to crack down on
file-swapping networks. In a 37-page decision, U.S. District Judge John
Bates said the wording of the 1998 Digital Millennium Copyright Act
requires Verizon to give the Recording Industry Association of America
the name of a Kazaa subscriber who allegedly was sharing more than 600
music recordings. Bates said 'the court disagrees with Verizon's
strained reading of the act, which disregards entirely the clear
definitional language.'"

http://www.usatoday.com/tech/news/te...sic-swap_x.htm

Quote:

"In the Denmark case, the anti-piracy group obtained a court order that forced the providers to turn over users' names. The group tracked the users by examining their Internet Protocol addresses, the individual fingerprint of computer users online.

From there, the group sent each user a bill, as well as a settlement offer ranging from about $130 to $13,300. The users were asked to pay by Dec. 1 and told to delete the content from their computers or face a lawsuit.

http://www.usatoday.com/tech/news/techpolicy/2002-12-03-music-swap_x.htm

ebola · January 23rd, 2003, 05:40

riaa is crap.

their site got hacked again this month.
http://www.theinquirer.net/?article=7160

funny stuff

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Strider · January 23rd, 2003, 05:46

i hate RIAA, who are they to force people to reveal personal information about their members, i wish they could infect all the RIAA computers with viruses, change all the passwords, then permanently turn the site to a P2P file network, much like they temporarily did before

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Drack · January 23rd, 2003, 05:48

The DCMA, the law used to support most of these decisions, is in my opinion flawed. It makes something illigal that happens every day and furthermore infringes oupon the users right to "fair use" with their media. Even the tech companies that pushed for its passage are now calling for changes to be made.

I think I broke this law with my old K-nex set from when I was a kid.

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Player-X · January 23rd, 2003, 08:37

RIAA:Reunion In Ass Assosiation

Strider · January 23rd, 2003, 16:34

dont you mean retar*s in america association

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Unicron · January 23rd, 2003, 21:18

Robbie williams is ok w/piracy

http://www.cnn.com/2003/TECH/interne...eut/index.html

Does any one know of anything about programs or of any programs that can be used to mask one's IP address? Just wondering.

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Napro · January 23rd, 2003, 23:33

use a proxy

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Player-X · January 24th, 2003, 12:27

OOOH look at me I have 15GB of MP3s now arrest me and charge me with piracy.(MP3s not consisting of music)

FYI
The RIAA is fighting MP3s not piracy in my opinion

**Demigod** · January 24th, 2003, 18:11

I don't understand why the RIAA keeps doing things like this. This is a battle that they will never win (how can you eliminate piracy?). I want to know what they possibly hope to accomplish by this. If anything they should be going along with the flow, instead of pushing against it. They should develop their own media format, equal or superior to MP3 and create their own server-to-client software for people to use. I believe the primary reason people use MP3s is because they're so damn convenient. They're small enough for people to be able to store hundreds of albums on their computer and compose a playlist of various albums. That's something you could never do with CDs. You also don't have to buy the entire album for a single song and it's easily retrievable. You can download songs and play them with only a few clicks, without moving from your seat. That's convenience and that's what people love (next to the price of course

). If the RIAA offered a similar service but with more features they could steal people away from P2P services forever. They could provide fast servers with various songs on a pay-per-download basis. They could provide lyrics that play with the song or make a karaoke service (different channels for lyrics, guitar, drums, etc.). They could do web casting of music videos and behind-the-scenes clips. As the proprietor of popular music they have the ability to do this. There are dozens of different things they could do, but their current brute-force method isn't going to lead anywhere. You catch more flies with honey than vinegar, they should try to appeal to the people rather than displease them.

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Player-X · January 25th, 2003, 12:13

In Short:RIAA=Iddiot who dosn't know the phrase "If you can't push it try pulling it"

January 26th, 2003, 01:27

Quote:

Originally posted by Demigod
I don't understand why the RIAA keeps doing things like this. This is a battle that they will never win (how can you eliminate piracy?). I want to know what they possibly hope to accomplish by this. If anything they should be going along with the flow, instead of pushing against it. They should develop their own media format, equal or superior to MP3 and create their own server-to-client software for people to use. I believe the primary reason people use MP3s is because they're so damn convenient. They're small enough for people to be able to store hundreds of albums on their computer and compose a playlist of various albums. That's something you could never do with CDs. You also don't have to buy the entire album for a single song and it's easily retrievable. You can download songs and play them with only a few clicks, without moving from your seat. That's convenience and that's what people love (next to the price of course ). If the RIAA offered a similar service but with more features they could steal people away from P2P services forever. They could provide fast servers with various songs on a pay-per-download basis. They could provide lyrics that play with the song or make a karaoke service (different channels for lyrics, guitar, drums, etc.). They could do web casting of music videos and behind-the-scenes clips. As the proprietor of popular music they have the ability to do this. There are dozens of different things they could do, but their current brute-force method isn't going to lead anywhere. You catch more flies with honey than vinegar, they should try to appeal to the people rather than displease them.

The only problem I think they would have is what would eliminate people from sharing the files they have? It's always possible of course. I mean.

The ridiculous thing about CDS is they are a rip off. They cost 10 cents for the company to make. BUt they Still charge 5 dollars more for a CD than they do a video cassette tape. And Casette tapes Cost more money to make then CDS (about a 200% increase in cost (like 3.00 per casette)

Thats what I don't understand, cheaper less expensive technology is actually costing more.

Riaa is not paying the record companies what they deserve anyway.

Each individual artist makes about 15 cents per CD they sell. It's "Riaa" Who is making the big dollars for publishing them.

Riaa is not only ripping you off. They Are ripping the artists they sell the CDS for as well.

Strider · January 26th, 2003, 01:59

>The only problem I think they would have is what would eliminate people from sharing the files they have? It's always possible of course. I mean.
The ridiculous thing about CDS is they are a rip off. They cost 10 cents for the company to make. BUt they Still charge 5 dollars more for a CD than they do a video cassette tape. And Casette tapes Cost more money to make then CDS (about a 200% increase in cost (like 3.00 per casette)

theyre just angry cause for once theyre the ones getting ripped off

btw, 10 cents to 3 dollars is a 3000% percent increase

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January 26th, 2003, 02:59

Quote:

Originally posted by Strider
>The only problem I think they would have is what would eliminate people from sharing the files they have? It's always possible of course. I mean.
The ridiculous thing about CDS is they are a rip off. They cost 10 cents for the company to make. BUt they Still charge 5 dollars more for a CD than they do a video cassette tape. And Casette tapes Cost more money to make then CDS (about a 200% increase in cost (like 3.00 per casette)

theyre just angry cause for once theyre the ones getting ripped off btw, 10 cents to 3 dollars is a 3000% percent increase

Hehe thanks for the mathematical correction. BUt it's true. Cassettes are cheaper than CDS because they are treating CDS like its some special new technology that deserves to cost so much. When in fact. It's obsolete, Cheap technology and they are just ripping us all off =\

**Demigod** · January 26th, 2003, 04:10

Quote:

Originally posted by ChrisRay
The only problem I think they would have is what would eliminate people from sharing the files they have? It's always possible of course. I mean.

If they provided a good enough level of service I don't think that'd be too much of a problem. The main problem I face whenever I download anything on P2P software is what version to download. There are usually around 3-5 different versions of a song with varyings lengths and quality settings. I'm not always certain I'm getting the thing I want. The same applies with anything else I download. Plus some songs and movies are very difficult to find and a lot of people have slow connections. If they can make a fast, reliable service with a large selection of qualified songs, and make it easy enough for anyone to use then it could be a really big success. They could also offer CD burning options (create your own album) and toss in a free song download once in a while (download 3, get 1 free type thing) and they've got it made.

I'm just saying the RIAA could benefit a lot by taking advantage of the MP3 craze and creating their own software for it. I feel a major factor of the popularity of MP3s and P2P software is that it's so convenient to use (much more convenient than CDs). Sure P2P is free but you'd be surprised how much people are willing to pay for convenience and features. If the RIAA can create software that's significantly easier, faster and feature-rich than other P2P software than they could easily defect many of the people they're fighting against and make a good profit while they're at it. I think what they're doing right now is silly, tracking down individuals and shutting down P2P software. They could never hope to win against their enemies like this so their best option would be to win them over.

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Player-X · January 26th, 2003, 04:18

Yeah you're right Demigod!
It it just me or are they fighting the Tech industry and not piracy?

**DarkAurora** · January 26th, 2003, 16:54

Quote:

Originally posted by Unicron
Robbie williams is ok w/piracy
http://www.cnn.com/2003/TECH/interne...eut/index.html

If he's only getting paid 15 cents off every 15 dollar CD, I'm pretty sure he wants the RIAA to suffer!

caipirinha · January 26th, 2003, 17:13

and the dvd´s too, they are just too expensive, the same movie on video is like half the price or lower, and dvd´s are just as easy to produce as cds , ****ing robbers...

a band here in brazil told to fans to just copy their cds as they wouldn´t get any money from it

, that´s a good artist.

Player-X · January 27th, 2003, 12:17

That's it they are going too far http://dc.internet.com/news/article.php/1572591

**Demigod** · January 27th, 2003, 18:16

The thing I hate most is how they state that they're representing the interest of authors and songwriters when the only thing they're interested in is lining their own pockets with gold.

Quote:

Cary Sherman, president of the RIAA, said, "We appreciate the court's decision, which validates our interpretation of the law. The illegal distribution of music on the Internet is a serious issue for musicians, songwriters and other copyright owners, and the record companies have made great strides in addressing this problem by educating consumers and providing them with legitimate alternatives."

I hope for the sake of privacy and people's right on the internet that Verizon wins this battle.

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January 23rd, 2003, 05:40	#2
ebola Registered User Join Date: Jun 2001 Location: Chanhassen, MN Posts: 900	riaa is crap. their site got hacked again this month. http://www.theinquirer.net/?article=7160 funny stuff __________________ .: Cythraul Design :: MBA-Forums :.

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Strider Living Paradigm Join Date: Feb 2002 Location: Toronto Posts: 10,223	i hate RIAA, who are they to force people to reveal personal information about their members, i wish they could infect all the RIAA computers with viruses, change all the passwords, then permanently turn the site to a P2P file network, much like they temporarily did before __________________ My Deviant Art

January 23rd, 2003, 05:48	#4
Drack Registered User Join Date: Dec 2001 Location: PDX, USA Posts: 1,187	The DCMA, the law used to support most of these decisions, is in my opinion flawed. It makes something illigal that happens every day and furthermore infringes oupon the users right to "fair use" with their media. Even the tech companies that pushed for its passage are now calling for changes to be made. I think I broke this law with my old K-nex set from when I was a kid. __________________ Athlon64 +3200, GeForceFX 5900, 1024 MB DDR 400, nForce3 250Gb chipset 80 GB SATA Seagate , 80 GB 7200 RPM Seagate, 120 GB 7200 Seagate Lite-on SOHD-167T and Pioneer DVR-A06D Running XP Professional and SuSe 9.1

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January 23rd, 2003, 21:18	#7
Unicron Git er done Join Date: Mar 2002 Location: Raleigh, NC USA GO us! Posts: 2,829	Robbie williams is ok w/piracy http://www.cnn.com/2003/TECH/interne...eut/index.html Does any one know of anything about programs or of any programs that can be used to mask one's IP address? Just wondering. __________________ It is the soldier, not the court, that has given us freedom of speech. It is the soldier, not the agitator, who has given us the freedom to protest. It is the soldier who salutes the flag, serves beneath the flag, whose coffin is draped by the flag, who gives that protestor the freedom he abuses to burn that flag. -Senator Zell Miller

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January 24th, 2003, 12:27	#9
Player-X Banned Join Date: Apr 2002 Location: From Kuching in Malaysia now stuck in Houston Texas Posts: 9,111	OOOH look at me I have 15GB of MP3s now arrest me and charge me with piracy.(MP3s not consisting of music) FYI The RIAA is fighting MP3s not piracy in my opinion

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Demigod これはバタスです Join Date: Jun 2001 Location: Toronto, Ontario, Canada Posts: 6,332	I don't understand why the RIAA keeps doing things like this. This is a battle that they will never win (how can you eliminate piracy?). I want to know what they possibly hope to accomplish by this. If anything they should be going along with the flow, instead of pushing against it. They should develop their own media format, equal or superior to MP3 and create their own server-to-client software for people to use. I believe the primary reason people use MP3s is because they're so damn convenient. They're small enough for people to be able to store hundreds of albums on their computer and compose a playlist of various albums. That's something you could never do with CDs. You also don't have to buy the entire album for a single song and it's easily retrievable. You can download songs and play them with only a few clicks, without moving from your seat. That's convenience and that's what people love (next to the price of course ). If the RIAA offered a similar service but with more features they could steal people away from P2P services forever. They could provide fast servers with various songs on a pay-per-download basis. They could provide lyrics that play with the song or make a karaoke service (different channels for lyrics, guitar, drums, etc.). They could do web casting of music videos and behind-the-scenes clips. As the proprietor of popular music they have the ability to do this. There are dozens of different things they could do, but their current brute-force method isn't going to lead anywhere. You catch more flies with honey than vinegar, they should try to appeal to the people rather than displease them. __________________ CPU: Intel Core 2 Quad Q9450 Mobo: Intel DX48BT2 Memory: 4096 MB PC10600 DDR3 Videocard: PNY Geforce 9800 GX2 Soundcard: On-board SigmaTel High Definition Audio Hard drive: 120 GB OCZ RevoDrive PCI-E SSD & 1 TB Hitachi Optical drive: LG GGW-H20L (2x BD-R DL) PSU: Nexus 1000 Watt PSU OS: Microsoft Windows 7 Ultimate (64-bit) Proud millionaire folder of the NGEmu folding team

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Player-X Banned Join Date: Apr 2002 Location: From Kuching in Malaysia now stuck in Houston Texas Posts: 9,111	In Short:RIAA=Iddiot who dosn't know the phrase "If you can't push it try pulling it"

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Strider Living Paradigm Join Date: Feb 2002 Location: Toronto Posts: 10,223	>The only problem I think they would have is what would eliminate people from sharing the files they have? It's always possible of course. I mean. The ridiculous thing about CDS is they are a rip off. They cost 10 cents for the company to make. BUt they Still charge 5 dollars more for a CD than they do a video cassette tape. And Casette tapes Cost more money to make then CDS (about a 200% increase in cost (like 3.00 per casette) theyre just angry cause for once theyre the ones getting ripped off btw, 10 cents to 3 dollars is a 3000% percent increase __________________ My Deviant Art

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Player-X Banned Join Date: Apr 2002 Location: From Kuching in Malaysia now stuck in Houston Texas Posts: 9,111	Yeah you're right Demigod! It it just me or are they fighting the Tech industry and not piracy?

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caipirinha Change your heart Join Date: Aug 2002 Location: Brazil Posts: 1,989	and the dvd´s too, they are just too expensive, the same movie on video is like half the price or lower, and dvd´s are just as easy to produce as cds , ****ing robbers... a band here in brazil told to fans to just copy their cds as they wouldn´t get any money from it , that´s a good artist.

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Player-X Banned Join Date: Apr 2002 Location: From Kuching in Malaysia now stuck in Houston Texas Posts: 9,111	That's it they are going too far http://dc.internet.com/news/article.php/1572591