LOTR & Harry Potter : Similarities

fujita · November 23rd, 2002, 08:47

Hello everyone.
I found this somewhere in a magazine, and it's quite funny when thinking about it. I hope you all will enjoy it.

The Similarities Between LOTR and Harry Potter

1. Good wizard
LOTR - Gandalf is a good wizard, and his hair and beard are white. He take care of the small hero (Frodo).
Harry Potter - Dumbledore is a good wizard, and his hair and beard are white. He take care of the small hero (Harry).

2. Evil
LOTR - Sauron, evil from the past.
Harry Potter - Voldemort, evil from the past.

3. Assistant
LOTR - Wormtongue, mischief, timid and always crying.
Harry Potter - Wormtail, mischief, timid and always crying.

4. Invisibility
LOTR - When Frodo wears the ring, he'll become invisible.
Harry Potter - When Harry wears the cloak, he'll become invisible.

5. Big Monster
LOTR - The heroes have been attacked by a big troll.
Harry Potter - The heroes have been attacked by a big troll.

6. Sword
LOTR - The sword Narsil has been used to defeat Sauron.
Harry Potter - The sword Godiric Gryffindor has been used to defeat Basilisk.

7. Big Spider
LOTR - A big spider has attacked Frodo in the forest.
Harry Potter - A big spider has attacked Harry in the forest.

8. Scary Forest
LOTR - Lothlorien is a scary forest, feared by the heroes.
Harry Potter - Dark Forest is a scary forest, feared by the heroes.

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vivrantpig · November 23rd, 2002, 08:49

wow... i never noticed those things

Ninjaa · November 23rd, 2002, 08:58

I'm going to have nightmares

BaD_BURN · November 23rd, 2002, 09:14

First off, don't ever compare Harry Potter to LOTR. HP can't hold a candle to LOTR. Second, yes there are similarities. Just goes to show that Rowling ripped off some ideas from Prof. Tolkien.

JAZ · November 23rd, 2002, 12:27

Yeah I gotta agree that harry potters not in the same class or even near it (not that i've ever read harry potter)

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3. Assistant
LOTR - Wormtongue, mischief, timid and always crying.
Harry Potter - Wormtail, mischief, timid and always crying.

I wouldnt say that wormtounge fits that description really, he was more manipulitive than michievious.

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5. Big Monster
LOTR - The heroes have been attacked by a big troll.
Harry Potter - The heroes have been attacked by a big troll.

This is only in the film, and its only implied that theres a cave troll (or more than one) outside the room in the book, the only thing that could be the troll is when the orcs first try to get into the chamber that the company is in a huge arm and foot pushes through the door but after frodo hits it with his sword it retreats.
Its an orc that pins Frodo with a spear not a troll like in the film.

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7. Big Spider
LOTR - A big spider has attacked Frodo in the forest.
Harry Potter - A big spider has attacked Harry in the forest.

Again this is not correct, Frodo is attacked by a giant spider (shelob) but its in the mountain pass..

**Betamax** · November 23rd, 2002, 13:42

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Originally posted by BaD_BURN
First off, don't ever compare Harry Potter to LOTR. HP can't hold a candle to LOTR. Second, yes there are similarities. Just goes to show that Rowling ripped off some ideas from Prof. Tolkien.

Er I think you'll find that's the point the author was trying to convey

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November 23rd, 2002, 14:07

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7. Big Spider
LOTR - A big spider has attacked Frodo in the forest.
Harry Potter - A big spider has attacked Harry in the forest.

Jaz is right but Bilbo was attacked by giant spiders in The Hobbit (which I think were the offspring of Shelob).

Kamina · November 23rd, 2002, 15:30

Simple fact is that LOTR is so influential that if you look hard enough just about any fantasy/sci-fi movie, game or series will have at least some similarities. Albeit not quite as obvious, or cheesy.

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K.I.L.E.R · November 23rd, 2002, 16:00

Ahhh the name is Bilbo... I thought it was... you don't want to know.

I'm sure you can guess what I thought it was.

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Jaz is right but Bilbo was attacked by giant spiders in The Hobbit (which I think were the offspring of Shelob).

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Strider · November 23rd, 2002, 21:46

>8. Scary Forest
LOTR - Lothlorien is a scary forest, feared by the heroes.
Harry Potter - Dark Forest is a scary forest, feared by the heroes.

wasnt lothlorien just a city of the elves, there were woods around it but lothlorien was the city of the lady galadriel, the scary forest in lotr would be mirkwood imo

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**Ryos** · November 24th, 2002, 04:26

> Simple fact is that LOTR is so influential that if you look hard enough just about any fantasy/sci-fi movie, game or series will have at least some similarities.

I'd certainly hope not. I'd never read again. Where does it say everything draws from LotR? A LOT of series have absolutely NOTHING to do with it. On the other hand, HP DEFINITELY takes more than a few things from LotR.

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**OK-OK** · November 24th, 2002, 04:39

Hmm... im probably the only one who hasnt seen LOTR in this forum.... is it good?

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**Ryos** · November 24th, 2002, 04:41

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Originally posted by OK-OK
Hmm... im probably the only one who hasnt seen LOTR in this forum.... is it good?

You mean FotR. The full trilogy isn't out yet. And, imho, it's very good. Best live-action movie out there. On the other end of the spectrum, some people think it's incredibly boring.

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K.I.L.E.R · November 24th, 2002, 04:42

HECK YES!

Of course the book is much better (according to all the people which yell that in my ear)

It is a must see. I even own it on DVD.

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**OK-OK** · November 24th, 2002, 04:46

Maybe ill rent it... but thats a big maybe....

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**Ryos** · November 24th, 2002, 04:47

> Of course the book is much better (according to all the people which yell that in my ear)

The book is sooooooooooooooo much worse. I did like the book more when I read it the first time when I was ten, however. And the fact some of the best parts of the book aren't in the movie isn't a good thing.

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K.I.L.E.R · November 24th, 2002, 04:49

Well at least you couldn't yell that in my ear.

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November 24th, 2002, 16:44

I think the book version(lotr) is alot better, on the other hand, the movie was alot easier to understand.

In the Fellowship of the Ring, there is a tree called Old Man Willow who attempts to kill Pippin and Merry.
In Harry Potter, there is a tree called The Weeping Willow, who attempts to kill Harry 'n Ron.

Kid A · November 24th, 2002, 18:31

Anyone remember this thread?

http://www.ngemu.com/forums/showthre...r=1#post322324

Moayed · December 1st, 2002, 11:34

i thinlk the similarities are very convincing.where did you get them from?

November 23rd, 2002, 08:47	#1
fujita Tiger of Jiang Dong Join Date: Sep 2001 Location: Inter Galactic & Dimensional Center Posts: 964	LOTR & Harry Potter : Similarities Hello everyone. I found this somewhere in a magazine, and it's quite funny when thinking about it. I hope you all will enjoy it. The Similarities Between LOTR and Harry Potter 1. Good wizard LOTR - Gandalf is a good wizard, and his hair and beard are white. He take care of the small hero (Frodo). Harry Potter - Dumbledore is a good wizard, and his hair and beard are white. He take care of the small hero (Harry). 2. Evil LOTR - Sauron, evil from the past. Harry Potter - Voldemort, evil from the past. 3. Assistant LOTR - Wormtongue, mischief, timid and always crying. Harry Potter - Wormtail, mischief, timid and always crying. 4. Invisibility LOTR - When Frodo wears the ring, he'll become invisible. Harry Potter - When Harry wears the cloak, he'll become invisible. 5. Big Monster LOTR - The heroes have been attacked by a big troll. Harry Potter - The heroes have been attacked by a big troll. 6. Sword LOTR - The sword Narsil has been used to defeat Sauron. Harry Potter - The sword Godiric Gryffindor has been used to defeat Basilisk. 7. Big Spider LOTR - A big spider has attacked Frodo in the forest. Harry Potter - A big spider has attacked Harry in the forest. 8. Scary Forest LOTR - Lothlorien is a scary forest, feared by the heroes. Harry Potter - Dark Forest is a scary forest, feared by the heroes. __________________ Elly taught us that sometimes sacrifices only lead to more suffering. Aribeth taught us that sometimes the public don't deserve protection. Jeane taught us how important to respect the privacy of others. SOR PROJECT : WHERE EVERYTHING IS REAL

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November 23rd, 2002, 08:49	#2
vivrantpig (>^_^)> KIRBY Join Date: Sep 2001 Posts: 2,612	wow... i never noticed those things

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Ninjaa Banned Join Date: Oct 2001 Location: Soviet Canuckistan Posts: 7,778	I'm going to have nightmares

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BaD_BURN In limbo Join Date: Jul 2001 Location: Cave dweller Posts: 914	First off, don't ever compare Harry Potter to LOTR. HP can't hold a candle to LOTR. Second, yes there are similarities. Just goes to show that Rowling ripped off some ideas from Prof. Tolkien.

November 23rd, 2002, 15:30	#8
Kamina Dance Monkey boy! Dance! Join Date: Oct 2002 Location: OR, USA Posts: 515	Simple fact is that LOTR is so influential that if you look hard enough just about any fantasy/sci-fi movie, game or series will have at least some similarities. Albeit not quite as obvious, or cheesy. __________________ Es gibt keine verzweifelten Lagen, es gibt nur verzweifelte Menschen

November 23rd, 2002, 21:46	#10
Strider Living Paradigm Join Date: Feb 2002 Location: Toronto Posts: 10,223	>8. Scary Forest LOTR - Lothlorien is a scary forest, feared by the heroes. Harry Potter - Dark Forest is a scary forest, feared by the heroes. wasnt lothlorien just a city of the elves, there were woods around it but lothlorien was the city of the lady galadriel, the scary forest in lotr would be mirkwood imo __________________ My Deviant Art

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Ryos Bearsona Join Date: May 2001 Location: Nowhere Posts: 11,307	> Simple fact is that LOTR is so influential that if you look hard enough just about any fantasy/sci-fi movie, game or series will have at least some similarities. I'd certainly hope not. I'd never read again. Where does it say everything draws from LotR? A LOT of series have absolutely NOTHING to do with it. On the other hand, HP DEFINITELY takes more than a few things from LotR. __________________ Sanity is overrated.

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OK-OK I'm back... Join Date: Jan 2002 Location: Montreal Posts: 1,507	Hmm... im probably the only one who hasnt seen LOTR in this forum.... is it good? __________________ Don't let the beautiful eyes trick you before they eat you alive.

November 24th, 2002, 04:42	#14
K.I.L.E.R Registered User Join Date: Jan 2002 Posts: 2,338	HECK YES! Of course the book is much better (according to all the people which yell that in my ear) It is a must see. I even own it on DVD. __________________ Agent of love and justice, beautiful Sailor Senshi Sailor Moon.

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OK-OK I'm back... Join Date: Jan 2002 Location: Montreal Posts: 1,507	Maybe ill rent it... but thats a big maybe.... __________________ Don't let the beautiful eyes trick you before they eat you alive.

November 24th, 2002, 04:47	#16
Ryos Bearsona Join Date: May 2001 Location: Nowhere Posts: 11,307	> Of course the book is much better (according to all the people which yell that in my ear) The book is sooooooooooooooo much worse. I did like the book more when I read it the first time when I was ten, however. And the fact some of the best parts of the book aren't in the movie isn't a good thing. ::Ryos equips Flame-retardent Raincoat:: __________________ Sanity is overrated.

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K.I.L.E.R Registered User Join Date: Jan 2002 Posts: 2,338	Well at least you couldn't yell that in my ear. __________________ Agent of love and justice, beautiful Sailor Senshi Sailor Moon.

November 24th, 2002, 16:44	#18
j1188 Guest Posts: n/a	I think the book version(lotr) is alot better, on the other hand, the movie was alot easier to understand. In the Fellowship of the Ring, there is a tree called Old Man Willow who attempts to kill Pippin and Merry. In Harry Potter, there is a tree called The Weeping Willow, who attempts to kill Harry 'n Ron.

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Moayed Banned Join Date: Nov 2002 Location: In the Shadows Posts: 145	i thinlk the similarities are very convincing.where did you get them from?