PS2 vs GameCube vs XBox - Page 3

Kaiser Sigma · November 5th, 2002, 18:07

neither I... but it's not necesarily a bad thing... I mean, kids these days don't play kiddie games... they jump to games with big guns... an example : in my country kids of 10 or more years play CS...

_E_ · November 5th, 2002, 18:10

Well,, nowdays, consoles are focused on everybody. Mind you, My bro used to play Disney's Tarzan on the psx when he was 5. what i meant is that the more people they focus on, the more number of consoles that company would sell anually........

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Kaiser Sigma · November 5th, 2002, 18:13

true, still I think that the PS2 has an advantage there...

_E_ · November 5th, 2002, 18:17

Thats your opinion,......other people see an advantage of the PS2 having a DVD player when it was first released ( GC has this option recently) while others think that having more RPGs on the PS2 is the advantage over GC.Personally, I just look at the fun factor, graphics and storyline of each game. Weathers its "kidish", RPG, action/adventure....etc. I dont look at them genre wise...

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November 5th, 2002, 18:23

about the kids factor; said it before, but really, kids want games as well, and parents would often want more friendly games for their kids, so then the choice for the GCN would be more logical than picking a ps2. And sure, sure, SURE

, the GCN does have mature games, and Nintendo DOES try to appeal to older audiences as well, but I would find it VERY dumb of Nintendo if they abandoned this young audience, since there's lots of money to be made there. And if an older person likes games that are aimed at younger people, so what? you dont have to play a game with a gun just because you turned 16 last year, you're still allowed to play mario =P. I still watch cartoons and I'm friggin' 23.

_E_ · November 5th, 2002, 18:26

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Originally posted by Samor
about the kids factor; said it before, but really, kids want games as well, and parents would often want more friendly games for their kids, so then the choice for the GCN would be more logical than picking a ps2. And sure, sure, SURE , the GCN does have mature games, and Nintendo DOES try to appeal to older audiences as well, but I would find it VERY dumb of Nintendo if they abandoned this young audience, since there's lots of money to be made there. And if an older person likes games that are aimed at younger people, so what? you dont have to play a game with a gun just because you turned 16 last year, you're still allowed to play mario =P. I still watch cartoons and I'm friggin' 23.

very well said. I agree with you. I am more than 19 years old and I am still playing Banjo Kazooie on N64 emus.....

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Decoy_Octopus · November 5th, 2002, 20:23

i like ps2 the best because it has such a wide variety of games.

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**Exophase** · November 5th, 2002, 21:16

I'm not even going to vote in this one. I definitely like PS2 the best, personally, but for anyone to make claims towards which is the best system "all around" when people have such varying tastes and both systems offer such a wide variety of games (many which have a decent enough following)... well, I'd probably be okay voting for a single genre (which is still pretty inconclusive) but not overall...

- Exo

EDIT: By both systems I must have meant "GCN and PS2".. I'd edit it to make it "all" of the systems, but I'm not sure if I want to. ^_^

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**Exophase** · November 5th, 2002, 21:25

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Originally posted by Ninja
Zukeft, the PS2's hardware is more reminiscent of an N64 with a DVD-ROM than a PSX. I remember one developer commented that the PS2 was a serious accompishment. Sony managed to develop a machine that was more difficult to program than the N64.

Lemme mention something about that (sorry if this is a bit off topic, but I guess in a thread like this it's helpful to spread information about consoles.. okay, maybe not really)

PS2 really is based off of PSX pretty heavily, it may or may not be more difficult to program than N64, but that's not really that relevant to what it's technically similar to.

Consider that the PS2 has these things in common with the PSX:

MIPS based CPU
r3000a based IOP, that's the PSX CPU which also includes the PSX specific GTE extensions
SPU that is a minor upgrade from the PSX's SPU
GPU that is close enough to the PSX's in specification to allow for generally flawless reproduction (probably little is being "emulated" but perhaps slightly altered at most)
Similar memory port backward compatable with the PSX's
Ditto on the controller port
CD-ROM compatable DVD drive

The N64 has the following in common with the PS2:

MIPS based CPU

So yeah, I think that to say that the N64 has more in common with the PS2 than the PS1 does isn't accurate.

- Exo

Ninjaa · November 5th, 2002, 21:49

Programming for the PS2 and programming for the N64 are roughly similar I am told.

EDIT: See? The same nameless person as always still votes for the Xbox and won't admit it! SOMEONE TELL ME WHO THIS IS!

F-3582 · November 5th, 2002, 22:04

I did not vote for XBox (I chose PS2), because the games developed for it lack anything "unique". I mean, PS2 has the FinalFantasy series and soooo many other cool series, the Gamecube continued producing SuperMario etc., but are there any XBox games it can identify with (This is the reason why the stack of XBoxes in our local store is twice as high as the GC and PS2 stacks together - nobody wants it!)? The only games that are really well made are the ones that appear on all three consoles (e.g. SSX or THPS3). The rest will always be beaten by the PS2- or Gamecube-titles.

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Kaiser Sigma · November 6th, 2002, 00:05

Quote:

Originally posted by Samor
about the kids factor; said it before, but really, kids want games as well, and parents would often want more friendly games for their kids, so then the choice for the GCN would be more logical than picking a ps2. And sure, sure, SURE , the GCN does have mature games, and Nintendo DOES try to appeal to older audiences as well, but I would find it VERY dumb of Nintendo if they abandoned this young audience, since there's lots of money to be made there. And if an older person likes games that are aimed at younger people, so what? you dont have to play a game with a gun just because you turned 16 last year, you're still allowed to play mario =P. I still watch cartoons and I'm friggin' 23.

You missed my point, I'm not saying that ppl can't play games for younger audiences... I'm just saying that kid's tastes have changed greatly, kids now want, or at least like, to play games for older audiences, that's a fact, like it or not... a good example, remember the Mortal Kombat feber (though I hate that game) ? kids really wanted to play that game over other games like Mario or Sonic... it was a great sale for the systems that had that game.
Again, both of you (Kingstar, Samor) missed my point, and just for the record Samor, I'm 20 and I too watch anime and some cartoons...

_E_ · November 6th, 2002, 00:11

mmm,..I get your point, but there are still demand on such games, and not all kids like shooting games. Not to mention that kids are watched by thier parents, and when thier parents buy a console for them, its more likely that they will get kiddie games for thier children, right?

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Kaiser Sigma · November 6th, 2002, 00:16

Quote:

Originally posted by Kingstar
mmm,..I get your point, but there are still demand on such games, and not all kids like shooting games. Not to mention that kids are watched by thier parents, and when thier parents buy a console for them, its more likely that they will get kiddie games for thier children, right?

OMG... CS was just an example, it's not that I'm saying that ALL the kids like CS... again just an example...
But think about it, do you think that kids only like to play children's games ? come on, when we are younger we want to play what the olders play... it's a fact... when I was a child one of my favorite games was Ghost and Goblins, I liked when Arthur was killed and he ends up like a skelleton... my dad watched over me and frankly we both laughed a lot... and seeing a guy end up being only bones isn't something for all audiences yet...

**Exophase** · November 6th, 2002, 00:16

Quote:

Originally posted by Ninja
Programming for the PS2 and programming for the N64 are roughly similar I am told.

EDIT: See? The same nameless person as always still votes for the Xbox and won't admit it! SOMEONE TELL ME WHO THIS IS!

I don't think programming for the two systems would be all that similar, except that they both have 64bit MIPS code, but I think most people will tell you that the real gruntwork of coding the PS2 is in the vector units...

Okay, I admit it, it was me who voted for the XBox! I'm so ashamed

( Okay, that's all a lie

- Exo

_E_ · November 6th, 2002, 00:22

Quote:

Originally posted by Kaiser Sigma

OMG... CS was just an example, it's not that I'm saying that ALL the kids like CS... again just an example...
But think about it, do you think that kids only like to play children's games ? come on, when we are younger we want to play what the olders play... it's a fact... when I was a child one of my favorite games was Ghost and Goblins, I liked when Arthur was killed and he ends up like a skelleton... my dad watched over me and frankly we both laughed a lot... and seeing a guy end up being only bones isn't something for all audiences yet...

I belive that is determined with the age of that kid, and the environment around him and how does that effects the way kids think. As for me, I was REALLY a trouble maker when i was a kid, shooting games were my favorite, but thats just me

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Kaiser Sigma · November 6th, 2002, 00:26

anyway, back on topic... the PS2 features a bit more of games... though I hate to admit it, lately the games have a great quality also... I really liked the new Contra, not to mention Kingdom Hearts... Will I buy a PS2 ? not a chance in hell... but just right now I don't know if the GC is so appealing to me as I once though (to me, not to the market)...

_E_ · November 6th, 2002, 00:32

Actually, I am giving the GC its chance too, and we shall see which one is better. Yes, Sony made use of the good image PSX had in most of the gamers thought, and having a backward compability with PSX games just like what lord kane said previously made the PS2 more popular.

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mattybones · November 6th, 2002, 00:56

I have to say the gamecube i looooove allmost every game for it. It has great graphics,great music and its made by a company that everyone can trust, the only thing that is wrong with it is that you dont get at least a demo or a free game this is the only thing the x-box has on it due to the special edition x-box you get 2 free games and i dont have any thing good to say about sony other than they have kingdom hearts.....for now

Kaiser Sigma · November 6th, 2002, 01:31

Quote:

Originally posted by Kingstar
Actually, I am giving the GC its chance too, and we shall see which one is better. Yes, Sony made use of the good image PSX had in most of the gamers thought, and having a backward compability with PSX games just like what lord kane said previously made the PS2 more popular.

Don't misunderstand me... until a few months ago I'd had say that the GC was the best... I still think it has what it takes to be the best... but the PS2 is doing its best effort. And in my case the image of the PSX was what made me hate the PS2... so I don't care wich use Sony makes of the image of the PSX... also I don't care about backward compatibility, nor the DVD... I care about the games, and just right the PS2 seems like finally understandood that..

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November 5th, 2002, 18:07	#41
Kaiser Sigma ~ Lord of Darkness ~ Join Date: Apr 2002 Location: A place darker than the night. Posts: 15,312	neither I... but it's not necesarily a bad thing... I mean, kids these days don't play kiddie games... they jump to games with big guns... an example : in my country kids of 10 or more years play CS...

November 5th, 2002, 18:10	#42
_E_ Lurking Join Date: Aug 2002 Location: Gone Posts: 9,354	Well,, nowdays, consoles are focused on everybody. Mind you, My bro used to play Disney's Tarzan on the psx when he was 5. what i meant is that the more people they focus on, the more number of consoles that company would sell anually........ __________________ -= Moral cowardice that keeps us from speaking our minds is as dangerous to this country as irresponsible talk. The right way is not always =- the popular and easy way. Standing for right when it is unpopular is a true test of moral character. Margaret C. Smith

November 5th, 2002, 18:13	#43
Kaiser Sigma ~ Lord of Darkness ~ Join Date: Apr 2002 Location: A place darker than the night. Posts: 15,312	true, still I think that the PS2 has an advantage there...

November 5th, 2002, 18:17	#44
_E_ Lurking Join Date: Aug 2002 Location: Gone Posts: 9,354	Thats your opinion,......other people see an advantage of the PS2 having a DVD player when it was first released ( GC has this option recently) while others think that having more RPGs on the PS2 is the advantage over GC.Personally, I just look at the fun factor, graphics and storyline of each game. Weathers its "kidish", RPG, action/adventure....etc. I dont look at them genre wise... __________________ -= Moral cowardice that keeps us from speaking our minds is as dangerous to this country as irresponsible talk. The right way is not always =- the popular and easy way. Standing for right when it is unpopular is a true test of moral character. Margaret C. Smith

November 5th, 2002, 18:23	#45
Samor Guest Posts: n/a	about the kids factor; said it before, but really, kids want games as well, and parents would often want more friendly games for their kids, so then the choice for the GCN would be more logical than picking a ps2. And sure, sure, SURE , the GCN does have mature games, and Nintendo DOES try to appeal to older audiences as well, but I would find it VERY dumb of Nintendo if they abandoned this young audience, since there's lots of money to be made there. And if an older person likes games that are aimed at younger people, so what? you dont have to play a game with a gun just because you turned 16 last year, you're still allowed to play mario =P. I still watch cartoons and I'm friggin' 23.

November 5th, 2002, 20:23	#47
Decoy_Octopus Master of Disguise Join Date: Jan 2002 Location: Here... again... Posts: 1,508	i like ps2 the best because it has such a wide variety of games. __________________ "I contend that any game that draws people in is a good thing, because the more people play computer games, the more the hobby becomes legitimized and loses its social-retard status."- Jeff Green

November 5th, 2002, 21:16	#48
Exophase Emu author Join Date: Apr 2001 Location: Cleveland OH, USA Posts: 1,437	I'm not even going to vote in this one. I definitely like PS2 the best, personally, but for anyone to make claims towards which is the best system "all around" when people have such varying tastes and both systems offer such a wide variety of games (many which have a decent enough following)... well, I'd probably be okay voting for a single genre (which is still pretty inconclusive) but not overall... - Exo EDIT: By both systems I must have meant "GCN and PS2".. I'd edit it to make it "all" of the systems, but I'm not sure if I want to. ^_^ Last edited by Exophase; November 5th, 2002 at 21:26..

November 5th, 2002, 21:49	#50
Ninjaa Banned Join Date: Oct 2001 Location: Soviet Canuckistan Posts: 7,778	Programming for the PS2 and programming for the N64 are roughly similar I am told. EDIT: See? The same nameless person as always still votes for the Xbox and won't admit it! SOMEONE TELL ME WHO THIS IS!

November 5th, 2002, 22:04	#51
F-3582 Back to regular business Join Date: Mar 2002 Location: in Sachsen Posts: 3,258	I did not vote for XBox (I chose PS2), because the games developed for it lack anything "unique". I mean, PS2 has the FinalFantasy series and soooo many other cool series, the Gamecube continued producing SuperMario etc., but are there any XBox games it can identify with (This is the reason why the stack of XBoxes in our local store is twice as high as the GC and PS2 stacks together - nobody wants it!)? The only games that are really well made are the ones that appear on all three consoles (e.g. SSX or THPS3). The rest will always be beaten by the PS2- or Gamecube-titles. __________________ In a world without walls and fences - who needs Windows and Gates?

November 6th, 2002, 00:11	#53
_E_ Lurking Join Date: Aug 2002 Location: Gone Posts: 9,354	mmm,..I get your point, but there are still demand on such games, and not all kids like shooting games. Not to mention that kids are watched by thier parents, and when thier parents buy a console for them, its more likely that they will get kiddie games for thier children, right? __________________ -= Moral cowardice that keeps us from speaking our minds is as dangerous to this country as irresponsible talk. The right way is not always =- the popular and easy way. Standing for right when it is unpopular is a true test of moral character. Margaret C. Smith

November 6th, 2002, 00:26	#57
Kaiser Sigma ~ Lord of Darkness ~ Join Date: Apr 2002 Location: A place darker than the night. Posts: 15,312	anyway, back on topic... the PS2 features a bit more of games... though I hate to admit it, lately the games have a great quality also... I really liked the new Contra, not to mention Kingdom Hearts... Will I buy a PS2 ? not a chance in hell... but just right now I don't know if the GC is so appealing to me as I once though (to me, not to the market)...

November 6th, 2002, 00:32	#58
_E_ Lurking Join Date: Aug 2002 Location: Gone Posts: 9,354	Actually, I am giving the GC its chance too, and we shall see which one is better. Yes, Sony made use of the good image PSX had in most of the gamers thought, and having a backward compability with PSX games just like what lord kane said previously made the PS2 more popular. __________________ -= Moral cowardice that keeps us from speaking our minds is as dangerous to this country as irresponsible talk. The right way is not always =- the popular and easy way. Standing for right when it is unpopular is a true test of moral character. Margaret C. Smith

November 6th, 2002, 00:56	#59
mattybones The Nintendo Hero Join Date: Jan 2002 Location: Land where the Ps2 and gamecube live together Posts: 499	I have to say the gamecube i looooove allmost every game for it. It has great graphics,great music and its made by a company that everyone can trust, the only thing that is wrong with it is that you dont get at least a demo or a free game this is the only thing the x-box has on it due to the special edition x-box you get 2 free games and i dont have any thing good to say about sony other than they have kingdom hearts.....for now