Any one know any sites with visual c++ tutorials for newbies?

chillypacman · September 4th, 2002, 08:26

I started off with vb programming but now i'v decided that its too limmited and besides i wanna make win 32 apps

Nezzar · September 4th, 2002, 16:57

You can make Win32 apps with vb as well.
ammoQ once gave a link to a good site:
www.cprogramming.com
Lots of useful stuff there.

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**Shiori** · September 4th, 2002, 18:08

IMO you're better off starting with C first instead of C++.

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chillypacman · September 5th, 2002, 08:22

Dont have c i only gots C++

Nezzar · September 5th, 2002, 10:05

?????
You mean Visual C++, right? You can compile C-code with this as well just remember to make the extension .c
Shiori: IMO, it's not necessary to lean C before C++ since C++ can everything C can (and sometimes even better). It depends all on you (I never learned C, I started with C++)

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**Betamax** · September 6th, 2002, 20:31

I don't think you need to learn C first (I didn't). From what I hear you might be better off not as you could learn some bad habits which you would have to unlearn for c++.

Anyways never underestimate a good book and the dynamic help included in visual c++.

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chillypacman · September 7th, 2002, 23:55

You all sure seem confident that c++ is better than C

Ninjaa · September 8th, 2002, 03:39

C is faster, but C++ is better. Take that as you will. They are both the same language, but C++ adds a little that makes it easier to make large programs. C is a little trickier, but rewards you by being faster.

Nezzar · September 8th, 2002, 12:26

Really think C it is faster? It highly depends on the compiler and optimizer your using.

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chillypacman · September 10th, 2002, 08:27

I prefer to start c++ this is my choice right?

**ammoQ** · September 10th, 2002, 21:44

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Originally posted by Nezzar
Really think C it is faster? It highly depends on the compiler and optimizer your using.

When it comes to the last few percent, C is likely to be faster than C++ if you use C++ features.
But both of them are very fast compared to languages like java; and assembler is still much faster than both of them.

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**ammoQ** · September 10th, 2002, 21:47

chillypacman, don't think that it matters that much which language you choose. Programmers will learn many languages during their lives.

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chillypacman · September 11th, 2002, 04:07

Do they? wow now thats a prob how many would an average proggramer learn???

Nezzar · September 11th, 2002, 19:38

Depends on which jobs he has to do.

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chillypacman · September 12th, 2002, 04:02

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Originally posted by Nezzar
Depends on which jobs he has to do.

Say if he was an average 14 year old proggraming for a hobby games viruses etc etc Woops sed too muchh

**ammoQ** · September 12th, 2002, 06:23

chilliypacman, in your age 1-3 languages should be sufficient. In your age, I knew Basic and Z80A-Assembler (actually, that was all available on a Sinclair ZX81). If you plan a carrer as a professional programmer, prepare to learn more languages.

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chillypacman · September 12th, 2002, 06:45

Quote:

Originally posted by ammoQ
chilliypacman, in your age 1-3 languages should be sufficient. In your age, I knew Basic and Z80A-Assembler (actually, that was all available on a Sinclair ZX81). If you plan a carrer as a professional programmer, prepare to learn more languages.

No I'm considering becoming an engineer. But I wanto program as a lets say hobby

Red Knight · September 23rd, 2002, 02:49

i definantly learned c++ first, and unless i am forced to learn c for some bizzare reason i dont intend to... i don't know, i just like the added functionality in c++, which makes it so much more fun to use... course up to this point i haven't had to code anything really really processor intense, but then again if i really had some processor intense portion of code, i would try to write it in assembler, sorta like how ZSNES is coded or something...

anyways, the first language i learned was BASIC on an apple IIe, then QBASIC... actually i miss BASIC alot, that language was so simple it was scary... but ya nowadays most people are using either VB, c++, or java... I learned VB when it came out - seemed a natural step from QBASIC, but quite frankly i realized what you did, and VB is evil evil evil evil evil, and moved my butt over to c++...

there are assembler programmers out there somewhere, or so i've been told - they rarely see the light of day however...

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September 4th, 2002, 16:57	#2
Nezzar NSBQ nut Join Date: Aug 2001 Location: .de Posts: 1,208	You can make Win32 apps with vb as well. ammoQ once gave a link to a good site: www.cprogramming.com Lots of useful stuff there. __________________ Bred for its skills in magic

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Shiori :3 Join Date: Aug 2001 Location: Seoul, South Korea Posts: 10,128	IMO you're better off starting with C first instead of C++. __________________ My PC specs: AMD Athlon Thunderbird 1.1 Ghz, ECS Elitegroup K7S5A, 256MB PC133 SDRAM, Geforce2 MX200 32MB, 20GB Seagate, Windows XP Pro. Ok, what else... Shiori figurine on top of case, assorted anime stickers on the side, lazy tabby cat on top of monitor.

September 5th, 2002, 08:22	#4
chillypacman Banned Join Date: Aug 2002 Location: Australia - Perth Posts: 1,057	Dont have c i only gots C++

September 5th, 2002, 10:05	#5
Nezzar NSBQ nut Join Date: Aug 2001 Location: .de Posts: 1,208	????? You mean Visual C++, right? You can compile C-code with this as well just remember to make the extension .c Shiori: IMO, it's not necessary to lean C before C++ since C++ can everything C can (and sometimes even better). It depends all on you (I never learned C, I started with C++) __________________ Bred for its skills in magic

September 6th, 2002, 20:31	#6
Betamax Resident Movie Critic Join Date: Apr 2001 Location: Belfast, Northern Ireland Posts: 9,506	I don't think you need to learn C first (I didn't). From what I hear you might be better off not as you could learn some bad habits which you would have to unlearn for c++. Anyways never underestimate a good book and the dynamic help included in visual c++. __________________ Superior marketing of an inferior product will always win over inferior marketing of a superior product.

September 7th, 2002, 23:55	#7
chillypacman Banned Join Date: Aug 2002 Location: Australia - Perth Posts: 1,057	You all sure seem confident that c++ is better than C

September 8th, 2002, 03:39	#8
Ninjaa Banned Join Date: Oct 2001 Location: Soviet Canuckistan Posts: 7,778	C is faster, but C++ is better. Take that as you will. They are both the same language, but C++ adds a little that makes it easier to make large programs. C is a little trickier, but rewards you by being faster.

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Nezzar NSBQ nut Join Date: Aug 2001 Location: .de Posts: 1,208	Really think C it is faster? It highly depends on the compiler and optimizer your using. __________________ Bred for its skills in magic

September 10th, 2002, 08:27	#10
chillypacman Banned Join Date: Aug 2002 Location: Australia - Perth Posts: 1,057	I prefer to start c++ this is my choice right?

September 10th, 2002, 21:47	#12
ammoQ Emu author Join Date: Mar 2002 Location: Vienna/Austria/Europe Posts: 1,168	chillypacman, don't think that it matters that much which language you choose. Programmers will learn many languages during their lives. __________________ If you think my English is bad, wait till you read my Polish.

September 11th, 2002, 04:07	#13
chillypacman Banned Join Date: Aug 2002 Location: Australia - Perth Posts: 1,057	Do they? wow now thats a prob how many would an average proggramer learn???

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Nezzar NSBQ nut Join Date: Aug 2001 Location: .de Posts: 1,208	Depends on which jobs he has to do. __________________ Bred for its skills in magic

September 12th, 2002, 06:23	#16
ammoQ Emu author Join Date: Mar 2002 Location: Vienna/Austria/Europe Posts: 1,168	chilliypacman, in your age 1-3 languages should be sufficient. In your age, I knew Basic and Z80A-Assembler (actually, that was all available on a Sinclair ZX81). If you plan a carrer as a professional programmer, prepare to learn more languages. __________________ If you think my English is bad, wait till you read my Polish.

September 23rd, 2002, 02:49	#18
Red Knight Registered User Join Date: Sep 2002 Location: Boondocks of NY Posts: 8	i definantly learned c++ first, and unless i am forced to learn c for some bizzare reason i dont intend to... i don't know, i just like the added functionality in c++, which makes it so much more fun to use... course up to this point i haven't had to code anything really really processor intense, but then again if i really had some processor intense portion of code, i would try to write it in assembler, sorta like how ZSNES is coded or something... anyways, the first language i learned was BASIC on an apple IIe, then QBASIC... actually i miss BASIC alot, that language was so simple it was scary... but ya nowadays most people are using either VB, c++, or java... I learned VB when it came out - seemed a natural step from QBASIC, but quite frankly i realized what you did, and VB is evil evil evil evil evil, and moved my butt over to c++... there are assembler programmers out there somewhere, or so i've been told - they rarely see the light of day however... __________________ hmm i used to make cool sigs, but that was when angelfire allowed remote loading... now im too cheap to pay for bandwidth, oh well...