rpg fiighting kinda boring

paulsy · August 14th, 2002, 23:20

i really dont like the ff style of fighting in games but i love rpgs and most are like that but star ocean the second story wich u can change to like full action i think its called and i was wondering if there were any other rpgs with that style of fighting

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Gamer1 · August 14th, 2002, 23:41

bouncer is the closest one

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**Demigod** · August 14th, 2002, 23:52

Try Parasite Eve, it has real-time fighting where you can move around and dodge attacks. Grandia II also has a good battle system.

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Einheri · August 15th, 2002, 00:09

I agree, Grandia II has one of the most elaborate battle systems so far. Valkyrie Profile has a good battle system too.

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Omega · August 15th, 2002, 00:09

Yeah like Demi said Parasite is a good one real-time playing, Grandia is another one and there are some games that are not really rpg where you can hit the guy when walking in the scenario, like legend of mana... there are many different styles you can choose

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Cless · August 15th, 2002, 00:31

Come how did you guys forgot the tales series? Legend of legia is somewaht different. You can some pc games like baldur's gate. valkry(sp) profiles is different and good.

Decoy_Octopus · August 15th, 2002, 00:43

You should probably try vagrant story too. It has an awesome fighting system

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Kaiser Sigma · August 15th, 2002, 02:57

the Grandia series features an impressive battle system other than that I'll go for the tales series and also I found out the battle system at Saga Frontier to be quite fun.

dhkimboa · August 15th, 2002, 02:59

vagrant story is for pc ?

Rhombus · August 15th, 2002, 03:04

Yeah, I think that's the hardest thing about RPG making these days... most of the releases that have been coming out have excellent graphics and sound, and pretty solid plot too. What makes or breaks the game is the battle system... too often battle systems get boring and tiresome over the course of a long RPG. I personally like the FF style, but it can get tiresome... I didn't really get tired of it in FF7, but in FF8 I got so annoyed cause there were far fewer enemies (enemies just levelled up with you and you saw the same enemies from the beginning of the game till the end) and you had to draw all the time... in FF9 I just thought random encounters happened too frequently - in dungeon areas I got attacked like every 2 steps - and I started going crazy by Disc 2 even... even slight variations make a big difference.

I really liked the fighting in Xenogears, cause it's fun to make the combos - and Gear fighting is a different strategy alltogether. Crono Cross kinda used the same style, but I think Xenogears was far simpler

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Decoy_Octopus · August 15th, 2002, 03:20

No, Vagrant Story is for PSX. But with the modern wonder of ePSXe, you can play Vagrant Story on your PC anyway.

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Syed Fawad · August 15th, 2002, 03:27

I am against turn-based-battle system too. The fighting system in PE is more like what I want. Like sometimes you want to just doge out instrad of fighting.

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fujita · August 15th, 2002, 03:36

One thing that I thought is a flaw in Final Fantasy series is the usage of character's voices in battle. Lets compare two different scene in battles, let say, Final Fantasy 8 and Valkyrie Profile. Take the action of Squall's Lion Heart and Lenneth Nibelung Valesti Level 3, compare them both. Can you detect the main difference?

Both moves are cool, but Lenneth beat Squall in term of creating battle atmosphere and heating up the mood, just because she has voices. "Divine assault, Nibelung Valesti!"

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Decoy_Octopus · August 15th, 2002, 03:38

vagrant story's system is pretty good, but the only problem is that it sometimes becomes repetitive.

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paulsy · August 15th, 2002, 03:42

to me its more realistic well as far as vid games cause in a fight its not like ok i hit u then u hit me and see how far this goes............
it just adds to the hole experence of the game imo and ill check out some of those games u sugested

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Cless · August 15th, 2002, 04:11

i almost forgot stragety rpgs. My favorates would the shining forece series, fft, tacts ogre series, bahamut logoon.

fujita · August 15th, 2002, 04:59

Have you try Brigandine? It's quite old, but I think it's neat. Well, at least I think it's better than Hoshigami.

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kougaiji · August 15th, 2002, 05:41

vagrant story should be counted as AVG, if i make the sequel, i will completly remove turn concpet, make it sth like TALES OF VAGRANT

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dolby · August 15th, 2002, 05:54

So far to me best battling system was in Xenogears.
Very unique and refreshing (Characters + Gears).

Also Chrono Trigger was fun till the end, fighting and walking on the same field.

Must not forget about Final Fantasy V and Jobs management, also very entertaing and fun.

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**Kane** · August 15th, 2002, 11:50

My favorite battle systems?
1. Secret of Mana.
2. Chrono Trigger.
3. Xenogears.
4. FFX.
5. Vagrant Story.

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August 14th, 2002, 23:41	#2
Gamer1 Anti-Brand Loyalist Join Date: Mar 2002 Location: Its too dark to tell... Posts: 3,241	bouncer is the closest one __________________ Iris: (Proc:Intel Pentium4 2.8Ghz w/ HT UNLOCKED @ 15x200) (Mobo: Asus P4C800-E) (RAM: Corsair XMS 2x512MB DDR400) (HDD 1: Seagate 80GB, 8MB Buffer, 7200 RPM) (Disk Drive 1: Lite-On 16x DVD Burner 1673S) (GFX Card: Radeon 9800 All-In-Wonder Pro 128MB) (Sound Card: Sound Blaster Audigy) Morrigan: (Proc:AMD Athlon 2500+ @ 11x200) (Mobo: Asrock K7V88) (RAM: Corsair XMS 512MB DDR400) (HDD 1: Seagate 80GB, 8MB Buffer, 7200 RPM) (Disk Drive 1: NEC 16x DVD Burner 3200AG) (GFX Card: Radeon 920064MB) (Sound Card: Sound Blaster Live! 5.1)

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Demigod これはバタスです Join Date: Jun 2001 Location: Toronto, Ontario, Canada Posts: 6,331	Try Parasite Eve, it has real-time fighting where you can move around and dodge attacks. Grandia II also has a good battle system. __________________ CPU: Intel Core 2 Quad Q9450 Mobo: Intel DX48BT2 Memory: 4096 MB PC10600 DDR3 Videocard: PNY Geforce 9800 GX2 Soundcard: On-board SigmaTel High Definition Audio Hard drive: 120 GB OCZ RevoDrive PCI-E SSD & 1 TB Hitachi Optical drive: LG GGW-H20L (2x BD-R DL) PSU: Nexus 1000 Watt PSU OS: Microsoft Windows 7 Ultimate (64-bit) Proud millionaire folder of the NGEmu folding team

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Einheri Registered User Join Date: Jul 2002 Location: Algo solar system Posts: 136	I agree, Grandia II has one of the most elaborate battle systems so far. Valkyrie Profile has a good battle system too. __________________ The more I drink the better you look.

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Omega User addicted to Diazepam Join Date: Jan 2002 Location: WIRED Posts: 4,744	Yeah like Demi said Parasite is a good one real-time playing, Grandia is another one and there are some games that are not really rpg where you can hit the guy when walking in the scenario, like legend of mana... there are many different styles you can choose __________________ .:[ This is your life and it's ending one minute at a time ]:. .:[ I am Alpha and Omega, the beginning and the end, the first and the last]:.

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Cless Banned Join Date: Jan 2002 Posts: 1,809	Come how did you guys forgot the tales series? Legend of legia is somewaht different. You can some pc games like baldur's gate. valkry(sp) profiles is different and good.

August 15th, 2002, 00:43	#7
Decoy_Octopus Master of Disguise Join Date: Jan 2002 Location: Here... again... Posts: 1,508	You should probably try vagrant story too. It has an awesome fighting system __________________ "I contend that any game that draws people in is a good thing, because the more people play computer games, the more the hobby becomes legitimized and loses its social-retard status."- Jeff Green

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Kaiser Sigma ~ Lord of Darkness ~ Join Date: Apr 2002 Location: A place darker than the night. Posts: 15,309	the Grandia series features an impressive battle system other than that I'll go for the tales series and also I found out the battle system at Saga Frontier to be quite fun.

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dhkimboa BOA Join Date: May 2001 Location: Mexico Posts: 1,884	vagrant story is for pc ?

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Rhombus The Moogle Assassin Join Date: May 2002 Location: Boulder, Colorado Posts: 2,081	Yeah, I think that's the hardest thing about RPG making these days... most of the releases that have been coming out have excellent graphics and sound, and pretty solid plot too. What makes or breaks the game is the battle system... too often battle systems get boring and tiresome over the course of a long RPG. I personally like the FF style, but it can get tiresome... I didn't really get tired of it in FF7, but in FF8 I got so annoyed cause there were far fewer enemies (enemies just levelled up with you and you saw the same enemies from the beginning of the game till the end) and you had to draw all the time... in FF9 I just thought random encounters happened too frequently - in dungeon areas I got attacked like every 2 steps - and I started going crazy by Disc 2 even... even slight variations make a big difference. I really liked the fighting in Xenogears, cause it's fun to make the combos - and Gear fighting is a different strategy alltogether. Crono Cross kinda used the same style, but I think Xenogears was far simpler __________________ Processor: Athlon 64 3400+ Mobo: MSI K8T Neo-FIS2R RAM: 1 GB Corsair XMS GFX Card: Sapphire Radeon 9800 Pro 128 Sound Card: SB Audigy 2 ZS HDD1: Seagate 160MB 8MB 7200 HDD2: Seagate 80MB 8MB 7200 Burner: NEC 16x DVDR Keyboard/Mouse: Logitech Cordless MX Duo USB Gamepad1: PS2 Dual Analog/KiKY X USB Gamepad2: Gravis GamePad Pro OS: Windows XP Pro sp2 *Tempus fugit et nos fugimus in illus.* *Fiat justitia; ruat coelum.*

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Decoy_Octopus Master of Disguise Join Date: Jan 2002 Location: Here... again... Posts: 1,508	No, Vagrant Story is for PSX. But with the modern wonder of ePSXe, you can play Vagrant Story on your PC anyway. __________________ "I contend that any game that draws people in is a good thing, because the more people play computer games, the more the hobby becomes legitimized and loses its social-retard status."- Jeff Green

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Syed Fawad -PM to advertise here- Join Date: Nov 2001 Location: In an average country of an average planet of the solar system of an average star of an average galaxy of an average cluster. Still not average... Posts: 8,262	I am against turn-based-battle system too. The fighting system in PE is more like what I want. Like sometimes you want to just doge out instrad of fighting. __________________ Asus K8N (nForce3) AMD64 3000+ (754) 768MB DDR 400MHz (PC 3200) nVidia Geforce 6600GT 128MB (AGP) Aquamark3 - 53,000 "Good friends mustn't always be together. It is the feeling of oneness when distant that proves a lasting friendship"

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fujita Tiger of Jiang Dong Join Date: Sep 2001 Location: Inter Galactic & Dimensional Center Posts: 964	One thing that I thought is a flaw in Final Fantasy series is the usage of character's voices in battle. Lets compare two different scene in battles, let say, Final Fantasy 8 and Valkyrie Profile. Take the action of Squall's Lion Heart and Lenneth Nibelung Valesti Level 3, compare them both. Can you detect the main difference? Both moves are cool, but Lenneth beat Squall in term of creating battle atmosphere and heating up the mood, just because she has voices. "Divine assault, Nibelung Valesti!" __________________ Elly taught us that sometimes sacrifices only lead to more suffering. Aribeth taught us that sometimes the public don't deserve protection. Jeane taught us how important to respect the privacy of others. SOR PROJECT : WHERE EVERYTHING IS REAL

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Decoy_Octopus Master of Disguise Join Date: Jan 2002 Location: Here... again... Posts: 1,508	vagrant story's system is pretty good, but the only problem is that it sometimes becomes repetitive. __________________ "I contend that any game that draws people in is a good thing, because the more people play computer games, the more the hobby becomes legitimized and loses its social-retard status."- Jeff Green

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paulsy and why shouldn't I Join Date: Jul 2002 Location: wisconsin Posts: 305	to me its more realistic well as far as vid games cause in a fight its not like ok i hit u then u hit me and see how far this goes............ it just adds to the hole experence of the game imo and ill check out some of those games u sugested __________________ windows xp 1.8 gig p4 20 gig hd 40 gig hd 256 mb of ram tnt2 m64 "they can beat us but they can't eat us"

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Cless Banned Join Date: Jan 2002 Posts: 1,809	i almost forgot stragety rpgs. My favorates would the shining forece series, fft, tacts ogre series, bahamut logoon.

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fujita Tiger of Jiang Dong Join Date: Sep 2001 Location: Inter Galactic & Dimensional Center Posts: 964	Have you try Brigandine? It's quite old, but I think it's neat. Well, at least I think it's better than Hoshigami. __________________ Elly taught us that sometimes sacrifices only lead to more suffering. Aribeth taught us that sometimes the public don't deserve protection. Jeane taught us how important to respect the privacy of others. SOR PROJECT : WHERE EVERYTHING IS REAL

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kougaiji smile...like an angel Join Date: Jul 2002 Location: sichuan,mianyang,china Posts: 550	vagrant story should be counted as AVG, if i make the sequel, i will completly remove turn concpet, make it sth like TALES OF VAGRANT __________________ cumpter: AMD 2500+ 512mb TNT2 32mb console: PS2

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dolby Registered User Join Date: Aug 2002 Location: within Posts: 35	So far to me best battling system was in Xenogears. Very unique and refreshing (Characters + Gears). Also Chrono Trigger was fun till the end, fighting and walking on the same field. Must not forget about Final Fantasy V and Jobs management, also very entertaing and fun. __________________ ....................................:: d o l b y :::...... ...................................... sense the l i f e

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Kane 邪魔ゎ指せない Join Date: Jan 2002 Location: Gosport, England Posts: 26,303	My favorite battle systems? 1. Secret of Mana. 2. Chrono Trigger. 3. Xenogears. 4. FFX. 5. Vagrant Story. __________________ >Site Live< Pop over to my site for help with setting up PSX emulators. Help for the Final Fantasies and other RPGs avalaible Celes: (Desktop) Phenom II X4, 4Gb DDR2, GeForce 8800 GTS 320Mb, 32Gb OCZ Vertex SSD, 500Gb RAID HDD, Windows 7 Home Premium Erika: (MCPC) Revo3610, Windows 7 Home Premium Kimiko: (Craptop) HP Mini 210