I know it's just a dream, but...

dolby · August 13th, 2002, 08:19

I have been playing RPG games for 4-5 years. At the beginning on SNES and NES emulator (I tried even GB emu, but those RPG games were so stupid, I think), later on PC (Diablo 1 &2, Dungeon Master, Eye of the Beholder...).

Then I started to really love japanese RPG games on PSX. I guess these games give me what I like, nice graphics ( I am wondering what time do they spent to create such a awesome gfx), deep plot and original game systems.

BUT...

Always I have been dreaming about game that will fulfill all my expectations. I know, this is not only my point of view, probably everyone of you want to experience game that will have simply EVERYTHING. Till know every game had lack of something, I don't know what it was, but I was always missing a piece.

I put this thread here, just to think about what this everything in "ultimate RPG game" should be...

Thanks for your ideas in advance.

P.S. I feel like Xenogears was in chance to be that game (to me), but even creators admitted that the game was not finished as intended. There was, as usual, missing a piece...

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**Shiori** · August 13th, 2002, 12:06

It's gotta have dating, like Thousand Arms.

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Sir Key · August 13th, 2002, 14:22

project ego will have it all... al we've missed until now.. goto: http://www.lionhead.co.uk/ (nice background music btw

) then click on games and then on project ego... this game is so amazing because:
you start as á young little hero... you can run around without limitations through a huge map... now that's not so special BUT.... the character gets older... and taller and if you start prcatising you get muscles if you wanna use spells and stuff you won't be such s trong person... also if you get a scar you will have it your whole life long... the people you meet on your way get older too... imagine: when you are young you save a little girl from a baaad grizzly and 10 years later you come back and are a hero for her... btw she got some biiiiig "front bumpers" and loves you more than anything else

... the kewl thing about this game is that even if you wanna burn down a house or so you can actually do it... look at some of the screenies you will be amazed... also there's something like the karma... if you're bad all the time people will probably know and start attacking you and stuff like that... i think this game (by peter moulineux [is this his name??]) will make a real breaktrough... i nearly forgot to say that you can also customize your character and one very amazing plot is that tree's and plants grow older too... i'm not sure but i heard there'd be a main plot but you don't have to solve it... you can also just skip it and walk around and kill some rabbits... (die all rabbits *nyahahahaharrr*

)

edit: here: http://planetxbox.com/projectego/ youll find some interestin´g info's oh btw the game won't only be available for xbox... the pc realease is also planned... i know xbox sucks quite d**k but hey the game's great...

Quatro · August 13th, 2002, 14:36

it should properly blend the past and future RPG theme... and have a good plot for it.

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Syed Fawad · August 13th, 2002, 14:42

This game is something. If it comes out to be what it is supposed to be, this game alone can raise XBOX's sale.

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Recca · August 13th, 2002, 14:56

I belive the same was said for Morrowind, must certainly didn't live up to it.

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Syed Fawad · August 13th, 2002, 15:02

Morrowind? never heard of it

It'll be a loss if this game is released ONLY for XBOX.

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Recca · August 13th, 2002, 15:04

bet a $ it will be for pc to, just like almost all games on X-box, they get realeased in pc also.

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Sir Key · August 13th, 2002, 15:10

this game was started to develop before the x-box came out.. first it was only a pc game... then i guess microsoft saw what potential lives up in this games and simply bought it... so they can bring it out for xbox too... also morrowind has a story in this game you can do whatever you want... you can go north east south west or just stay where you are and get old and grey... another nice feature is that you can tattoo yourself in the face or the body or whereever

**SimonMallion** · August 13th, 2002, 17:14

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Originally posted by hybrid23
project ego will have it all... al we've missed until now.. goto: http://www.lionhead.co.uk/ (nice background music btw ) then click on games and then on project ego... this game is so amazing because:
you start as á young little hero... you can run around without limitations through a huge map... now that's not so special BUT.... the character gets older... and taller and if you start prcatising you get muscles if you wanna use spells and stuff you won't be such s trong person... also if you get a scar you will have it your whole life long... the people you meet on your way get older too... imagine: when you are young you save a little girl from a baaad grizzly and 10 years later you come back and are a hero for her... btw she got some biiiiig "front bumpers" and loves you more than anything else ... the kewl thing about this game is that even if you wanna burn down a house or so you can actually do it... look at some of the screenies you will be amazed... also there's something like the karma... if you're bad all the time people will probably know and start attacking you and stuff like that... i think this game (by peter moulineux [is this his name??]) will make a real breaktrough... i nearly forgot to say that you can also customize your character and one very amazing plot is that tree's and plants grow older too... i'm not sure but i heard there'd be a main plot but you don't have to solve it... you can also just skip it and walk around and kill some rabbits... (die all rabbits *nyahahahaharrr* )

edit: here: http://planetxbox.com/projectego/ youll find some interestin´g info's oh btw the game won't only be available for xbox... the pc realease is also planned... i know xbox sucks quite d**k but hey the game's great...

Game looks cool, but one question: Can you die from old age?

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Sir Key · August 13th, 2002, 17:30

yeah i think so... a life goes from something like 16 ( or so) to 70 (not quite sure) a nice feature is that noone can tell you now... go to that path at that time and you'll meet that guy who gives you this... it depends on what you do for example (it's gettig weird) let's say you talk to some guy in town this guy talks to YOU now for a while so he can't do what he wanted to do at that time (or example buy some apples) now let's say that the guy you wanted to meet who gives you something goes to exactly that shop and buys the apples that normally wouldn't have been there and suddenly he got something to do (eat apples) and can't be on that special place at that special time... okok maybe i'm overdoing it a bit but it would be cool

Syed Fawad · August 13th, 2002, 17:38

You lost me. I didn't understand even a single phrase of your last post, hybrid23. Will you elaborate it

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Nameless · August 14th, 2002, 02:24

I heard about this game some time ago and I really liked the idea that if u stayed indoors and underground alot (basicly, away from the sun) u'd turn into a pale vampire!! I think there's a screen shot of that. BTW, Halo had the same treatment. It was first PC only then Microsoft bought it and delayed it like hell then made it XBOX exclusive and who knows if it will really be released on the PC. But in my opinian, this game won't make it. There's just too much freedom for the "feel" of an RPG to be there. They'll either ristrict u and make it a good normal RPG or leave u so much freedom it would turn into a life simulator

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Syed Fawad · August 14th, 2002, 02:29

Perhaps birth of a new genre? something like "Life Simulator"

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Nameless · August 14th, 2002, 02:43

And if Shiori has his was, it would have his fav person hidden somewhere in the game world

About the game world, where is the setting? I can't imagine a game that will tell u later that u can't fight the last boss 'cause u're way too old

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Syed Fawad · August 14th, 2002, 02:47

And it continues, like you teach your son your skills, or something; cool

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Nameless · August 14th, 2002, 02:50

Nah, it would then be something like a never ending The Game movie

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Einheri · August 14th, 2002, 03:02

This game seems to be good, but it's definitely not a japanese RPG. So there most likely won't be any characters player can become attached to, gripping storyline and other traits we love japanese RPGs for...

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Syed Fawad · August 14th, 2002, 03:02

I mean it should be placed instead of the "Game over screen"

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PMD · August 14th, 2002, 03:06

wat would really be kool is maybe start when u r 5 (make the time go by fast) so u can get 2 kno the character n ppl n then slow it down when u get older that way u can either be a loud rebelious kid or a quiet goody goody n maybe make it in the future but not 2 distant or the past (i think we have 2 many past rpgs)

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look at the horror that i managed 2 scrapu up

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Will it be released on any platform other then the Xbox?
At the time of writing...no. There are no plans for any sort of port to other platforms. You'll have to buy the Xbox to play this one.

i just hope this isnt true otherwise thisll REALLY suck

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August 13th, 2002, 08:19	#1
dolby Registered User Join Date: Aug 2002 Location: within Posts: 35	I know it's just a dream, but... I have been playing RPG games for 4-5 years. At the beginning on SNES and NES emulator (I tried even GB emu, but those RPG games were so stupid, I think), later on PC (Diablo 1 &2, Dungeon Master, Eye of the Beholder...). Then I started to really love japanese RPG games on PSX. I guess these games give me what I like, nice graphics ( I am wondering what time do they spent to create such a awesome gfx), deep plot and original game systems. BUT... Always I have been dreaming about game that will fulfill all my expectations. I know, this is not only my point of view, probably everyone of you want to experience game that will have simply EVERYTHING. Till know every game had lack of something, I don't know what it was, but I was always missing a piece. I put this thread here, just to think about what this everything in "ultimate RPG game" should be... Thanks for your ideas in advance. P.S. I feel like Xenogears was in chance to be that game (to me), but even creators admitted that the game was not finished as intended. There was, as usual, missing a piece... __________________ ....................................:: d o l b y :::...... ...................................... sense the l i f e

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August 13th, 2002, 12:06	#2
Shiori :3 Join Date: Aug 2001 Location: Seoul, South Korea Posts: 10,128	It's gotta have dating, like Thousand Arms. __________________ My PC specs: AMD Athlon Thunderbird 1.1 Ghz, ECS Elitegroup K7S5A, 256MB PC133 SDRAM, Geforce2 MX200 32MB, 20GB Seagate, Windows XP Pro. Ok, what else... Shiori figurine on top of case, assorted anime stickers on the side, lazy tabby cat on top of monitor.

August 13th, 2002, 14:22	#3
Sir Key Banned Join Date: Jul 2002 Location: Nirvana Posts: 1,947	project ego will have it all... al we've missed until now.. goto: http://www.lionhead.co.uk/ (nice background music btw ) then click on games and then on project ego... this game is so amazing because: you start as á young little hero... you can run around without limitations through a huge map... now that's not so special BUT.... the character gets older... and taller and if you start prcatising you get muscles if you wanna use spells and stuff you won't be such s trong person... also if you get a scar you will have it your whole life long... the people you meet on your way get older too... imagine: when you are young you save a little girl from a baaad grizzly and 10 years later you come back and are a hero for her... btw she got some biiiiig "front bumpers" and loves you more than anything else ... the kewl thing about this game is that even if you wanna burn down a house or so you can actually do it... look at some of the screenies you will be amazed... also there's something like the karma... if you're bad all the time people will probably know and start attacking you and stuff like that... i think this game (by peter moulineux [is this his name??]) will make a real breaktrough... i nearly forgot to say that you can also customize your character and one very amazing plot is that tree's and plants grow older too... i'm not sure but i heard there'd be a main plot but you don't have to solve it... you can also just skip it and walk around and kill some rabbits... (die all rabbits nyahahahaharrr ) edit: here: http://planetxbox.com/projectego/ youll find some interestin´g info's oh btw the game won't only be available for xbox... the pc realease is also planned... i know xbox sucks quite d**k but hey the game's great...

August 13th, 2002, 14:36	#4
Quatro Just visiting ^_^ Join Date: Mar 2002 Location: Laguna Posts: 8,299	it should properly blend the past and future RPG theme... and have a good plot for it. __________________ - when you think that you have accomplish so much, many think of it as so little...

August 13th, 2002, 14:42	#5
Syed Fawad -PM to advertise here- Join Date: Nov 2001 Location: In an average country of an average planet of the solar system of an average star of an average galaxy of an average cluster. Still not average... Posts: 8,262	This game is something. If it comes out to be what it is supposed to be, this game alone can raise XBOX's sale. __________________ Asus K8N (nForce3) AMD64 3000+ (754) 768MB DDR 400MHz (PC 3200) nVidia Geforce 6600GT 128MB (AGP) Aquamark3 - 53,000 "Good friends mustn't always be together. It is the feeling of oneness when distant that proves a lasting friendship"

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Recca Registered User Join Date: Feb 2002 Location: Where ever fate shall lead me. Posts: 3,941	I belive the same was said for Morrowind, must certainly didn't live up to it. __________________ この世に悪があるとすれば、それは人の心だ。エドワ-ド・D・モリスン

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Syed Fawad -PM to advertise here- Join Date: Nov 2001 Location: In an average country of an average planet of the solar system of an average star of an average galaxy of an average cluster. Still not average... Posts: 8,262	Morrowind? never heard of it It'll be a loss if this game is released ONLY for XBOX. __________________ Asus K8N (nForce3) AMD64 3000+ (754) 768MB DDR 400MHz (PC 3200) nVidia Geforce 6600GT 128MB (AGP) Aquamark3 - 53,000 "Good friends mustn't always be together. It is the feeling of oneness when distant that proves a lasting friendship"

August 13th, 2002, 15:04	#8
Recca Registered User Join Date: Feb 2002 Location: Where ever fate shall lead me. Posts: 3,941	bet a $ it will be for pc to, just like almost all games on X-box, they get realeased in pc also. __________________ この世に悪があるとすれば、それは人の心だ。エドワ-ド・D・モリスン

August 13th, 2002, 15:10	#9
Sir Key Banned Join Date: Jul 2002 Location: Nirvana Posts: 1,947	this game was started to develop before the x-box came out.. first it was only a pc game... then i guess microsoft saw what potential lives up in this games and simply bought it... so they can bring it out for xbox too... also morrowind has a story in this game you can do whatever you want... you can go north east south west or just stay where you are and get old and grey... another nice feature is that you can tattoo yourself in the face or the body or whereever

August 13th, 2002, 17:30	#11
Sir Key Banned Join Date: Jul 2002 Location: Nirvana Posts: 1,947	yeah i think so... a life goes from something like 16 ( or so) to 70 (not quite sure) a nice feature is that noone can tell you now... go to that path at that time and you'll meet that guy who gives you this... it depends on what you do for example (it's gettig weird) let's say you talk to some guy in town this guy talks to YOU now for a while so he can't do what he wanted to do at that time (or example buy some apples) now let's say that the guy you wanted to meet who gives you something goes to exactly that shop and buys the apples that normally wouldn't have been there and suddenly he got something to do (eat apples) and can't be on that special place at that special time... okok maybe i'm overdoing it a bit but it would be cool

August 13th, 2002, 17:38	#12
Syed Fawad -PM to advertise here- Join Date: Nov 2001 Location: In an average country of an average planet of the solar system of an average star of an average galaxy of an average cluster. Still not average... Posts: 8,262	You lost me. I didn't understand even a single phrase of your last post, hybrid23. Will you elaborate it __________________ Asus K8N (nForce3) AMD64 3000+ (754) 768MB DDR 400MHz (PC 3200) nVidia Geforce 6600GT 128MB (AGP) Aquamark3 - 53,000 "Good friends mustn't always be together. It is the feeling of oneness when distant that proves a lasting friendship"

August 14th, 2002, 02:24	#13
Nameless r u really that bored? :P Join Date: Jan 2002 Location: Saudi Arabia Posts: 1,925	I heard about this game some time ago and I really liked the idea that if u stayed indoors and underground alot (basicly, away from the sun) u'd turn into a pale vampire!! I think there's a screen shot of that. BTW, Halo had the same treatment. It was first PC only then Microsoft bought it and delayed it like hell then made it XBOX exclusive and who knows if it will really be released on the PC. But in my opinian, this game won't make it. There's just too much freedom for the "feel" of an RPG to be there. They'll either ristrict u and make it a good normal RPG or leave u so much freedom it would turn into a life simulator ) __________________ --To every problem, there is a solution (other than death, of course ). So, just smile!!.....okay that's a load of crap but you already know that. 3 years and still fighting!! Systems: - Modified Mac Mini: 2GHz Core Duo, 2GB RAM, 100GB 7200RPM HD, Dual-Boot Mac & XP - HP Tablet PC TC1100: 1.1GHz Centrino, 1GB RAM, 60GB 7200RPM HD, Vista Ultimate

August 14th, 2002, 02:29	#14
Syed Fawad -PM to advertise here- Join Date: Nov 2001 Location: In an average country of an average planet of the solar system of an average star of an average galaxy of an average cluster. Still not average... Posts: 8,262	Perhaps birth of a new genre? something like "Life Simulator" __________________ Asus K8N (nForce3) AMD64 3000+ (754) 768MB DDR 400MHz (PC 3200) nVidia Geforce 6600GT 128MB (AGP) Aquamark3 - 53,000 "Good friends mustn't always be together. It is the feeling of oneness when distant that proves a lasting friendship"

August 14th, 2002, 02:43	#15
Nameless r u really that bored? :P Join Date: Jan 2002 Location: Saudi Arabia Posts: 1,925	And if Shiori has his was, it would have his fav person hidden somewhere in the game world About the game world, where is the setting? I can't imagine a game that will tell u later that u can't fight the last boss 'cause u're way too old __________________ --To every problem, there is a solution (other than death, of course ). So, just smile!!.....okay that's a load of crap but you already know that. 3 years and still fighting!! Systems: - Modified Mac Mini: 2GHz Core Duo, 2GB RAM, 100GB 7200RPM HD, Dual-Boot Mac & XP - HP Tablet PC TC1100: 1.1GHz Centrino, 1GB RAM, 60GB 7200RPM HD, Vista Ultimate

August 14th, 2002, 02:47	#16
Syed Fawad -PM to advertise here- Join Date: Nov 2001 Location: In an average country of an average planet of the solar system of an average star of an average galaxy of an average cluster. Still not average... Posts: 8,262	And it continues, like you teach your son your skills, or something; cool __________________ Asus K8N (nForce3) AMD64 3000+ (754) 768MB DDR 400MHz (PC 3200) nVidia Geforce 6600GT 128MB (AGP) Aquamark3 - 53,000 "Good friends mustn't always be together. It is the feeling of oneness when distant that proves a lasting friendship"

August 14th, 2002, 02:50	#17
Nameless r u really that bored? :P Join Date: Jan 2002 Location: Saudi Arabia Posts: 1,925	Nah, it would then be something like a never ending The Game movie __________________ --To every problem, there is a solution (other than death, of course ). So, just smile!!.....okay that's a load of crap but you already know that. 3 years and still fighting!! Systems: - Modified Mac Mini: 2GHz Core Duo, 2GB RAM, 100GB 7200RPM HD, Dual-Boot Mac & XP - HP Tablet PC TC1100: 1.1GHz Centrino, 1GB RAM, 60GB 7200RPM HD, Vista Ultimate

August 14th, 2002, 03:02	#18
Einheri Registered User Join Date: Jul 2002 Location: Algo solar system Posts: 136	This game seems to be good, but it's definitely not a japanese RPG. So there most likely won't be any characters player can become attached to, gripping storyline and other traits we love japanese RPGs for... __________________ The more I drink the better you look.