Cowboy Bebop?! WHY?!

GhettoRob · August 1st, 2002, 10:11

now, don't catch me wrong on this. Liquid, yer Avatar is cool and all, i just have other feelings towrds CB. i rented quite a few of them frommy local Videa store. maybe the first 6 or 8 episodes. and ya know, i realy didn'c care for them. i don't know why, but i hear about it all over the net. and many folks i meet in the real world don't care for it either. there has been but a handful of people hat i have met that like it. me, for soome realson i like Outlaw Stor more than CB. and don;t you say that i'mnot an anime fan. ive seen more anime than most peeps i meet. and the more i see, the more i see that suck. (no, that is true. any anime fan will say that Most Anime are just ripoffs of another). so i am wondering if anyone else here dosn;t like CB. the first few were cool, but after that, it didnt hold my interest anymore. How about the irresponsible Captian Tylor? or Bastard! orGSC? DTP? i know i shouldn't bring up DTP, but i cuoldn't help it. what about Al purpose Cat girl Nuku Nuku? i used to love the Ranma Manga, but i don't care for the series all that much. and i'll throw the dubbed right out my 2nd story window. The Japanese versions of DBZ are OK. the movies are the best, and that's how i know them, unfortunately. Gundam is tight, but most are too slow for me. Slayers.. well they had their moments. "Goury! is that the sword of light! can i have it?!" hehehe... orange road, is ok. not bad. .. well this is already too long... so, Neon Geninsis- SO TIGHT- and i jsut saw the movie, and want to see the one they released to "help clear things up," sorta speak. Lodess war, the first few were cool, then they kinda got old. Arislan... well those are alright, the the womanly looking prince and all. but it wasn;t that bad...
you tell me other good ones worth watching... series that is. movies are anothe topic. OH YEAH- and Rirouni Kinshen! cannot forget that- have you ever read teh manga? now that is tight! and don't mention blue seed, it just pisses me off- it's like everyone i rent is not for me, but everyont tells me that saw the wrong ones.

But can you guess my all time fave?
-GhettoRob(otech)

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Gamer1 · August 1st, 2002, 10:14

cowboy bebop is to slow in my opinion and i don't really like it. i prefer outlaw star as well also.

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GhettoRob · August 1st, 2002, 10:16

thank you! now i feel more confident about this thread.

Gamer1 · August 1st, 2002, 10:26

robotech is awesome but the second series sort of sucked compared to the first one w/ rick hunter and lisa hayes. the blonde girl and the whole tripling thing was okay, but at least the second series got more in depth than the first one.

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vivrantpig · August 1st, 2002, 11:28

cowboy bebop is a great series i have no idea why u dont like it and you shouldnt judge an anime without seeing the whole series first.... unless its something like kenshin or slam dunk.. IMHO cowboy bebop is 10 times better then robotech

**Kurbster** · August 1st, 2002, 16:38

Don't badmouth Cowboy Bebop. It's the only cool thing on from 11PM to 2AM (and I watch to that time, no sleep for me)

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Gamer1 · August 1st, 2002, 18:07

i've seen about 13 eps of cowboy bebop and the anime just doesn't click to me. hey, everyone is entitiled towards their own opinion.

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**Kurbster** · August 1st, 2002, 18:11

I will admit, it is quite confusing at first, but a couple of episodes later, you will start to get the picture of it. Some of the scenes are quite interesting and different. And the credits music are in French or some sort, is it dubed?

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liquid · August 1st, 2002, 18:20

ha, macross is my favorite anime too!

but I also like cowboy beebop, the artwork is very good and it has a pretty decent story as well

Anyways, I want to see the rest of "ping pong club" that anime is just too funny

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jegHegy · August 1st, 2002, 19:58

one of my favorites is Cowboy BeBop, and i agree with vivrantpig. watch it to the end, and then you can tell. also, don't miss the movie . and a big advice: never EVER watch dubbed anime. you'll regret it!
nyaaa

n0estoy · August 2nd, 2002, 05:40

i have been watching anime for the longest while, but due to the places i've lived in, i haven't been exposed to a wide range. Cowboy Beebop however, i think is really cool. At first i didn't like it, but when i saw the last episode, i gave the series a second chance. the last episode alone was enuff to put that series above a lot of crap anime i've seen (like outlaw star

but the ending song is nice). Rurouni Kenshin is one of the best things i've seen, and Captain Tsubasa will always be special. DBZ was entertaining most of the time, but the movies i've seen are so much cooler. I really want to see Neon Genesis Evangelion. Is the Irresponsible Captian Tylor that commedy about the commander of a space craft? If so, i didn't like it at all.

edit: Oh, and i think i saw a robotech movie lately but i'm not sure. It centers around 2 competing pilots and a girl that came between them. It also contains an AI popstar that goes insane and tries to take over...was that robotech? whatever it was, it was good. Especially the last few scenes.

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Neo_ZX · August 2nd, 2002, 08:52

I watched the whole series and I thought is was very stylish but wasn't a smooth flowing story. It seemed like just random episodes with a bit of the past thrown in here and there until the end.

All in all, I didn't care about the characters a great deal and thought it was quite boring to be honest. I mean I liked the action and it was funny at times but ended up as a time killing anime for me. The characters could have been much more interesting but I felt that they weren't developed enough to relate to on a "caring" level.

I give it a 6.5/10. I don't know what everyone seems to love it as it's pretty mediocre in my book.

Berzerk is another one that everyone seems to like that I just don't get. If it followed more closely to the Manga then it might've been better. The supernatural elements just weren't paced correctly and the ending provided no closure. Some ppl might think everyone just died if they forgot about the first episode.

Otherwise I thought the story was quite good. Very Shakespear-ish. The execution in bringing in the "true" plot was just poorly done.

In terms of character development I think Trigun and Kenshin did a good job. Granted Kenshin was a superlong series but I really enjoyed the characters. Part 2 of Seisouhen was really nice. Just a matter of taste I guess. I don't mean to generalize but I guess you can kinda think of it like how some people may prefer RPGs and some need a quick fix like Street Fighter or CS.

GhettoRob · August 3rd, 2002, 23:23

Yeah- the second series of Robotech was kinda weak. Macross Plus was pretty cool, and Macross II was cool, with Feff (The Bad dude in the Red Mech). i think that is the one you saw Andre, where they needed the singing to 'help win the battle.' that was kinda awkward for me. didn't get that... it made sence in the story, but it didn;t make sense to make that the plot... but i am totaly bias o Robotech anyway- when i was 3 i watched all eleven hours (japanese) in one day, like two or three times. so it was my introduction to both anime, and cartoons. then came along Transormers.

i still watch that movie.
i probly will give Bbop another shot when i have nothing to rent. but i still believe it's not wahat everyone says it is.
YES Ping Pong club! i've been meaning to see that, but haven't found the time.

n0estoy · August 4th, 2002, 03:22

ah, that was it. It was the Macross Plus movie. The singing was actually a bad thing. It was messing with the main guys' head and threatened to hypnotize him. What he did do avoid it was one of the cooler scenes in the movie.

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**Kurbster** · August 6th, 2002, 17:31

Good session last Saturday. It was the one when everyone became crazy from mushrooms. Now I know why everyone says the redhead is crazy

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vivrantpig · August 6th, 2002, 17:51

... -_- it sucks to wtach in on cartoon netowork go buy the dvds so u can hear em in jap

**Kurbster** · August 6th, 2002, 19:21

DVD drive, here we come

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(F)ragnarok(F) · August 6th, 2002, 20:20

ill always recommend Onegai Teacher. but not to those of u who just likes action animes. n where do u dl episodes of slam dunk? i've dled episode 1-101, but that was it....

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SuperDethMunky · August 6th, 2002, 23:32

Yes, most anime does suck horribly. Cowboy Bebop is just another drop in the bucket -- an awful, pretentious show that's just another serial anime series. Woopee. I'm not even going to touch Gundam, Blue Seed or Dragonball -- these series are frigging terrible. But there I've gone pissing off 13-year-olds again...

However, what do you expect? Any cultural medium is going to have 99% crap -- especially on TV. I think that makes the really good stuff that much better.

Gamer1 · August 6th, 2002, 23:41

ranma is pretty good, i love shows that could make me laugh

along w/ love hina, nadesico, and etc.

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August 1st, 2002, 10:14	#2
Gamer1 Anti-Brand Loyalist Join Date: Mar 2002 Location: Its too dark to tell... Posts: 3,241	cowboy bebop is to slow in my opinion and i don't really like it. i prefer outlaw star as well also. __________________ Iris: (Proc:Intel Pentium4 2.8Ghz w/ HT UNLOCKED @ 15x200) (Mobo: Asus P4C800-E) (RAM: Corsair XMS 2x512MB DDR400) (HDD 1: Seagate 80GB, 8MB Buffer, 7200 RPM) (Disk Drive 1: Lite-On 16x DVD Burner 1673S) (GFX Card: Radeon 9800 All-In-Wonder Pro 128MB) (Sound Card: Sound Blaster Audigy) Morrigan: (Proc:AMD Athlon 2500+ @ 11x200) (Mobo: Asrock K7V88) (RAM: Corsair XMS 512MB DDR400) (HDD 1: Seagate 80GB, 8MB Buffer, 7200 RPM) (Disk Drive 1: NEC 16x DVD Burner 3200AG) (GFX Card: Radeon 920064MB) (Sound Card: Sound Blaster Live! 5.1)

August 1st, 2002, 10:16	#3
GhettoRob Registered User Join Date: Jul 2002 Location: Joe Moma's house Posts: 71	thank you! now i feel more confident about this thread.

August 1st, 2002, 10:26	#4
Gamer1 Anti-Brand Loyalist Join Date: Mar 2002 Location: Its too dark to tell... Posts: 3,241	robotech is awesome but the second series sort of sucked compared to the first one w/ rick hunter and lisa hayes. the blonde girl and the whole tripling thing was okay, but at least the second series got more in depth than the first one. __________________ Iris: (Proc:Intel Pentium4 2.8Ghz w/ HT UNLOCKED @ 15x200) (Mobo: Asus P4C800-E) (RAM: Corsair XMS 2x512MB DDR400) (HDD 1: Seagate 80GB, 8MB Buffer, 7200 RPM) (Disk Drive 1: Lite-On 16x DVD Burner 1673S) (GFX Card: Radeon 9800 All-In-Wonder Pro 128MB) (Sound Card: Sound Blaster Audigy) Morrigan: (Proc:AMD Athlon 2500+ @ 11x200) (Mobo: Asrock K7V88) (RAM: Corsair XMS 512MB DDR400) (HDD 1: Seagate 80GB, 8MB Buffer, 7200 RPM) (Disk Drive 1: NEC 16x DVD Burner 3200AG) (GFX Card: Radeon 920064MB) (Sound Card: Sound Blaster Live! 5.1)

August 1st, 2002, 11:28	#5
vivrantpig (>^_^)> KIRBY Join Date: Sep 2001 Posts: 2,612	cowboy bebop is a great series i have no idea why u dont like it and you shouldnt judge an anime without seeing the whole series first.... unless its something like kenshin or slam dunk.. IMHO cowboy bebop is 10 times better then robotech

August 1st, 2002, 16:38	#6
Kurbster Administrator Join Date: Mar 2002 Location: Massachusetts, USA Posts: 9,439	Don't badmouth Cowboy Bebop. It's the only cool thing on from 11PM to 2AM (and I watch to that time, no sleep for me) __________________

August 1st, 2002, 18:07	#7
Gamer1 Anti-Brand Loyalist Join Date: Mar 2002 Location: Its too dark to tell... Posts: 3,241	i've seen about 13 eps of cowboy bebop and the anime just doesn't click to me. hey, everyone is entitiled towards their own opinion. __________________ Iris: (Proc:Intel Pentium4 2.8Ghz w/ HT UNLOCKED @ 15x200) (Mobo: Asus P4C800-E) (RAM: Corsair XMS 2x512MB DDR400) (HDD 1: Seagate 80GB, 8MB Buffer, 7200 RPM) (Disk Drive 1: Lite-On 16x DVD Burner 1673S) (GFX Card: Radeon 9800 All-In-Wonder Pro 128MB) (Sound Card: Sound Blaster Audigy) Morrigan: (Proc:AMD Athlon 2500+ @ 11x200) (Mobo: Asrock K7V88) (RAM: Corsair XMS 512MB DDR400) (HDD 1: Seagate 80GB, 8MB Buffer, 7200 RPM) (Disk Drive 1: NEC 16x DVD Burner 3200AG) (GFX Card: Radeon 920064MB) (Sound Card: Sound Blaster Live! 5.1)

August 1st, 2002, 18:11	#8
Kurbster Administrator Join Date: Mar 2002 Location: Massachusetts, USA Posts: 9,439	I will admit, it is quite confusing at first, but a couple of episodes later, you will start to get the picture of it. Some of the scenes are quite interesting and different. And the credits music are in French or some sort, is it dubed? __________________

August 1st, 2002, 18:20	#9
liquid Ebichu! Join Date: Apr 2001 Location: Tampa Bay, Florida Posts: 2,091	ha, macross is my favorite anime too! but I also like cowboy beebop, the artwork is very good and it has a pretty decent story as well Anyways, I want to see the rest of "ping pong club" that anime is just too funny __________________ ...no sig for now

August 1st, 2002, 19:58	#10
jegHegy Registered User Join Date: May 2001 Location: Hungary Posts: 2,184	one of my favorites is Cowboy BeBop, and i agree with vivrantpig. watch it to the end, and then you can tell. also, don't miss the movie . and a big advice: never EVER watch dubbed anime. you'll regret it! nyaaa

August 2nd, 2002, 05:40	#11
n0estoy old-timer Join Date: Apr 2001 Location: texas Posts: 1,319	i have been watching anime for the longest while, but due to the places i've lived in, i haven't been exposed to a wide range. Cowboy Beebop however, i think is really cool. At first i didn't like it, but when i saw the last episode, i gave the series a second chance. the last episode alone was enuff to put that series above a lot of crap anime i've seen (like outlaw star but the ending song is nice). Rurouni Kenshin is one of the best things i've seen, and Captain Tsubasa will always be special. DBZ was entertaining most of the time, but the movies i've seen are so much cooler. I really want to see Neon Genesis Evangelion. Is the Irresponsible Captian Tylor that commedy about the commander of a space craft? If so, i didn't like it at all. edit: Oh, and i think i saw a robotech movie lately but i'm not sure. It centers around 2 competing pilots and a girl that came between them. It also contains an AI popstar that goes insane and tries to take over...was that robotech? whatever it was, it was good. Especially the last few scenes. __________________ .::system specs::.foxconn rs233.:.zotac g43-itx.:.intel e5200.:.vertex2 90gb ssd.:.ati hd5570.:.2gb ddr2 ram.:.liteon bdrom.:.win7.:.xbmc:. .::playing::. SF4.:.FF Tactics:. .::listening::.mia.:.gorrilaz.:.lady sov.:.sigur ros.:.bebel gilberto:. .::watching::.naruto.:.outsourced.:.family guy.:.american dad.:.30 rock:.

August 2nd, 2002, 08:52	#12
Neo_ZX Registered User Join Date: Apr 2001 Posts: 186	I watched the whole series and I thought is was very stylish but wasn't a smooth flowing story. It seemed like just random episodes with a bit of the past thrown in here and there until the end. All in all, I didn't care about the characters a great deal and thought it was quite boring to be honest. I mean I liked the action and it was funny at times but ended up as a time killing anime for me. The characters could have been much more interesting but I felt that they weren't developed enough to relate to on a "caring" level. I give it a 6.5/10. I don't know what everyone seems to love it as it's pretty mediocre in my book. Berzerk is another one that everyone seems to like that I just don't get. If it followed more closely to the Manga then it might've been better. The supernatural elements just weren't paced correctly and the ending provided no closure. Some ppl might think everyone just died if they forgot about the first episode. Otherwise I thought the story was quite good. Very Shakespear-ish. The execution in bringing in the "true" plot was just poorly done. In terms of character development I think Trigun and Kenshin did a good job. Granted Kenshin was a superlong series but I really enjoyed the characters. Part 2 of Seisouhen was really nice. Just a matter of taste I guess. I don't mean to generalize but I guess you can kinda think of it like how some people may prefer RPGs and some need a quick fix like Street Fighter or CS.

August 3rd, 2002, 23:23	#13
GhettoRob Registered User Join Date: Jul 2002 Location: Joe Moma's house Posts: 71	Yeah- the second series of Robotech was kinda weak. Macross Plus was pretty cool, and Macross II was cool, with Feff (The Bad dude in the Red Mech). i think that is the one you saw Andre, where they needed the singing to 'help win the battle.' that was kinda awkward for me. didn't get that... it made sence in the story, but it didn;t make sense to make that the plot... but i am totaly bias o Robotech anyway- when i was 3 i watched all eleven hours (japanese) in one day, like two or three times. so it was my introduction to both anime, and cartoons. then came along Transormers. i still watch that movie. i probly will give Bbop another shot when i have nothing to rent. but i still believe it's not wahat everyone says it is. YES Ping Pong club! i've been meaning to see that, but haven't found the time.

August 4th, 2002, 03:22	#14
n0estoy old-timer Join Date: Apr 2001 Location: texas Posts: 1,319	ah, that was it. It was the Macross Plus movie. The singing was actually a bad thing. It was messing with the main guys' head and threatened to hypnotize him. What he did do avoid it was one of the cooler scenes in the movie. __________________ .::system specs::.foxconn rs233.:.zotac g43-itx.:.intel e5200.:.vertex2 90gb ssd.:.ati hd5570.:.2gb ddr2 ram.:.liteon bdrom.:.win7.:.xbmc:. .::playing::. SF4.:.FF Tactics:. .::listening::.mia.:.gorrilaz.:.lady sov.:.sigur ros.:.bebel gilberto:. .::watching::.naruto.:.outsourced.:.family guy.:.american dad.:.30 rock:.

August 6th, 2002, 17:31	#15
Kurbster Administrator Join Date: Mar 2002 Location: Massachusetts, USA Posts: 9,439	Good session last Saturday. It was the one when everyone became crazy from mushrooms. Now I know why everyone says the redhead is crazy __________________

August 6th, 2002, 17:51	#16
vivrantpig (>^_^)> KIRBY Join Date: Sep 2001 Posts: 2,612	... -_- it sucks to wtach in on cartoon netowork go buy the dvds so u can hear em in jap

August 6th, 2002, 19:21	#17
Kurbster Administrator Join Date: Mar 2002 Location: Massachusetts, USA Posts: 9,439	DVD drive, here we come __________________

August 6th, 2002, 20:20	#18
(F)ragnarok(F) Trying to stay alive Join Date: Jul 2002 Location: ... Posts: 2,939	ill always recommend Onegai Teacher. but not to those of u who just likes action animes. n where do u dl episodes of slam dunk? i've dled episode 1-101, but that was it.... __________________ Motherboard: Intel915GLVG -- CPU: Pentium 4 3.06GHz -- Monitor: ViewSonic VE910b LCD -- Video: Onboard -- Sound: Creative SB Audigy 2 -- Memory: 512 MB -- Disk Drives: Western Digital 250GB S-ATA -- OS: Windows XP -- DVD Rom University life sux....

August 6th, 2002, 23:32	#19
SuperDethMunky Banned Join Date: Jul 2002 Location: JOOBA! Posts: 155	Yes, most anime does suck horribly. Cowboy Bebop is just another drop in the bucket -- an awful, pretentious show that's just another serial anime series. Woopee. I'm not even going to touch Gundam, Blue Seed or Dragonball -- these series are frigging terrible. But there I've gone pissing off 13-year-olds again... However, what do you expect? Any cultural medium is going to have 99% crap -- especially on TV. I think that makes the really good stuff that much better.

August 6th, 2002, 23:41	#20
Gamer1 Anti-Brand Loyalist Join Date: Mar 2002 Location: Its too dark to tell... Posts: 3,241	ranma is pretty good, i love shows that could make me laugh along w/ love hina, nadesico, and etc. __________________ Iris: (Proc:Intel Pentium4 2.8Ghz w/ HT UNLOCKED @ 15x200) (Mobo: Asus P4C800-E) (RAM: Corsair XMS 2x512MB DDR400) (HDD 1: Seagate 80GB, 8MB Buffer, 7200 RPM) (Disk Drive 1: Lite-On 16x DVD Burner 1673S) (GFX Card: Radeon 9800 All-In-Wonder Pro 128MB) (Sound Card: Sound Blaster Audigy) Morrigan: (Proc:AMD Athlon 2500+ @ 11x200) (Mobo: Asrock K7V88) (RAM: Corsair XMS 512MB DDR400) (HDD 1: Seagate 80GB, 8MB Buffer, 7200 RPM) (Disk Drive 1: NEC 16x DVD Burner 3200AG) (GFX Card: Radeon 920064MB) (Sound Card: Sound Blaster Live! 5.1)