Really really NEED HELP with my Radeon 8500

eYeRuLe · July 29th, 2002, 02:17

i've got a radeon 8500 and i have some problems with it
i got it installed in win98 but it's not running any games and has frequent lock ups just surfing. previously i borrowed my friend's radeon and tested it on my system. i had the same problems but after some tinkering around i got it working flawlessly. now since i got mine i can't remember how i got it to work!! anyone out there that knows how to fix this problem?? i really need the help

Ali · July 29th, 2002, 07:40

Well my personal experience with this card is say Zero, but in more gneneral I can give only general recommendations, like installing the drivers again, then adjusting power setting in your BIOS to give some extra power to the card.

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July 29th, 2002, 08:22

Quote:

Originally posted by eYeRuLe
i've got a radeon 8500 and i have some problems with it
i got it installed in win98 but it's not running any games and has frequent lock ups just surfing. previously i borrowed my friend's radeon and tested it on my system. i had the same problems but after some tinkering around i got it working flawlessly. now since i got mine i can't remember how i got it to work!! anyone out there that knows how to fix this problem?? i really need the help

lockups? odd. I heard though that the latest catalyst drivers cause lockups on various systems. You might want to try older drivers, or download rage3dtweaker (www.rage3d.com) and play a bit with the settings.

Iran · July 29th, 2002, 22:49

catalyst is slower but stable compared to the drivers that came with my card and if you have problem with the radeon driver uninstall it 1st by following the guide here http://www.rage3d.com/board/showthre...eadid=33606840

liquid · July 29th, 2002, 23:00

Man, all these horror stories from Radeon owners...does anyone own one that works? :confused:

JAZ · July 29th, 2002, 23:55

Well Liquid I have a Radeon64 vivo and I've had no problems with it since I've owned it, seems these 8500's have had problems with certain ppl/systems and I couldnt say why as theres plenty ppl over at rage3d that are very happy with them and have no problems.
I will buy ATI's new card as well unless the new NV30 is significantlly faster/cheaper.
Not that I'm an ATI fanboy or nothing

eYeRuLe · July 30th, 2002, 02:06

this is terrible. i uninstalled the drivers like they said in rage3d. reinstalled them and it still doesn't work. i got the card to work before so i know it should be running on my system. it's just that windows detects and recognizes it but i think all other programs don't fully recognize it. like in powerdvd xp it says no video accelerator detected. i remember it saying ati technologies or something when i had the card running properly..........

Dr. Drizzay · July 30th, 2002, 05:24

Maybe your card has a short in it.

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Zerthr · July 30th, 2002, 05:54

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Originally posted by liquid
Man, all these horror stories from Radeon owners...does anyone own one that works? :confused:

Trust me, I saw more brutal stories from Geforces than Radeons

and uh... eYeRuLe, you wanna give us some stats of your comp? so we can actually know what's half going on?

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July 30th, 2002, 08:05

Quote:

Originally posted by liquid
Man, all these horror stories from Radeon owners...does anyone own one that works? :confused:

it works, but it doesnt work well :P
My gf2mx works better.
Might not have the 1337 benchmarks but it works in actual games.

July 30th, 2002, 08:07

Quote:

Originally posted by eYeRuLe
this is terrible. i uninstalled the drivers like they said in rage3d. reinstalled them and it still doesn't work. i got the card to work before so i know it should be running on my system. it's just that windows detects and recognizes it but i think all other programs don't fully recognize it. like in powerdvd xp it says no video accelerator detected. i remember it saying ati technologies or something when i had the card running properly..........

happened to me as well (the powerdvd thing), and when I finally got it recognized it was choppy, until I tried certain beta drivers.

Jaz> Indeed, at rage3d there are people who are very happy with their card. Either that or they hate em.

Iran · July 31st, 2002, 02:06

eyerule after uninstalling the driver you must also manually remove the registry entry cause the ****ty ati uninstaller does not remove it, the first time i installed the catalyst driver it say something like unable to update registry and it fu__ my system so i have to manually remove it in safe mode

ebola · July 31st, 2002, 03:24

Quote:

Originally posted by liquid
Man, all these horror stories from Radeon owners...does anyone own one that works? :confused:

I hate ATI.

I got pissed and yanked my radeon 7500 and put in my old riva 4 meg card until my geforce 4 mx comes.

The radeon drivers that came with the card were crap and they refused to install several times on windows 2k.

eYeRuLe, your card is most likely fine. ATI just doesnt know crap about making drivers.

i had choppy playback in powerdvd as well.

GuardianAli · July 31st, 2002, 15:24

No matter what u have you dont EVER install the drivers that come with the cd...come on people!!!! how old are u???

You always use the latest drivers from the website.
The drivers on CDs are usualy super old from the shelf life of the card sitting there till someone baught it.

Also, download some tweaking software and disable hyperz.
Also make sure u have directx 8 installed.

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July 31st, 2002, 16:04

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Originally posted by GuardianAli
[B]No matter what u have you dont EVER install the drivers that come with the cd...come on people!!!! how old are u???

old enough to have tried at least a few different drivers, sir

GuardianAli · July 31st, 2002, 16:07

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Originally posted by Samor

old enough to have tried at least a few different drivers, sir

was refering to Ebolas post of "The radeon drivers that came with the card were crap and they refused to install several times on windows 2k."

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ebola · July 31st, 2002, 23:06

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Originally posted by GuardianAli

was refering to Ebolas post of "The radeon drivers that came with the card were crap and they refused to install several times on windows 2k."

I have a nice 56K connection or should I say 48k. I don't download a whole lot of stuff. and in the case of ati they dont realease driver updates all that often.

For psx emulation the boxed drivers work fine. I dont play computer games so I dont need bleeding edge released drivers.

Most of my problem is that my via chipset doesnt like the radeon and the radeon doesnt like the via chipset. I had several freezes and lock ups with the radeon.

Nvidia chipsets seems to work better with my board. thats all.

Djenn · August 1st, 2002, 22:50

Alright... Double check the drivers you installed, there are 2 sets: Made by ATI, and powered by ATI. If your card isn't made by ATI, then download the powered by ATI drivers. Try messing around with driver properties, too. Also, make SURE you have DirectX 8. You never know, could be your mobo or PSU.

Post your specs, along with DirectX version... Be sure to include motherboard info.

When I first got my Radeon, I had problems with it... After some poking around, found it to be a faulty windows install.

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Zerthr · August 2nd, 2002, 05:38

for the kids who has problems with powerdvd XP and radeons, dl the patch:

http://www.gocyberlink.com/english/d...e.jsp?dl_id=82

edit: for those who wants it on some type of resumable program... here's a direct link:
http://www.cyberlink-usa.com/ftpdloa...Patch.1811.exe

(i have 56k)

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July 29th, 2002, 02:17	#1
eYeRuLe Registered User Join Date: Jan 2002 Posts: 60	Really really NEED HELP with my Radeon 8500 i've got a radeon 8500 and i have some problems with it i got it installed in win98 but it's not running any games and has frequent lock ups just surfing. previously i borrowed my friend's radeon and tested it on my system. i had the same problems but after some tinkering around i got it working flawlessly. now since i got mine i can't remember how i got it to work!! anyone out there that knows how to fix this problem?? i really need the help

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July 29th, 2002, 07:40	#2
Ali CoLD InSiDE Join Date: Apr 2001 Location: Somewhere Posts: 2,615	Well my personal experience with this card is say Zero, but in more gneneral I can give only general recommendations, like installing the drivers again, then adjusting power setting in your BIOS to give some extra power to the card. Ali __________________ AMD Athlon XP 2100 @ 1.75 Ghz Gigabyte GA-7VA.XP VIA K400 1.25GB PC3200 System Ram ChainTech GeForCe4 TI 4200 128MB Creative SB Live! 5.1 2x WD Caviar 120GBs and -Rom1 Maxtor 40GB LiteON 16x DVD-Rw WindowsXP Professional-SP2 & Mandrake Linux

July 29th, 2002, 22:49	#4
Iran Iran Pogi Join Date: Apr 2001 Location: Stanmore Posts: 632	catalyst is slower but stable compared to the drivers that came with my card and if you have problem with the radeon driver uninstall it 1st by following the guide here http://www.rage3d.com/board/showthre...eadid=33606840

July 29th, 2002, 23:00	#5
liquid Ebichu! Join Date: Apr 2001 Location: Tampa Bay, Florida Posts: 2,091	Man, all these horror stories from Radeon owners...does anyone own one that works? :confused:

July 29th, 2002, 23:55	#6
JAZ Nintendo Zealot Join Date: Apr 2001 Location: UK Posts: 1,425	Well Liquid I have a Radeon64 vivo and I've had no problems with it since I've owned it, seems these 8500's have had problems with certain ppl/systems and I couldnt say why as theres plenty ppl over at rage3d that are very happy with them and have no problems. I will buy ATI's new card as well unless the new NV30 is significantlly faster/cheaper. Not that I'm an ATI fanboy or nothing

July 30th, 2002, 02:06	#7
eYeRuLe Registered User Join Date: Jan 2002 Posts: 60	this is terrible. i uninstalled the drivers like they said in rage3d. reinstalled them and it still doesn't work. i got the card to work before so i know it should be running on my system. it's just that windows detects and recognizes it but i think all other programs don't fully recognize it. like in powerdvd xp it says no video accelerator detected. i remember it saying ati technologies or something when i had the card running properly..........

July 30th, 2002, 05:24	#8
Dr. Drizzay Bonafide Emu Pro Join Date: Jul 2002 Posts: 276	Maybe your card has a short in it. __________________ "I love the smell of Napalm in the morning" -Apocalypse Now "Leave the gun, bring the canoli" The Godfather System Specs: Athlon 1.1 ghz, 128 DDR RAM, Geforce 2 IGP, Nforce 220d chipset,

July 31st, 2002, 02:06	#12
Iran Iran Pogi Join Date: Apr 2001 Location: Stanmore Posts: 632	eyerule after uninstalling the driver you must also manually remove the registry entry cause the ****ty ati uninstaller does not remove it, the first time i installed the catalyst driver it say something like unable to update registry and it fu__ my system so i have to manually remove it in safe mode

July 31st, 2002, 15:24	#14
GuardianAli Registered User Join Date: Jul 2002 Location: Tampa Posts: 120	No matter what u have you dont EVER install the drivers that come with the cd...come on people!!!! how old are u??? You always use the latest drivers from the website. The drivers on CDs are usualy super old from the shelf life of the card sitting there till someone baught it. Also, download some tweaking software and disable hyperz. Also make sure u have directx 8 installed. < / end real answer> -------------------------------- < humor> sacrificing the ocasional lamb helps too i find. __________________

August 1st, 2002, 22:50	#18
Djenn Space Cowboy Join Date: Mar 2002 Posts: 233	Alright... Double check the drivers you installed, there are 2 sets: Made by ATI, and powered by ATI. If your card isn't made by ATI, then download the powered by ATI drivers. Try messing around with driver properties, too. Also, make SURE you have DirectX 8. You never know, could be your mobo or PSU. Post your specs, along with DirectX version... Be sure to include motherboard info. When I first got my Radeon, I had problems with it... After some poking around, found it to be a faulty windows install. __________________ Thermaltake Xaser II Case Asus P5WD2 (272mhz FSB) Intel Pentium D 920 (@ 3.8ghz) 1gb pqi pc5400 (680mhz @ CL 5, 5-5-15) Unlocked Sapphire Radeon X800 GTO2 @ 500/600mhz SB Audigy 36gb WD Raptor, 40gb WD Caviar

August 2nd, 2002, 05:38	#19
Zerthr A Wandering Cow Join Date: Aug 2001 Location: {::::> Posts: 415	for the kids who has problems with powerdvd XP and radeons, dl the patch: http://www.gocyberlink.com/english/d...e.jsp?dl_id=82 edit: for those who wants it on some type of resumable program... here's a direct link: http://www.cyberlink-usa.com/ftpdloa...Patch.1811.exe (i have 56k) Last edited by Zerthr; August 2nd, 2002 at 05:44..