FF8 Hang

Fuzzy · July 14th, 2002, 19:08

Yo,

I've been feeling nostalgic lately, so I was gonna play all my old FF games over again... but my PSX is broken... and I dont really feel like shelling out 100+ dollars to get a machine I dont use that often... so I've been venturing into the world of PSX emulation...

I'm playing FF8 right now... and just got it started and running... I'm at the dollet exam part... waaay in the beginning... and right after the first robo-spider battle (where you have to run) it leaves the battle, gives me the experiance screen, and then hangs on a black screen... with the music looping off infinatly...

I've tried playing with an ISO but that didnt help... and was curious as to what else might be going on...

I've also tried various sound plugins... as well as both Petes OGL and D3D plugins...

Any clues?

Squ · July 14th, 2002, 19:44

Umm... Scratch on CD?

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AtomicFeline · July 14th, 2002, 22:45

Sounds to me like it's a sound problem. Which SPU plugin are you using? What are your computer specs? Are you using ePSXe or something else? What program did you make the ISO with? With a little more information, we can work with you.

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Fuzzy · July 14th, 2002, 23:45

I'm using the latest ePSXe...

My system:

Intel Celeron 800
320 MB ram
GeForce2 MX 200 (32 MB)
50x CD-Rom (just updated ASPI to 4.60)

and I've got a generic SB compatible sound card

I've tried Eternal's 1.30 plugin, Petes DSound v1.15, and the standard ePSXe plugin...

I used DiskDump to make the ISO... and it ran fine... exept the whole hang thing... just like the CD...

-Fuzzy

psicomaniaco · July 15th, 2002, 01:01

Test with another emu (vgs?). If the same thing happen, its your cd.

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Squ · July 15th, 2002, 06:22

Can it still run on a normal Psx/2?

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Fuzzy · July 15th, 2002, 07:28

Ok... well I blasted through to the point where it hangs in my buddies copy of VGS... and MY cd works fine... knock down the metal dude, and run... resumes fine

so it's gotta be my set up... or ePSXe...

Dunno if it'd work in a console... cause mine's broken

-Fuzzy

Fuzzy · July 15th, 2002, 23:10

Anybody got any ideas as to what it *could* be?

are there any settings you HAVE to have enabled/disabled to run FF8?

-Fuzzy

Fuzzy · July 16th, 2002, 07:01

Ok... so I did a little bit of poking and prodding... and I'm just as lost as I ever was...

Not only does it hang, with the battle music still playing... but hitting delete, to get at the FPS doesnt work either...

that made me think it might be a GPU/VidCard error... so I tried a few other GPUs including pete's software driver... no luck

I'm about to try some different CD-ROM plug-ins... hopefully that'll work

-Fuzzy

Gamer-X · July 16th, 2002, 09:48

Maybe you wanna try this:

When that scene happened, press "Escape" then click on File-Change CD-ROM and click OK.

It maybe that the CD-ROM stopped responding

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Fuzzy · July 16th, 2002, 10:34

No luck... both with trying different CD plugins, AND with doing the change CD thing...

-Fuzzy

**fivefeet8** · July 16th, 2002, 11:13

Are you using savestates?

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Fuzzy · July 16th, 2002, 11:26

no, why?

BZZZZZ250 · July 17th, 2002, 16:38

The same thing has happend to me. Why don't you try looking for a saved game right after the spider chase thing?

Fuzzy · July 17th, 2002, 20:13

That might work... but I dont want this issue to come up again at a later point in the game... imaging being almost to the final boss... and it getting stuck again... UGH!!!

Just wondering, but could someone post a set up that has FF8 working? like... in it's entirety... down to what check boxes are checked and which ones arent... (also, what plugins, and everything...)

-Fuzzy

Fuzzy · July 18th, 2002, 10:52

Ok... I did some more testing... and it turns out something has CHANGED...

Now any battle I get into locks up the CD...

The only way to regain CD access from within ePSXe is to reset...

This lead me to believe there was something wrong with the CD plugin... but then I remembered running it from an ISO... just to be sure tho, I tried a few others... guess what... no luck...

does ePSXe have issues with generic CD drives? or GeForce2s? do you need more than a gig free on your HD?

GAAAAHHHHHHH!!!!

-Fuzzy

**fivefeet8** · July 18th, 2002, 10:56

Something might be wrong with your computer.. Only a gig free? Try and free some more HD space..

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BZZZZZ250 · July 18th, 2002, 19:23

I don't think it's his computer because mine does the same thing. I think it's one of the plugins, but I haven't found a solution yet.
Here's my gpu specs:

Plugin: Pete's OpenGL Driver 1.1.63
Author: Pete Bernert
Card vendor: NVIDIA Corporation
GFX card: RIVA TNT2/AGP/SSE

Resolution/Color:
- 800x600 Fullscreen - Desktop changing [16 Bit]
- Keep psx aspect ratio: off

Textures:
- Default
- Filtering: 0
- Garbage collection: on
- VRam size: 0 MBytes

Framerate:
- FPS limitation: on
- Frame skipping: off
- FPS limit: Auto

Compatibility:
- Offscreen drawing: 2
- Framebuffer texture: 1
- Framebuffer access: 0
- Alpha multipass: on
- Mask bit: off
- Advanced blending: off

Misc:
- Scanlines: off
- Line mode: off
- Unfiltered FB: off
- Dithering: off
- Screen smoothing: off
- Game fixes: off [00000000]

Recca · July 18th, 2002, 19:57

try updating to pete's latest GPU plugin 1.64 and try using either the newest ePSXe or an older version to maybe get past this problem

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psicomaniaco · July 19th, 2002, 03:57

Or try using VGS. I finished it 8 times with VGS.

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July 14th, 2002, 19:08	#1
Fuzzy Registered User Join Date: Jul 2002 Location: Seattle... ish Posts: 21	FF8 Hang Yo, I've been feeling nostalgic lately, so I was gonna play all my old FF games over again... but my PSX is broken... and I dont really feel like shelling out 100+ dollars to get a machine I dont use that often... so I've been venturing into the world of PSX emulation... I'm playing FF8 right now... and just got it started and running... I'm at the dollet exam part... waaay in the beginning... and right after the first robo-spider battle (where you have to run) it leaves the battle, gives me the experiance screen, and then hangs on a black screen... with the music looping off infinatly... I've tried playing with an ISO but that didnt help... and was curious as to what else might be going on... I've also tried various sound plugins... as well as both Petes OGL and D3D plugins... Any clues?

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July 14th, 2002, 19:44	#2
Squ Registered User Join Date: Jul 2002 Location: Australia Posts: 40	Umm... Scratch on CD? __________________ Squ? P3 550, GeForce 2 MX 400 64MB, 448MB Ram, 56K Modem. Squ... because I was too lazy to type Squared.

July 14th, 2002, 22:45	#3
AtomicFeline Registered User Join Date: Aug 2001 Location: Maryland USA Posts: 569	Sounds to me like it's a sound problem. Which SPU plugin are you using? What are your computer specs? Are you using ePSXe or something else? What program did you make the ISO with? With a little more information, we can work with you. __________________ Feline Visit my deviantart page: http://atomicfeline.deviantart.com 1.4 Ghz T-Bird Athlon PNY Geforce4 TI4400 AGP 128 Meg DDR 512 Megs DDR ram Ensoniq Audio PCI 32X CD-ROM Windows XP SP 1

July 14th, 2002, 23:45	#4
Fuzzy Registered User Join Date: Jul 2002 Location: Seattle... ish Posts: 21	I'm using the latest ePSXe... My system: Intel Celeron 800 320 MB ram GeForce2 MX 200 (32 MB) 50x CD-Rom (just updated ASPI to 4.60) and I've got a generic SB compatible sound card I've tried Eternal's 1.30 plugin, Petes DSound v1.15, and the standard ePSXe plugin... I used DiskDump to make the ISO... and it ran fine... exept the whole hang thing... just like the CD... -Fuzzy

July 15th, 2002, 01:01	#5
psicomaniaco Eh?? Join Date: Apr 2001 Location: Brasil Posts: 1,715	Test with another emu (vgs?). If the same thing happen, its your cd. __________________

July 15th, 2002, 06:22	#6
Squ Registered User Join Date: Jul 2002 Location: Australia Posts: 40	Can it still run on a normal Psx/2? __________________ Squ? P3 550, GeForce 2 MX 400 64MB, 448MB Ram, 56K Modem. Squ... because I was too lazy to type Squared.

July 15th, 2002, 07:28	#7
Fuzzy Registered User Join Date: Jul 2002 Location: Seattle... ish Posts: 21	Ok... well I blasted through to the point where it hangs in my buddies copy of VGS... and MY cd works fine... knock down the metal dude, and run... resumes fine so it's gotta be my set up... or ePSXe... Dunno if it'd work in a console... cause mine's broken -Fuzzy

July 15th, 2002, 23:10	#8
Fuzzy Registered User Join Date: Jul 2002 Location: Seattle... ish Posts: 21	Anybody got any ideas as to what it could be? are there any settings you HAVE to have enabled/disabled to run FF8? -Fuzzy

July 16th, 2002, 07:01	#9
Fuzzy Registered User Join Date: Jul 2002 Location: Seattle... ish Posts: 21	Ok... so I did a little bit of poking and prodding... and I'm just as lost as I ever was... Not only does it hang, with the battle music still playing... but hitting delete, to get at the FPS doesnt work either... that made me think it might be a GPU/VidCard error... so I tried a few other GPUs including pete's software driver... no luck I'm about to try some different CD-ROM plug-ins... hopefully that'll work -Fuzzy

July 16th, 2002, 09:48	#10
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July 16th, 2002, 10:34	#11
Fuzzy Registered User Join Date: Jul 2002 Location: Seattle... ish Posts: 21	No luck... both with trying different CD plugins, AND with doing the change CD thing... -Fuzzy

July 16th, 2002, 11:13	#12
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July 16th, 2002, 11:26	#13
Fuzzy Registered User Join Date: Jul 2002 Location: Seattle... ish Posts: 21	no, why?

July 17th, 2002, 16:38	#14
BZZZZZ250 Registered User Join Date: Jul 2002 Location: North Carolina Posts: 24	The same thing has happend to me. Why don't you try looking for a saved game right after the spider chase thing?

July 17th, 2002, 20:13	#15
Fuzzy Registered User Join Date: Jul 2002 Location: Seattle... ish Posts: 21	That might work... but I dont want this issue to come up again at a later point in the game... imaging being almost to the final boss... and it getting stuck again... UGH!!! Just wondering, but could someone post a set up that has FF8 working? like... in it's entirety... down to what check boxes are checked and which ones arent... (also, what plugins, and everything...) -Fuzzy

July 18th, 2002, 10:52	#16
Fuzzy Registered User Join Date: Jul 2002 Location: Seattle... ish Posts: 21	Ok... I did some more testing... and it turns out something has CHANGED... Now any battle I get into locks up the CD... The only way to regain CD access from within ePSXe is to reset... This lead me to believe there was something wrong with the CD plugin... but then I remembered running it from an ISO... just to be sure tho, I tried a few others... guess what... no luck... does ePSXe have issues with generic CD drives? or GeForce2s? do you need more than a gig free on your HD? GAAAAHHHHHHH!!!! -Fuzzy

July 18th, 2002, 10:56	#17
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July 18th, 2002, 19:23	#18
BZZZZZ250 Registered User Join Date: Jul 2002 Location: North Carolina Posts: 24	I don't think it's his computer because mine does the same thing. I think it's one of the plugins, but I haven't found a solution yet. Here's my gpu specs: Plugin: Pete's OpenGL Driver 1.1.63 Author: Pete Bernert Card vendor: NVIDIA Corporation GFX card: RIVA TNT2/AGP/SSE Resolution/Color: - 800x600 Fullscreen - Desktop changing [16 Bit] - Keep psx aspect ratio: off Textures: - Default - Filtering: 0 - Garbage collection: on - VRam size: 0 MBytes Framerate: - FPS limitation: on - Frame skipping: off - FPS limit: Auto Compatibility: - Offscreen drawing: 2 - Framebuffer texture: 1 - Framebuffer access: 0 - Alpha multipass: on - Mask bit: off - Advanced blending: off Misc: - Scanlines: off - Line mode: off - Unfiltered FB: off - Dithering: off - Screen smoothing: off - Game fixes: off [00000000]

July 18th, 2002, 19:57	#19
Recca Registered User Join Date: Feb 2002 Location: Where ever fate shall lead me. Posts: 3,941	try updating to pete's latest GPU plugin 1.64 and try using either the newest ePSXe or an older version to maybe get past this problem __________________ この世に悪があるとすれば、それは人の心だ。エドワ-ド・D・モリスン

July 19th, 2002, 03:57	#20
psicomaniaco Eh?? Join Date: Apr 2001 Location: Brasil Posts: 1,715	Or try using VGS. I finished it 8 times with VGS. __________________