Xenogears slow battle sequences. Anybody can help, please?

SandslashXBro · July 10th, 2002, 11:57

I played Xenogears perfectly using CVGS, but that was when I still used Win98. Now I moved to WinXP, and can't use CVGS anymore, and I've found the better ePSXe. But in battles, my xenogears play slowly, and I'm already using the latest gpu plugin.
Can anybody help? Thanks!

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Quatro · July 10th, 2002, 12:09

on what part, as in every battle or boss battle???

Try different video plugins like pete's D3D... try to explore using different plugins too, not just pete's plugins. You can download other plugins here at ngemu.

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OmniDistortion · July 10th, 2002, 12:11

also give us the settings you are using for it, yo might be using some strong settings for such a battle sequence

liquid · July 10th, 2002, 23:03

make sure that you turn off PC FPS calculation.

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SandslashXBro · July 11th, 2002, 05:53

Every battle. I'm using pete's OpenGL, I click on the fast button then:
increase the resolution (1024 x 768),
change color depth to 32,
texture quality --> don't care,
off-screen drawing --> enhanced,
framebuffer textures --> emulated vram or something.

Sound --> eternalSPU.
Does that help? Thanks!

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Quatro · July 11th, 2002, 06:16

well like I said earlier, try using different plugins like pete's D3D. Try experimenting other plugins available. If you only have pete's plugin and none of then seems to help, download other plugins here on NGemu.

Also you can lower your resolution to 800x600 to pick up some speed. Check also if your frame limit is set to what too.

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Ultragunner · July 11th, 2002, 19:26

Plugin: Pete's D3D Driver 1.1.64
Author: Pete Bernert
GFX card: Voodoo5 5500 PCI

Resolution/Color:
- 640x480 Fullscreen - [16 Bit]

Textures:
- R5G5B5A1
- Filtering: 0
- Hi-Res textures: on
- Palettized tex windows: on
- Garbage collection: on
- VRam size: 64 MBytes

Framerate:
- FPS limit: on
- Frame skipping: off
- FPS limit: 60

Compatibility:
- Offscreen drawing: 2
- Framebuffer texture: 2
- Framebuffer access: 3
- Alpha multipass: on
- Mask bit: off
- Advanced blending: hardware

Misc:
- Scanlines: off [128]
- Unfiltered FB: off
- Dithering: on
- Screen smoothing: off
- Full vram: off
- Game fixes: off [00000000]

i don't see any reason why it should slow down on your machine, you have a powerful one.

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SandslashXBro · July 12th, 2002, 03:11

Quote:

Originally posted by Quatro
well like I said earlier, try using different plugins like pete's D3D. Try experimenting other plugins available. If you only have pete's plugin and none of then seems to help, download other plugins here on NGemu.

Also you can lower your resolution to 800x600 to pick up some speed. Check also if your frame limit is set to what too.

but isn't OpenGl the best for GeForce VGAs?

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Quatro · July 12th, 2002, 05:18

yes it is... but when it comes to the game, you should also try to fiddle around your video config to see what plugin is best for that game. It doesn't necessary means that openGL is best for all games, sometimes you experience some problem, like you have right now, and try other alternatives for this.

Also like ultragunner, I played xenogear at 640x480 resolution at 16 bit. Also try that one to increase your speed.

Heck, your PC config is much better than mine so I really don't get why it run that slow for you... mine run at an average of 50 to 60 fps.

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KillerShots · July 12th, 2002, 19:26

Try running it as an ISO, it sped it up for me

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SandslashXBro · July 13th, 2002, 08:19

Oookay. I'm already playing from an ISO, and turns out switching to 16bit colors help fix the slow battle seq. for me. But in the beginning, when Fei returns to Lahan while it's burning, it's all black, I can see nothing. What can be wrong? thanks!

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Quatro · July 13th, 2002, 08:48

enable the vram option, but it will make the game slow. I suggest running it at window screen, you could also enable frame skipping when your vram option to make it fast if it become slow.

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SandslashXBro · July 13th, 2002, 13:32

my vram option is autodetect. what should I set it to? and can anyone tell me what vram is? thanks!

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SandslashXBro · July 13th, 2002, 14:56

I tried 32, but it didn't work. I should probably say that I can still see dialogues.

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KillerShots · July 13th, 2002, 18:57

Quote:

Originally posted by Quatro
enable the vram option, but it will make the game slow. I suggest running it at window screen, you could also enable frame skipping when your vram option to make it fast if it become slow.

Don't do that, it's inconvenient. What you need to do is activate the Xenogears special game fix (Not the F7 trick, Pete also has one). This will automatically enable and disable the full VRAM primitives option.

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Ultragunner · July 13th, 2002, 19:11

Quote:

Originally posted by SandslashXBro
Oookay. I'm already playing from an ISO, and turns out switching to 16bit colors help fix the slow battle seq. for me. But in the beginning, when Fei returns to Lahan while it's burning, it's all black, I can see nothing. What can be wrong? thanks!

these settings will let you see what is happening in there. be warned though that this will be slow. 20+ FPS.

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Quatro · July 13th, 2002, 19:16

hmmm... what game fix is that killershot??? can you state that game fix??? is it the ignore balck brightnes option???

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KillerShots · July 13th, 2002, 20:26

Quote:

Originally posted by Quatro
hmmm... what game fix is that killershot??? can you state that game fix??? is it the ignore balck brightnes option???

Never mind, I'm outdated :o. That game-fix appears to no longer exist, I don't know what it's replaced by...ignore me

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**Betamax** · July 14th, 2002, 00:26

Quote:

Originally posted by Ultragunner

these settings will let you see what is happening in there. be warned though that this will be slow. 20+ FPS.

I've got the same setup, except my framebuffer access is set it 4 (Full software). In my case this allows section to run at normal speed.

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alanm26 · July 14th, 2002, 04:03

Make sure framebuffer access is set to 3 or 4. 4 would give me a little faster speed during the "warped" sequences (35 fps) compared to access set to 3 (30 fps), but leaving it option on 4 would slow the game down to 50 fps all other times. I just left it on 3 all the time. You can change it during the game with Pete's ingame options too.

July 10th, 2002, 11:57	#1
SandslashXBro The Shadow Join Date: Nov 2001 Location: Melbourne Posts: 154	Xenogears slow battle sequences. Anybody can help, please? I played Xenogears perfectly using CVGS, but that was when I still used Win98. Now I moved to WinXP, and can't use CVGS anymore, and I've found the better ePSXe. But in battles, my xenogears play slowly, and I'm already using the latest gpu plugin. Can anybody help? Thanks! __________________ ATI Radeon 9600 256MB Athlon XP 3000+ 1024 MB DDR RAM Pete's OpenGL GPU Eternal SPU ePSXe CDR ASPI core SCPH1001 Debian

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July 10th, 2002, 12:09	#2
Quatro Just visiting ^_^ Join Date: Mar 2002 Location: Laguna Posts: 8,299	on what part, as in every battle or boss battle??? Try different video plugins like pete's D3D... try to explore using different plugins too, not just pete's plugins. You can download other plugins here at ngemu. __________________ - when you think that you have accomplish so much, many think of it as so little...

July 10th, 2002, 12:11	#3
OmniDistortion Deep Dish Pie! Join Date: May 2002 Location: You know...you guys need to put a limit here just in case someone keeps going on and on about where they live or something stupid like how this space has no limit. Posts: 608	also give us the settings you are using for it, yo might be using some strong settings for such a battle sequence

July 10th, 2002, 23:03	#4
liquid Ebichu! Join Date: Apr 2001 Location: Tampa Bay, Florida Posts: 2,091	make sure that you turn off PC FPS calculation. __________________ ...no sig for now

July 11th, 2002, 05:53	#5
SandslashXBro The Shadow Join Date: Nov 2001 Location: Melbourne Posts: 154	Every battle. I'm using pete's OpenGL, I click on the fast button then: increase the resolution (1024 x 768), change color depth to 32, texture quality --> don't care, off-screen drawing --> enhanced, framebuffer textures --> emulated vram or something. Sound --> eternalSPU. Does that help? Thanks! __________________ ATI Radeon 9600 256MB Athlon XP 3000+ 1024 MB DDR RAM Pete's OpenGL GPU Eternal SPU ePSXe CDR ASPI core SCPH1001 Debian

July 11th, 2002, 06:16	#6
Quatro Just visiting ^_^ Join Date: Mar 2002 Location: Laguna Posts: 8,299	well like I said earlier, try using different plugins like pete's D3D. Try experimenting other plugins available. If you only have pete's plugin and none of then seems to help, download other plugins here on NGemu. Also you can lower your resolution to 800x600 to pick up some speed. Check also if your frame limit is set to what too. __________________ - when you think that you have accomplish so much, many think of it as so little...

July 11th, 2002, 19:26	#7
Ultragunner Trans-Am Mode Join Date: Sep 2001 Location: 127.0.0.1 Posts: 998	Plugin: Pete's D3D Driver 1.1.64 Author: Pete Bernert GFX card: Voodoo5 5500 PCI Resolution/Color: - 640x480 Fullscreen - [16 Bit] Textures: - R5G5B5A1 - Filtering: 0 - Hi-Res textures: on - Palettized tex windows: on - Garbage collection: on - VRam size: 64 MBytes Framerate: - FPS limit: on - Frame skipping: off - FPS limit: 60 Compatibility: - Offscreen drawing: 2 - Framebuffer texture: 2 - Framebuffer access: 3 - Alpha multipass: on - Mask bit: off - Advanced blending: hardware Misc: - Scanlines: off [128] - Unfiltered FB: off - Dithering: on - Screen smoothing: off - Full vram: off - Game fixes: off [00000000] i don't see any reason why it should slow down on your machine, you have a powerful one. __________________ PC Specs: Last edited by Ultragunner; July 11th, 2002 at 21:01..

July 12th, 2002, 05:18	#9
Quatro Just visiting ^_^ Join Date: Mar 2002 Location: Laguna Posts: 8,299	yes it is... but when it comes to the game, you should also try to fiddle around your video config to see what plugin is best for that game. It doesn't necessary means that openGL is best for all games, sometimes you experience some problem, like you have right now, and try other alternatives for this. Also like ultragunner, I played xenogear at 640x480 resolution at 16 bit. Also try that one to increase your speed. Heck, your PC config is much better than mine so I really don't get why it run that slow for you... mine run at an average of 50 to 60 fps. __________________ - when you think that you have accomplish so much, many think of it as so little...

July 12th, 2002, 19:26	#10
KillerShots War Games coder Join Date: Apr 2001 Location: Florida Posts: 1,927	Try running it as an ISO, it sped it up for me __________________ Primary CPU: Athlon 64 X2 4400+ Mobo: Biostar N4SLI-A9 RAM: 2G Crucial (DDR400) Video: eVGA GeForce 7900 GTX (512M) Audio: HDA X-Mystique HD(s): Maxtor 300G SATA2, Samsung 400G SATA2 OS(s): WinXP x64 Pro, Vista x32 Ultimate, Gentoo x64 Monitor(s): Primary - 19" Flat Panel (1280x1024) Secondary - 19" Flat Panel (1280x1024) Tertiary - Zenith 42" Plasma TV (1024x768 res) Many other machines... sig too short

July 13th, 2002, 08:19	#11
SandslashXBro The Shadow Join Date: Nov 2001 Location: Melbourne Posts: 154	Oookay. I'm already playing from an ISO, and turns out switching to 16bit colors help fix the slow battle seq. for me. But in the beginning, when Fei returns to Lahan while it's burning, it's all black, I can see nothing. What can be wrong? thanks! __________________ ATI Radeon 9600 256MB Athlon XP 3000+ 1024 MB DDR RAM Pete's OpenGL GPU Eternal SPU ePSXe CDR ASPI core SCPH1001 Debian

July 13th, 2002, 08:48	#12
Quatro Just visiting ^_^ Join Date: Mar 2002 Location: Laguna Posts: 8,299	enable the vram option, but it will make the game slow. I suggest running it at window screen, you could also enable frame skipping when your vram option to make it fast if it become slow. __________________ - when you think that you have accomplish so much, many think of it as so little...

July 13th, 2002, 13:32	#13
SandslashXBro The Shadow Join Date: Nov 2001 Location: Melbourne Posts: 154	my vram option is autodetect. what should I set it to? and can anyone tell me what vram is? thanks! __________________ ATI Radeon 9600 256MB Athlon XP 3000+ 1024 MB DDR RAM Pete's OpenGL GPU Eternal SPU ePSXe CDR ASPI core SCPH1001 Debian

July 13th, 2002, 14:56	#14
SandslashXBro The Shadow Join Date: Nov 2001 Location: Melbourne Posts: 154	I tried 32, but it didn't work. I should probably say that I can still see dialogues. __________________ ATI Radeon 9600 256MB Athlon XP 3000+ 1024 MB DDR RAM Pete's OpenGL GPU Eternal SPU ePSXe CDR ASPI core SCPH1001 Debian

July 13th, 2002, 19:16	#17
Quatro Just visiting ^_^ Join Date: Mar 2002 Location: Laguna Posts: 8,299	hmmm... what game fix is that killershot??? can you state that game fix??? is it the ignore balck brightnes option??? __________________ - when you think that you have accomplish so much, many think of it as so little...

July 14th, 2002, 04:03	#20
alanm26 Registered User Join Date: May 2002 Posts: 54	Make sure framebuffer access is set to 3 or 4. 4 would give me a little faster speed during the "warped" sequences (35 fps) compared to access set to 3 (30 fps), but leaving it option on 4 would slow the game down to 50 fps all other times. I just left it on 3 all the time. You can change it during the game with Pete's ingame options too.