What are those lines in Ff7?

Finalbuster · July 6th, 2002, 22:42

Hi there. I'm new here and this is my first thread (does anybody cares?). I was playing Final fantasy 7, with Pete's ogl 1.63 plugin and when I turned on the extended + smoothed sprites options, these green lines appeared. Why does this happen? Is there a way to prevent it? Thanks.

Ultragunner · July 6th, 2002, 22:50

try another filtering mode to make the green lines disappear. i personally use filtering #4.

remember that turning on filtering will cause graphical glitches as the manual says.

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Finalbuster · July 6th, 2002, 23:08

That's the one I'm using too, but... the pixels... oh, they are everywhere...

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**Raziel** · July 6th, 2002, 23:09

Moved.

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Finalbuster · July 6th, 2002, 23:12

Moved? What is moved?

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Ultragunner · July 6th, 2002, 23:13

moved to problems w/ games section.

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Finalbuster · July 6th, 2002, 23:21

Boy... I'm really new at this...

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MasterYoshidino · July 6th, 2002, 23:42

???? lines???? errr i dont get any with my system heres a pic ehhe...

ugh the textures of Final Fantasy 7 are UGLY

BTW USE #3 dont see any diff between the two
and use also software or software and vid card rendering
maybe THATS why LOL!

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Finalbuster · July 7th, 2002, 00:19

It's not there where I get the lines, it's in the 2-d part of the game. These lines appear on the borders of objects.

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Finalbuster · July 7th, 2002, 00:20

By the way... cool pic, but... kinda big

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**Snake785** · July 7th, 2002, 00:36

What works best for me is I turn off Filtering and I enable Screen Smoothing. But depending on your system, it may run slow.

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**Betamax** · July 7th, 2002, 01:09

MasterYoshidino: You may find the ff7 special game fix is off (hence the reason why your screenshot is showing errors).

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**Raziel** · July 7th, 2002, 03:18

Quote:

Originally posted by MasterYoshidino
ugh the textures of Final Fantasy 7 are UGLY

IIRC, there are close to no textures in FF7.

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MasterYoshidino · July 7th, 2002, 05:02

oops i forgot cuz i was just done beating ff9 and forgot to
furn on the ff7 text border fix but it dont bother me though

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Esturk · July 7th, 2002, 06:07

Quote:

Originally posted by Finalbuster
That's the one I'm using too, but... the pixels... oh, they are everywhere...

It's Playstation. There's gonna be pixels, lots of 'em.

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**fivefeet8** · July 7th, 2002, 06:48

try this setting..

Petes ogl pluggin
4xFSAA enabled(for 3d characters)
resolution of 640x480

should run ok on your geforce mx.. If not then disable FSAA.. But your 3d characters may look bad..

And like the documents that come with petes pluggins says.. Sprite smoothing causes problems with FF7.. FF9 works fine with it though..

Here is a demo of those settings on FF7.. On a voodoo 5 though with 4xFSAA..

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Finalbuster · July 7th, 2002, 18:27

I don't have that option you're talking about, 4xfsaa...

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**fivefeet8** · July 7th, 2002, 18:30

It's a hardware option.. Check in your advanced display properties.. YOur geforce2 mx should have the options to disable or enable FSAA.. There is a performance hit though.. Use the resolution of 640x480 and set filtering to standard w/out sprites or extended w/out sprites..

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Finalbuster · July 7th, 2002, 20:14

Couldn't find it, hehe... probably because everything is in Spanish and I have no clue what does Fsaa means...

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S.SubZero · July 8th, 2002, 14:27

Here is a screenshot of the lines he is talking about. Specifiically look at the things hanging off the ceiling.

They are all over the place, and seem to trace around things.

Here is another that shows the lines behind objects:

This is using ePSXe 1.52, w/Pete's OpenGL 1.63 .. Texture qual,ty max, filtering level 6, OSD=3, FB=2, FBA=3. Game fixes are FF7 text boxes and fake FSAA.

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July 6th, 2002, 22:42	#1
Finalbuster Nothing is like before. Join Date: Jul 2002 Location: Santiago, Chile Posts: 581	What are those lines in Ff7? Hi there. I'm new here and this is my first thread (does anybody cares?). I was playing Final fantasy 7, with Pete's ogl 1.63 plugin and when I turned on the extended + smoothed sprites options, these green lines appeared. Why does this happen? Is there a way to prevent it? Thanks.

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July 6th, 2002, 22:50	#2
Ultragunner Trans-Am Mode Join Date: Sep 2001 Location: 127.0.0.1 Posts: 998	try another filtering mode to make the green lines disappear. i personally use filtering #4. remember that turning on filtering will cause graphical glitches as the manual says. __________________ PC Specs:

July 6th, 2002, 23:08	#3
Finalbuster Nothing is like before. Join Date: Jul 2002 Location: Santiago, Chile Posts: 581	That's the one I'm using too, but... the pixels... oh, they are everywhere... __________________ Say yes to every opportunity that comes your way, as they may never come back.

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Ultragunner Trans-Am Mode Join Date: Sep 2001 Location: 127.0.0.1 Posts: 998	moved to problems w/ games section. __________________ PC Specs:

July 6th, 2002, 23:21	#7
Finalbuster Nothing is like before. Join Date: Jul 2002 Location: Santiago, Chile Posts: 581	Boy... I'm really new at this... __________________ Say yes to every opportunity that comes your way, as they may never come back.

July 6th, 2002, 23:42	#8
MasterYoshidino [NaTTaS]Member Join Date: Jul 2002 Location: San Diego, CA Posts: 122	???? lines???? errr i dont get any with my system heres a pic ehhe... ugh the textures of Final Fantasy 7 are UGLY BTW USE #3 dont see any diff between the two and use also software or software and vid card rendering maybe THATS why LOL! __________________ If you like psx games and/or quake iii arena visit my site lol here are my recommended ePSXe settings Also known by the handle [NaTTaS]Yoshi Yoshi's version of the BFG10K is the RAILGUN! MY SPECS P4 1.8A @ 2.41 GHZ ; 256 DDR 333MHz GeForce4 Ti4600 (300/650) Via P4PB 400 Motherboard

July 7th, 2002, 00:19	#9
Finalbuster Nothing is like before. Join Date: Jul 2002 Location: Santiago, Chile Posts: 581	It's not there where I get the lines, it's in the 2-d part of the game. These lines appear on the borders of objects. __________________ Say yes to every opportunity that comes your way, as they may never come back.

July 7th, 2002, 00:20	#10
Finalbuster Nothing is like before. Join Date: Jul 2002 Location: Santiago, Chile Posts: 581	By the way... cool pic, but... kinda big __________________ Say yes to every opportunity that comes your way, as they may never come back.

July 7th, 2002, 00:36	#11
Snake785 Prepare for Descent... Join Date: Apr 2001 Location: Canada Posts: 2,619	What works best for me is I turn off Filtering and I enable Screen Smoothing. But depending on your system, it may run slow. __________________ My Computer specs: Pentium 4 2.6Ghz 512 MB of RAM Geforce FX 5700 128 MB Windows XP SP1 Click here for Flaretech.Biz Web Hosting

July 7th, 2002, 01:09	#12
Betamax Resident Movie Critic Join Date: Apr 2001 Location: Belfast, Northern Ireland Posts: 9,506	MasterYoshidino: You may find the ff7 special game fix is off (hence the reason why your screenshot is showing errors). __________________ Superior marketing of an inferior product will always win over inferior marketing of a superior product.

July 7th, 2002, 05:02	#14
MasterYoshidino [NaTTaS]Member Join Date: Jul 2002 Location: San Diego, CA Posts: 122	oops i forgot cuz i was just done beating ff9 and forgot to furn on the ff7 text border fix but it dont bother me though __________________ If you like psx games and/or quake iii arena visit my site lol here are my recommended ePSXe settings Also known by the handle [NaTTaS]Yoshi Yoshi's version of the BFG10K is the RAILGUN! MY SPECS P4 1.8A @ 2.41 GHZ ; 256 DDR 333MHz GeForce4 Ti4600 (300/650) Via P4PB 400 Motherboard

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Finalbuster Nothing is like before. Join Date: Jul 2002 Location: Santiago, Chile Posts: 581	I don't have that option you're talking about, 4xfsaa... __________________ Say yes to every opportunity that comes your way, as they may never come back.

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fivefeet8 &-)---\|--< Join Date: Apr 2001 Location: Smallville Posts: 8,058	It's a hardware option.. Check in your advanced display properties.. YOur geforce2 mx should have the options to disable or enable FSAA.. There is a performance hit though.. Use the resolution of 640x480 and set filtering to standard w/out sprites or extended w/out sprites.. __________________ Play emulated games online Main Rig\|\|Intel i7 2600k @4.4 ghz\|2x4 gb DDR3 1600\|Asrock Extreme7 Gen3\|EVGA GTX670 2GB\|EVGA GTX460 PhysX\|2x Seagate 160gb SATA150 Raid0\|250 gb Samsung SATA2 HD\| OCZ 240GB SSD SATA3 \|NEC 3520 4x/8x DVD+R/RW DL burner\|Rosewill 1000 Watt\|40" Sony Bravia 1080p\|Logitec 5.1 Speaker System w/10" Sub\|Windows 7 64bit Ultimate\|\| SimplyBuyIt - Health&Nutrition

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Finalbuster Nothing is like before. Join Date: Jul 2002 Location: Santiago, Chile Posts: 581	Couldn't find it, hehe... probably because everything is in Spanish and I have no clue what does Fsaa means... __________________ Say yes to every opportunity that comes your way, as they may never come back.

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S.SubZero Windows 8 Pro Join Date: Jul 2002 Location: Bay Area, California Posts: 1,144	Here is a screenshot of the lines he is talking about. Specifiically look at the things hanging off the ceiling. They are all over the place, and seem to trace around things. Here is another that shows the lines behind objects: This is using ePSXe 1.52, w/Pete's OpenGL 1.63 .. Texture qual,ty max, filtering level 6, OSD=3, FB=2, FBA=3. Game fixes are FF7 text boxes and fake FSAA. __________________ -SSZ