should I be afraid now?

Taisen · April 12th, 2002, 17:07

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In additional, Yasumi Matsuno mentioned that Square has acquired the rights to Quest's entire Ogre Battle series, which Matsuno began develop on Super Famicom. Square will be producing and publish the future Ogre Battle titles.

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Square's producer Yasumi Matsuno has revealed new details on the GameBoy Advance port of Final Fantasy Tactics. The GBA version is being developed by the original staffs from Quest who prodcued the Ogre Battle series.

So if square does future ogre saga titles it might be basically quest staff developing the games.

**Betamax** · April 12th, 2002, 21:52

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Hydra · April 12th, 2002, 22:34

SO?

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Ninjaa · April 13th, 2002, 03:31

Yeah, I wasn't too happy about this news either. I suppose we should have seen it coming, but I guess this is going to mark the beginning of the end for one of the greatest franchises ever.

Quatro · April 13th, 2002, 03:36

could you guys please elaborate... I'm a little bit slow and confused???

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Ninjaa · April 13th, 2002, 10:14

Square basically bought out Quest, who makes the Ogre Battle series. I am not too happy about this news because Square doesn't really have a great track record for quality games as of late. Ogre Battle was one of the last untouched franchises. It just got better and better with every game. Now that Square owns it, I hope it doesn't go downhill like all of Square's franchises.

Oh well. Tactics Ogre for GBA comes out in a couple of weeks. That should keep me happy for a while.

<Id> · April 13th, 2002, 15:33

I didn't think FFX is too cad though. You got to give them some credit for that game.

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Quatro · April 13th, 2002, 18:28

thanks ninja for the info, well so far square is doing fine for their series release... like you said, let's hope that it doesn't go down the hill. But if they still hired the original programmers of orge, maybe they would let that happen either

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Eface · April 13th, 2002, 21:21

Well, FFX will have to be A lot better then VIII or IX cuz they just suck....

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Ninjaa · April 13th, 2002, 22:27

In my mind, Square has destroyed every franchise I cared about.

Chrono Cross - sucked.
Legend of Mana - sucked REAL bad.
Final Fantasy 8 & 9 - sucked to the point I don't want to play 10.
Parasite Eve 2 - sucked REAL bad.

Those were the Square games that I truly loved. Yet the recent games have had me disgusted with Square. I just pray they don't corrupt Quest.

Quatro · April 14th, 2002, 02:18

I respect your opinion ninja, well legend of mana also suck for me but with due respect to final fantasy... I think its not bad. Well like you, I liked the orge saga on PSX and hope they won't ruin the series if there gonna make any.

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Ninjaa · April 14th, 2002, 03:38

Actually, I didn't like it so much on PSX because my CDs were scratched, causing some very annoying problems. On the SNES and N64 the games were fantastic. The only PSX one I played was Tactics Ogre because I couldn't find a translation for the SNES version.

**Raziel** · April 14th, 2002, 03:45

The N64 version of Ogre Battle isn't that great.
Kinda boring(in fact I didn't even really liked Ogre Battle on SNES,maybe that explains why

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Let's just hope they'll release a new FFT on GameCube(that would be GGGGGGGRRRRRREEEEEAAAAATTTTTT).

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Strider · April 14th, 2002, 04:20

>In my mind, Square has destroyed every franchise I cared about.
>
>Chrono Cross - sucked.
>Legend of Mana - sucked REAL bad.
>Final Fantasy 8 & 9 - sucked to the point I don't want to play 10.
>Parasite Eve 2 - sucked REAL bad.
>
>Those were the Square games that I truly loved. Yet the recent >games have had me disgusted with Square. I just pray they don't >corrupt Quest.

i agree with you that square screwed up a lot of games as of late... i still have to disagree that cc was a total disaster, but i do agree that they made some things horrible which were really good in ct...

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Ninjaa · April 14th, 2002, 05:01

Chrono Cross is on the list because it is nowhere near as good as Chrono Trigger. It wasn't even close to being the game that Chrono Trigger was, and it didn't feel right at all.

Raziel, FFT might be out on GBA by the end of the year. We can hope for a sequel on GameCube, but I wouldn't bet on it.

REi_FoX · April 14th, 2002, 05:39

maybe te only thing in the mind of square is making games on all consoles...

we know that squares 19% was own by sony...

so they have to buy quest for creating games in other consoles...

just to catch up for the loss of money...

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Ninjaa · April 14th, 2002, 07:31

Square recently started up a new company. It's 51% owned by a high ranking Square executive (I forget who), and 49% owned by Square. It only has one employee. It is basically a front for making Nintendo games. All the actual development is done externally from Square's second production unit.

This is how Square got around their dealings with Sony. I don't think that they needed the Quest name.

Taisen · April 20th, 2002, 01:56

Variety and new ideas die when consolidation or buyouts occur as I see it, but a franchise may not evolve if held by the same hands. Square didn't buyout Quest but they did take a large chunk out of it imo.

Personally I enjoyed Legend of Mana more than Secret of Mana.

Cless · April 21st, 2002, 06:08

I agree with ninja compeltely. And square has sucked recently the only square psx games that I like are FFT and xenogears.

Darkhound · April 23rd, 2002, 14:01

Square going downhill?? I havent played a bad Square game except Final Fantasy 8...not played 10 but it looks awesome, is it some kind of cool thing to do to hate square and be one of these "hardcore RPGers"?

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Darkhound Schwarzehund Join Date: Feb 2002 Posts: 120	erm Square going downhill?? I havent played a bad Square game except Final Fantasy 8...not played 10 but it looks awesome, is it some kind of cool thing to do to hate square and be one of these "hardcore RPGers"? __________________ Windows XP Professional Athlon T/Bird @ 800MHz GeForce2 MX 64Mb DDR 512Mb RAM @ 133MHz Nostromo Speedpad N50 MS Gamevoice Creative 12x DVD Seagate 20Gb 7200rpm Website

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Ninjaa Banned Join Date: Oct 2001 Location: Soviet Canuckistan Posts: 7,778	Yeah, I wasn't too happy about this news either. I suppose we should have seen it coming, but I guess this is going to mark the beginning of the end for one of the greatest franchises ever.

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Quatro Just visiting ^_^ Join Date: Mar 2002 Location: Laguna Posts: 8,299	could you guys please elaborate... I'm a little bit slow and confused??? __________________ - when you think that you have accomplish so much, many think of it as so little...

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Ninjaa Banned Join Date: Oct 2001 Location: Soviet Canuckistan Posts: 7,778	Square basically bought out Quest, who makes the Ogre Battle series. I am not too happy about this news because Square doesn't really have a great track record for quality games as of late. Ogre Battle was one of the last untouched franchises. It just got better and better with every game. Now that Square owns it, I hope it doesn't go downhill like all of Square's franchises. Oh well. Tactics Ogre for GBA comes out in a couple of weeks. That should keep me happy for a while.

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Quatro Just visiting ^_^ Join Date: Mar 2002 Location: Laguna Posts: 8,299	thanks ninja for the info, well so far square is doing fine for their series release... like you said, let's hope that it doesn't go down the hill. But if they still hired the original programmers of orge, maybe they would let that happen either __________________ - when you think that you have accomplish so much, many think of it as so little...

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Ninjaa Banned Join Date: Oct 2001 Location: Soviet Canuckistan Posts: 7,778	In my mind, Square has destroyed every franchise I cared about. Chrono Cross - sucked. Legend of Mana - sucked REAL bad. Final Fantasy 8 & 9 - sucked to the point I don't want to play 10. Parasite Eve 2 - sucked REAL bad. Those were the Square games that I truly loved. Yet the recent games have had me disgusted with Square. I just pray they don't corrupt Quest.

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Quatro Just visiting ^_^ Join Date: Mar 2002 Location: Laguna Posts: 8,299	I respect your opinion ninja, well legend of mana also suck for me but with due respect to final fantasy... I think its not bad. Well like you, I liked the orge saga on PSX and hope they won't ruin the series if there gonna make any. __________________ - when you think that you have accomplish so much, many think of it as so little...

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Ninjaa Banned Join Date: Oct 2001 Location: Soviet Canuckistan Posts: 7,778	Actually, I didn't like it so much on PSX because my CDs were scratched, causing some very annoying problems. On the SNES and N64 the games were fantastic. The only PSX one I played was Tactics Ogre because I couldn't find a translation for the SNES version.

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Raziel Beta Administrator Join Date: Apr 2001 Location: Nantes, France Posts: 6,272	The N64 version of Ogre Battle isn't that great. Kinda boring(in fact I didn't even really liked Ogre Battle on SNES,maybe that explains why ). Let's just hope they'll release a new FFT on GameCube(that would be GGGGGGGRRRRRREEEEEAAAAATTTTTT). __________________ System Specs: OS: Windows 7 Ultimate x64 Edition CPU: Intel Core i7 2600k @ 4.5GHz Video Card: PNY GeForce GTX480 Motherboard: ASUS P8Z68 Deluxe RAM: 8GB OCZ XMS3 PC16000

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Strider Living Paradigm Join Date: Feb 2002 Location: Toronto Posts: 10,223	>In my mind, Square has destroyed every franchise I cared about. > >Chrono Cross - sucked. >Legend of Mana - sucked REAL bad. >Final Fantasy 8 & 9 - sucked to the point I don't want to play 10. >Parasite Eve 2 - sucked REAL bad. > >Those were the Square games that I truly loved. Yet the recent >games have had me disgusted with Square. I just pray they don't >corrupt Quest. i agree with you that square screwed up a lot of games as of late... i still have to disagree that cc was a total disaster, but i do agree that they made some things horrible which were really good in ct... __________________ My Deviant Art

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Ninjaa Banned Join Date: Oct 2001 Location: Soviet Canuckistan Posts: 7,778	Chrono Cross is on the list because it is nowhere near as good as Chrono Trigger. It wasn't even close to being the game that Chrono Trigger was, and it didn't feel right at all. Raziel, FFT might be out on GBA by the end of the year. We can hope for a sequel on GameCube, but I wouldn't bet on it.

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REi_FoX ¡¾¡¾¡¾¡ Fantasy ¡¾¡¾¡¾¡ Join Date: Oct 2001 Location: Manila, Philippines Posts: 3,649	maybe te only thing in the mind of square is making games on all consoles... we know that squares 19% was own by sony... so they have to buy quest for creating games in other consoles... just to catch up for the loss of money... __________________ FoR PiNoYs WhO WanTs To BuY CheAp ParTs CliCk Here also Here Processor - Intel Quad 2 Quad q6600 G0 Stepping [Stock Settings] Memory - 2GB Team Elite 800mhz Graphics Card - Palit Daytone Geforce 8800 GT 512 MB Mobo - Abit IP-35-E OS - Dual Boot Windows XP Professional SP3 and Ubuntu Linux Pad - PS1 and PS2 > USB Adapter 3DMark05 Score - 35082

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Ninjaa Banned Join Date: Oct 2001 Location: Soviet Canuckistan Posts: 7,778	Square recently started up a new company. It's 51% owned by a high ranking Square executive (I forget who), and 49% owned by Square. It only has one employee. It is basically a front for making Nintendo games. All the actual development is done externally from Square's second production unit. This is how Square got around their dealings with Sony. I don't think that they needed the Quest name.

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Taisen Banned Join Date: Feb 2002 Posts: 1,317	Variety and new ideas die when consolidation or buyouts occur as I see it, but a franchise may not evolve if held by the same hands. Square didn't buyout Quest but they did take a large chunk out of it imo. Personally I enjoyed Legend of Mana more than Secret of Mana.

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Cless Banned Join Date: Jan 2002 Posts: 1,809	I agree with ninja compeltely. And square has sucked recently the only square psx games that I like are FFT and xenogears.