final fantasy tactics

HamsterBoy · April 12th, 2002, 05:58

does anyone have any tips on beating velius at riovanes castle at the end of chapter 3? i cant seem to get close enough to kill him because of his stupid summon magic... thanks

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Cless · April 12th, 2002, 06:16

I was a knight and use speed break with a combination of the speed increasing skill and hp restore as my counter. Then when my speed was at like 30+ and his speed at 1 I kill the him as wiergfef(?) and with alll the speed I had I kill easily.

Hanamichi · April 12th, 2002, 06:50

It was 2 years ago when I beat that guy, I remember that I beat him by pure luck. Quite a number of attacks missed or something like that happened. I couldnt beat him the 2nd time through and gave up after 5 tries

edit : Now I remember. I used accumulate alot before beating his human form. With all that accumulation he was quite a cake even as after reviving as a monster

Damn , I had forgotten that way last two weeks where I stopped playing.......

Last edited by Hanamichi; April 12th, 2002 at 11:15..

raekwon thachef · April 12th, 2002, 07:00

using a knight with all the "breaks" is the only way to go
best if you sub class a ninja 2 swords ability
i remember mostly the one on one fight with weigraf where he killed me no matter what every time in 2 hits till i thought of using 2 swords + power break for -3x2 to power after another one of those his blows werent even affecting me
this was 2 yeasr ago too so it is a little foggy

i think this thread gave me the inspiration to play this again
screenshots will be posted

**Demigod** · April 12th, 2002, 07:36

I remember beating him, but it was more luck than anything else. I first beat him using epsxe using save states but it didn't save afterwards for some reason (damn savestates). I played it using VGS afterwards and beat him. I used break abilities for Wiegraf, then I used Monk abilities (that earth attack) to pummel him to death. I don't remember clearly how I did it but there was some amount of luck in there. He missed some attacks that probably gave me the edge to beat him.

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Ninjaa · April 12th, 2002, 07:47

I beat him without savestates. Pure luck, once again. It took me about 20 to 30 tries though. I hate levelbuilding.

raekwon thachef · April 12th, 2002, 08:39

2 swords + power break is the key...............

Hanamichi · April 12th, 2002, 11:13

Weapon Break and Accumulate is another

fujita · April 13th, 2002, 07:22

My hint of defeating Velius most probably has been known to many. But the secret to tackle this monster is to upgrade yourself before he turns into that Zodiac monster, that mean while he's still in human form as Wiegraff.
There are two skills that may come in handy:
1. Ninja ability - Two Sword
2. Chemist ability - Auto Potion
First, throw away all your potion and make sure you stock up lots of high potions. This is to optimize your auto potion, so that you can heal yourself a lots automatically when Wiegraf hit your with his Holy Sword skills. Equip the best swords you can get in both hand, provided that you've learn two sword.
When fighting Wiegraf, don't kill him straight away. Instead, keep running away while upgrading Ramza with Accumulate and other skills to make him stronger and faster. If you have done enough, lets say, Ramza can move for 6-7 turn consecutively, then beat Wiegraf. He will turn into Velius. Now come the best part. All your skills and stats that you've gathered while fighting Wiegraf will be carried forward to this battle. For sure Ramza would have the first turn, just whack Velius with his two sword, turn after turn. I managed to beat Velius this way without even giving him the chance to move. Try it and good luck.

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Hanamichi · April 13th, 2002, 13:10

You can use Weapon break to disable his Holy Sword skills. Thats what I did, i think.

fujita · April 13th, 2002, 23:52

You can confirm that by looking at Wiegraf's status. If he has the 'Maintenance' ability, then you can't break his weapon. I don't remember about this, unfortunately. However, even if you do break his weapon, the real problem still hasn't being solved, Velius that is. Of course, by breaking his weapon, it would be easier to upgrade Ramza.

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**Raziel** · April 14th, 2002, 03:50

Monk is the answer to all your problems,I always stayed a monk during the whole game,and with all the abilities I had,it was really easy to beat him

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Cless · April 16th, 2002, 03:08

The monk is nice but he abillity to raise your speed to 30+ is nice to have and reduce his attack and speed to 1 is the most helpfull I think but the monk has some nice skills.

Hanamichi · April 18th, 2002, 22:36

I transferred my save file from my borrowed from friend memory card to my cousin's memory card, and the data got corrupted. Curses , I was trying to beat Velius when that happened. ARGH!!

I think the Monks Hamedo or whatever ability is great...attacking before being attacked is so sweet. It costs 1200jp though

total_hatred · April 18th, 2002, 23:29

monk with extremely high brave is very useful
add concentrate to make your attack a sucess
char with shields will likely block monk's attack
I managed to kill it within 3 turns
the next form is too easy 1 attack from my monk is enough to make it in the critical status

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Cajunspirit · April 19th, 2002, 14:53

This battle was so frustating that I forgot about the game for a week's time.
The bad part was I had my Ramza as a samurai so I had him with monk skills and I formulated a plan of where to move so he won't kill me.This is a very tough battle make your choices carefully and you won't have to start the game over.

April 12th, 2002, 05:58	#1
HamsterBoy Registered User Join Date: Apr 2002 Location: hamsterdam (lol!) actually california Posts: 9	final fantasy tactics does anyone have any tips on beating velius at riovanes castle at the end of chapter 3? i cant seem to get close enough to kill him because of his stupid summon magic... thanks __________________ :love: i love agrias and meliadoul!!! HamsterBoy: Agrias will you marry me? Agrias:Life is short...Bury! Steady Sword! HamsterBoy: Aww crap...

April 19th, 2002, 14:53	#16
Cajunspirit Banned Join Date: Sep 2001 Location: 2nd Dimension Posts: 840	Whoojch This battle was so frustating that I forgot about the game for a week's time. The bad part was I had my Ramza as a samurai so I had him with monk skills and I formulated a plan of where to move so he won't kill me.This is a very tough battle make your choices carefully and you won't have to start the game over.

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April 12th, 2002, 06:16	#2
Cless Banned Join Date: Jan 2002 Posts: 1,809	I was a knight and use speed break with a combination of the speed increasing skill and hp restore as my counter. Then when my speed was at like 30+ and his speed at 1 I kill the him as wiergfef(?) and with alll the speed I had I kill easily.

April 12th, 2002, 06:50	#3
Hanamichi Crotally Tazy Join Date: Jun 2001 Location: Malaysia Posts: 4,580	It was 2 years ago when I beat that guy, I remember that I beat him by pure luck. Quite a number of attacks missed or something like that happened. I couldnt beat him the 2nd time through and gave up after 5 tries edit : Now I remember. I used accumulate alot before beating his human form. With all that accumulation he was quite a cake even as after reviving as a monster Damn , I had forgotten that way last two weeks where I stopped playing....... Last edited by Hanamichi; April 12th, 2002 at 11:15..

April 12th, 2002, 07:00	#4
raekwon thachef Banned Join Date: Mar 2002 Location: WestSide!!! Posts: 160	using a knight with all the "breaks" is the only way to go best if you sub class a ninja 2 swords ability i remember mostly the one on one fight with weigraf where he killed me no matter what every time in 2 hits till i thought of using 2 swords + power break for -3x2 to power after another one of those his blows werent even affecting me this was 2 yeasr ago too so it is a little foggy i think this thread gave me the inspiration to play this again screenshots will be posted

April 12th, 2002, 07:36	#5
Demigod これはバタスです Join Date: Jun 2001 Location: Toronto, Ontario, Canada Posts: 6,332	I remember beating him, but it was more luck than anything else. I first beat him using epsxe using save states but it didn't save afterwards for some reason (damn savestates). I played it using VGS afterwards and beat him. I used break abilities for Wiegraf, then I used Monk abilities (that earth attack) to pummel him to death. I don't remember clearly how I did it but there was some amount of luck in there. He missed some attacks that probably gave me the edge to beat him. __________________ CPU: Intel Core 2 Quad Q9450 Mobo: Intel DX48BT2 Memory: 4096 MB PC10600 DDR3 Videocard: PNY Geforce 9800 GX2 Soundcard: On-board SigmaTel High Definition Audio Hard drive: 120 GB OCZ RevoDrive PCI-E SSD & 1 TB Hitachi Optical drive: LG GGW-H20L (2x BD-R DL) PSU: Nexus 1000 Watt PSU OS: Microsoft Windows 7 Ultimate (64-bit) Proud millionaire folder of the NGEmu folding team

April 12th, 2002, 07:47	#6
Ninjaa Banned Join Date: Oct 2001 Location: Soviet Canuckistan Posts: 7,778	I beat him without savestates. Pure luck, once again. It took me about 20 to 30 tries though. I hate levelbuilding.

April 12th, 2002, 08:39	#7
raekwon thachef Banned Join Date: Mar 2002 Location: WestSide!!! Posts: 160	2 swords + power break is the key...............

April 12th, 2002, 11:13	#8
Hanamichi Crotally Tazy Join Date: Jun 2001 Location: Malaysia Posts: 4,580	Weapon Break and Accumulate is another

April 13th, 2002, 07:22	#9
fujita Tiger of Jiang Dong Join Date: Sep 2001 Location: Inter Galactic & Dimensional Center Posts: 964	My hint of defeating Velius most probably has been known to many. But the secret to tackle this monster is to upgrade yourself before he turns into that Zodiac monster, that mean while he's still in human form as Wiegraff. There are two skills that may come in handy: 1. Ninja ability - Two Sword 2. Chemist ability - Auto Potion First, throw away all your potion and make sure you stock up lots of high potions. This is to optimize your auto potion, so that you can heal yourself a lots automatically when Wiegraf hit your with his Holy Sword skills. Equip the best swords you can get in both hand, provided that you've learn two sword. When fighting Wiegraf, don't kill him straight away. Instead, keep running away while upgrading Ramza with Accumulate and other skills to make him stronger and faster. If you have done enough, lets say, Ramza can move for 6-7 turn consecutively, then beat Wiegraf. He will turn into Velius. Now come the best part. All your skills and stats that you've gathered while fighting Wiegraf will be carried forward to this battle. For sure Ramza would have the first turn, just whack Velius with his two sword, turn after turn. I managed to beat Velius this way without even giving him the chance to move. Try it and good luck. __________________ Elly taught us that sometimes sacrifices only lead to more suffering. Aribeth taught us that sometimes the public don't deserve protection. Jeane taught us how important to respect the privacy of others. SOR PROJECT : WHERE EVERYTHING IS REAL

April 13th, 2002, 13:10	#10
Hanamichi Crotally Tazy Join Date: Jun 2001 Location: Malaysia Posts: 4,580	You can use Weapon break to disable his Holy Sword skills. Thats what I did, i think.

April 13th, 2002, 23:52	#11
fujita Tiger of Jiang Dong Join Date: Sep 2001 Location: Inter Galactic & Dimensional Center Posts: 964	You can confirm that by looking at Wiegraf's status. If he has the 'Maintenance' ability, then you can't break his weapon. I don't remember about this, unfortunately. However, even if you do break his weapon, the real problem still hasn't being solved, Velius that is. Of course, by breaking his weapon, it would be easier to upgrade Ramza. __________________ Elly taught us that sometimes sacrifices only lead to more suffering. Aribeth taught us that sometimes the public don't deserve protection. Jeane taught us how important to respect the privacy of others. SOR PROJECT : WHERE EVERYTHING IS REAL

April 14th, 2002, 03:50	#12
Raziel Beta Administrator Join Date: Apr 2001 Location: Nantes, France Posts: 6,272	Monk is the answer to all your problems,I always stayed a monk during the whole game,and with all the abilities I had,it was really easy to beat him . __________________ System Specs: OS: Windows 7 Ultimate x64 Edition CPU: Intel Core i7 2600k @ 4.5GHz Video Card: PNY GeForce GTX480 Motherboard: ASUS P8Z68 Deluxe RAM: 8GB OCZ XMS3 PC16000

April 16th, 2002, 03:08	#13
Cless Banned Join Date: Jan 2002 Posts: 1,809	The monk is nice but he abillity to raise your speed to 30+ is nice to have and reduce his attack and speed to 1 is the most helpfull I think but the monk has some nice skills.

April 18th, 2002, 22:36	#14
Hanamichi Crotally Tazy Join Date: Jun 2001 Location: Malaysia Posts: 4,580	I transferred my save file from my borrowed from friend memory card to my cousin's memory card, and the data got corrupted. Curses , I was trying to beat Velius when that happened. ARGH!! I think the Monks Hamedo or whatever ability is great...attacking before being attacked is so sweet. It costs 1200jp though

April 18th, 2002, 23:29	#15
total_hatred Rabid Wolf Join Date: Oct 2001 Location: Digiworld Posts: 495	monk with extremely high brave is very useful add concentrate to make your attack a sucess char with shields will likely block monk's attack I managed to kill it within 3 turns the next form is too easy 1 attack from my monk is enough to make it in the critical status __________________ I am no psychic I am a psycho!!! A first rate fighter never lifts a finger to win a fight If It is a sin to be mighty Call me the Devil Oh huh, I wonder where I got the line