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**Demigod** · April 12th, 2002, 03:00

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Originally posted by Kr0nic_2000
if SDR is single data rate and DDR is double data rate does that mean that 32mb of DDR is equal to 64mb of SDR

No. DDR performs twice as fast as SDR, not twice as much. DDR executes instructions on both the rising and falling edge of the clock cycle, effectively doubling its data rate. SDR only executes a single instruction per clock cycle.

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**fivefeet8** · April 12th, 2002, 03:01

Demigod79.. The voodoo 5 5500 actually has 64 megs of sdr ram, but it's split between the 2 processors.. So it's 32 megs of sdram to each cpu..

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**Kane** · April 12th, 2002, 03:05

I think he meant effective ram, in theory he is correct as like you said each processor only gets 32Mb. Thus textures are replicated, etc...
Maybe had they spent more time, they could have allowed shared memory use.... but that might slow it down...

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**Demigod** · April 12th, 2002, 04:01

Yes, I was aware the Voodoo 5 5500 had 64 MB RAM with 32 MB for each chip.

The replicated use of the RAM is the trade-off of using multiple chips. The Voodoo 2 SLI also had this kind of setup. It doubled the rendering speed (both the GPU and memory) but didn't increase the RAM amount. I believe this was also the case with the ATI Rage Fury MAXX.

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Unicron · April 12th, 2002, 14:39

So about the ram thing... If ddr ram handles data on the up and down cycles does that mean that 128 mb of ddr sdram is just as effective as 256 mb of sdram??????

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**Zephon** · April 12th, 2002, 14:55

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So about the ram thing... If ddr ram handles data on the up and down cycles does that mean that 128 mb of ddr sdram is just as effective as 256 mb of sdram??????

Nope. It means that 128MB DDR would work twice as fast as 128MB SDR. For example, DDR266 actually works at 133MHz, but it has the same speed as a 266MHz SDR. The amount of memory available will always be the same.

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hnayoung · April 12th, 2002, 18:26

I say you got an alright deal. I actually own the Voodoo5 5500 PCI. It's a nice card...the FSAA is still the best I've seen yet. But I guess if you want to play some of the newer games coming out using maximum detail...the voodoo card is quite dated and won't play games like Medal of Honor, Serious Sam, etc. very well. But if you're sticking with some of the better games, at least in my opinion, like Counter-Strike, Quake III Arena, Unreal Tournament, Starcraft, and any kind PSX emulation (epsxe, adripsx)...the Voodoo5 5500 will be more than enough for you. And since you get the use of glide, glide supported games will run quite well too. You got a good deal, as long as the seller didn't charge you some ridiculously high shipping charge.

Particleman · April 12th, 2002, 21:47

fivefeet: Actually the Voodoo 5 has a shared framebuffer, but the textures need to be stored separately on each chip. So it's slightly more than 32 Megs, probably @40 megs.

Am I the only one that finds it odd that we're seeing a sort of resurgence in the prices on Voodoo 5's? It's almost as if they've become collectors items of sorts.

n0estoy · April 13th, 2002, 01:55

...so...can u mix the two memory types?

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**Kane** · April 13th, 2002, 01:59

You can't mix DDR and SDR, but you can mix DDR and SDRAM as they are the same thing

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wtsexton · April 13th, 2002, 04:40

Not sure how many games released to do even use glide. 3dfx has been dead for a little over a year. OpenGL is better anyways its a more supported standard and its crossplat form, tho other operating systems did get Glide support. Linux has glide support but it goes thru mesagl, which is basicly a -gnu opengl- so it just adds bottleneck.

**fivefeet8** · April 13th, 2002, 05:23

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Not sure how many games released to do even use glide. 3dfx has been dead for a little over a year. OpenGL is better anyways its a more supported standard and its crossplat form, tho other operating systems did get Glide support. Linux has glide support but it goes thru mesagl, which is basicly a -gnu opengl- so it just adds bottleneck.

Newer games aren't using glide anymore.. But there are a lot of older pc games that do use glide.. ie. UT.. And of course psx and N64 emulation looks great in glide..

One more thing is that glide is a hardware specific api but it's damn fast for the hardware that supports it..

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cairey · April 13th, 2002, 10:28

It's been calculated that the Voodoo5 (even though it has 64MB) would perform equally to a 48MB card in a single chip.

The Voodoo5 AGP does support some AGP features, but not as some said, like AGP texturring. AGP texturing can be faster when local memory is used up, and therefore, without it, it would have to keep clearing and creating new data (wasting time), so AGP texturing does help sometimes. Also, the Voodoo5 will only do 1 TCU to per pixel pipeline.

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Unicron · April 13th, 2002, 14:13

OH man guys I;m sorry I just now saw demigod's post about the sdram vs. ddr ram thingy...

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April 12th, 2002, 03:01	#22
fivefeet8 &-)---\|--< Join Date: Apr 2001 Location: Smallville Posts: 8,058	Demigod79.. The voodoo 5 5500 actually has 64 megs of sdr ram, but it's split between the 2 processors.. So it's 32 megs of sdram to each cpu.. __________________ Play emulated games online Main Rig\|\|Intel i7 2600k @4.4 ghz\|2x4 gb DDR3 1600\|Asrock Extreme7 Gen3\|EVGA GTX670 2GB\|EVGA GTX460 PhysX\|2x Seagate 160gb SATA150 Raid0\|250 gb Samsung SATA2 HD\| OCZ 240GB SSD SATA3 \|NEC 3520 4x/8x DVD+R/RW DL burner\|Rosewill 1000 Watt\|40" Sony Bravia 1080p\|Logitec 5.1 Speaker System w/10" Sub\|Windows 7 64bit Ultimate\|\| SimplyBuyIt - Health&Nutrition

April 12th, 2002, 03:05	#23
Kane 邪魔ゎ指せない Join Date: Jan 2002 Location: Gosport, England Posts: 26,303	I think he meant effective ram, in theory he is correct as like you said each processor only gets 32Mb. Thus textures are replicated, etc... Maybe had they spent more time, they could have allowed shared memory use.... but that might slow it down... __________________ >Site Live< Pop over to my site for help with setting up PSX emulators. Help for the Final Fantasies and other RPGs avalaible Celes: (Desktop) Phenom II X4, 4Gb DDR2, GeForce 8800 GTS 320Mb, 32Gb OCZ Vertex SSD, 500Gb RAID HDD, Windows 7 Home Premium Erika: (MCPC) Revo3610, Windows 7 Home Premium Kimiko: (Craptop) HP Mini 210

April 12th, 2002, 04:01	#24
Demigod これはバタスです Join Date: Jun 2001 Location: Toronto, Ontario, Canada Posts: 6,331	Yes, I was aware the Voodoo 5 5500 had 64 MB RAM with 32 MB for each chip. The replicated use of the RAM is the trade-off of using multiple chips. The Voodoo 2 SLI also had this kind of setup. It doubled the rendering speed (both the GPU and memory) but didn't increase the RAM amount. I believe this was also the case with the ATI Rage Fury MAXX. __________________ CPU: Intel Core 2 Quad Q9450 Mobo: Intel DX48BT2 Memory: 4096 MB PC10600 DDR3 Videocard: PNY Geforce 9800 GX2 Soundcard: On-board SigmaTel High Definition Audio Hard drive: 120 GB OCZ RevoDrive PCI-E SSD & 1 TB Hitachi Optical drive: LG GGW-H20L (2x BD-R DL) PSU: Nexus 1000 Watt PSU OS: Microsoft Windows 7 Ultimate (64-bit) Proud millionaire folder of the NGEmu folding team

April 12th, 2002, 14:39	#25
Unicron Git er done Join Date: Mar 2002 Location: Raleigh, NC USA GO us! Posts: 2,829	So about the ram thing... If ddr ram handles data on the up and down cycles does that mean that 128 mb of ddr sdram is just as effective as 256 mb of sdram?????? __________________ It is the soldier, not the court, that has given us freedom of speech. It is the soldier, not the agitator, who has given us the freedom to protest. It is the soldier who salutes the flag, serves beneath the flag, whose coffin is draped by the flag, who gives that protestor the freedom he abuses to burn that flag. -Senator Zell Miller

April 12th, 2002, 18:26	#27
hnayoung Surfer Dude Join Date: Apr 2002 Location: The Beach Posts: 195	I say you got an alright deal. I actually own the Voodoo5 5500 PCI. It's a nice card...the FSAA is still the best I've seen yet. But I guess if you want to play some of the newer games coming out using maximum detail...the voodoo card is quite dated and won't play games like Medal of Honor, Serious Sam, etc. very well. But if you're sticking with some of the better games, at least in my opinion, like Counter-Strike, Quake III Arena, Unreal Tournament, Starcraft, and any kind PSX emulation (epsxe, adripsx)...the Voodoo5 5500 will be more than enough for you. And since you get the use of glide, glide supported games will run quite well too. You got a good deal, as long as the seller didn't charge you some ridiculously high shipping charge.

April 12th, 2002, 21:47	#28
Particleman Registered User Join Date: Apr 2001 Posts: 462	fivefeet: Actually the Voodoo 5 has a shared framebuffer, but the textures need to be stored separately on each chip. So it's slightly more than 32 Megs, probably @40 megs. Am I the only one that finds it odd that we're seeing a sort of resurgence in the prices on Voodoo 5's? It's almost as if they've become collectors items of sorts.

April 13th, 2002, 01:55	#29
n0estoy old-timer Join Date: Apr 2001 Location: texas Posts: 1,319	...so...can u mix the two memory types? __________________ .::system specs::.foxconn rs233.:.zotac g43-itx.:.intel e5200.:.vertex2 90gb ssd.:.ati hd5570.:.2gb ddr2 ram.:.liteon bdrom.:.win7.:.xbmc:. .::playing::. SF4.:.FF Tactics:. .::listening::.mia.:.gorrilaz.:.lady sov.:.sigur ros.:.bebel gilberto:. .::watching::.naruto.:.outsourced.:.family guy.:.american dad.:.30 rock:.

April 13th, 2002, 01:59	#30
Kane 邪魔ゎ指せない Join Date: Jan 2002 Location: Gosport, England Posts: 26,303	You can't mix DDR and SDR, but you can mix DDR and SDRAM as they are the same thing __________________ >Site Live< Pop over to my site for help with setting up PSX emulators. Help for the Final Fantasies and other RPGs avalaible Celes: (Desktop) Phenom II X4, 4Gb DDR2, GeForce 8800 GTS 320Mb, 32Gb OCZ Vertex SSD, 500Gb RAID HDD, Windows 7 Home Premium Erika: (MCPC) Revo3610, Windows 7 Home Premium Kimiko: (Craptop) HP Mini 210

April 13th, 2002, 04:40	#31
wtsexton Registered User Join Date: Apr 2002 Posts: 3	Not sure how many games released to do even use glide. 3dfx has been dead for a little over a year. OpenGL is better anyways its a more supported standard and its crossplat form, tho other operating systems did get Glide support. Linux has glide support but it goes thru mesagl, which is basicly a -gnu opengl- so it just adds bottleneck.

April 13th, 2002, 10:28	#33
cairey Registered User Join Date: May 2001 Location: England Posts: 216	It's been calculated that the Voodoo5 (even though it has 64MB) would perform equally to a 48MB card in a single chip. The Voodoo5 AGP does support some AGP features, but not as some said, like AGP texturring. AGP texturing can be faster when local memory is used up, and therefore, without it, it would have to keep clearing and creating new data (wasting time), so AGP texturing does help sometimes. Also, the Voodoo5 will only do 1 TCU to per pixel pipeline. __________________ http://go.to/cairey - My Home Page

April 13th, 2002, 14:13	#34
Unicron Git er done Join Date: Mar 2002 Location: Raleigh, NC USA GO us! Posts: 2,829	OH man guys I;m sorry I just now saw demigod's post about the sdram vs. ddr ram thingy... __________________ It is the soldier, not the court, that has given us freedom of speech. It is the soldier, not the agitator, who has given us the freedom to protest. It is the soldier who salutes the flag, serves beneath the flag, whose coffin is draped by the flag, who gives that protestor the freedom he abuses to burn that flag. -Senator Zell Miller