Why do they make some electric devices with no on/off switch?

Paratech · April 29th, 2012, 18:03

I have a sandwich maker that I like, I enjoy hot sandwiches for lunch most of the week. The thing I hate is that it has no on/off switch. The moment I plug it in, it turns on.

My PS2/Wii and former electric grill are the same. One of the things I love about my "current" electric grill is it does have an on/off switch.

Are electronics becoming so freaking cheap that on/off switches are too much to include?

I can't imagine its good for them when they're plugged and unplugged, and I bet it shortens their lifespan, plus wastes electricity and wouldn't be good for the environment.

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**Hard core Rikki** · April 29th, 2012, 18:19

There arent really any reasons. Some devices like grills run have delayed operational use (here grills take time to warm, and are only brought out when theyre to be used), so it kinda makes some sense, though switches would still be ideal.

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Radix865 · April 29th, 2012, 19:36

Quote:

Originally Posted by Paratech

I have a sandwich maker that I like, I enjoy hot sandwiches for lunch most of the week. The thing I hate is that it has no on/off switch. The moment I plug it in, it turns on.

My PS2/Wii and former electric grill are the same. One of the things I love about my "current" electric grill is it does have an on/off switch.

Are electronics becoming so freaking cheap that on/off switches are too much to include?

I can't imagine its good for them when they're plugged and unplugged, and I bet it shortens their lifespan, plus wastes electricity and wouldn't be good for the environment.

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It allows them to design the shape more freely without such ugly annoyances like switches... I mean, what good are those for when compared to their stylistic design sense?

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But seriously speaking, I agree... I hate it when things don't have something as simple as a freaking power switch.

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**SCHUMI_4EVER** · April 29th, 2012, 19:51

Yeah I also also really don't like the lack of on/off button, thankfully living in a 3rd world country we mostly get old tech here that still has such buttons.

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Ahielia · May 1st, 2012, 00:49

Because it's hard to plug it in when you need it, then unplug it when you don't need it.

Paratech · May 1st, 2012, 01:24

Well take tonight for instance, Charline was out with her family and I was hungry so I cooked / grilled my angus burger before she came home. When she came back I had the grill still plugged in and "off." as it has an off switch and it was easier flicking a switch and heating her burger than putting the grill away and bringing it back out.

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KrossX · May 1st, 2012, 02:55

If there was no switch, why put the grill away? Just leave it there unplugged. Then instead of a button, just plug it back in.

And if you have something that you really wish it had switch, then make it one.

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ElijahTW · May 1st, 2012, 02:58

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Originally Posted by KrossX

If there was no switch, why put the grill away? Just leave it there unplugged. Then instead of a button, just plug it back in.

And if you have something that you really wish it had switch, then make it one.

Indeed. An inline switch wouldn't be hard to add.

While I think small appliances SHOULD have switches, I don't really care if they do or not.

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Ahielia · May 1st, 2012, 03:29

Quote:

Originally Posted by Paratech

Well take tonight for instance, Charline was out with her family and I was hungry so I cooked / grilled my angus burger before she came home. When she came back I had the grill still plugged in and "off." as it has an off switch and it was easier flicking a switch and heating her burger than putting the grill away and bringing it back out.

That half second extra it takes to physically pull the cord out of the socket compared to flipping a switch is that exhausting to you?

**SCHUMI_4EVER** · May 1st, 2012, 14:37

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Originally Posted by Ahielia

Because it's hard to plug it in when you need it, then unplug it when you don't need it.

Not hard, just stupid.

And depending on how the plugs are positioned around your house, yes it can be hard.

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Hyuga · May 1st, 2012, 15:10

That is why we have switches in the electric outlets here

Paratech · May 1st, 2012, 15:49

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Originally Posted by Ahielia

That half second extra it takes to physically pull the cord out of the socket compared to flipping a switch is that exhausting to you?

It's "I don't like unplugged cords hanging on a counter" part.

I think its unsafe.

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Strike105X · May 1st, 2012, 15:55

Like BigIg said best way to solve it is by adding an inline switch.

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Paratech · May 1st, 2012, 16:01

I don't have the skills nor want to ruin a warranty nor make a fire hazard.

I'm no electrician.

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Strike105X · May 1st, 2012, 16:10

You don't need skills nor to ruin the warranty now to make a fire hazzard to add one, there is though a simpler way buy an extension cord with a switch.

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Silenus · May 1st, 2012, 16:39

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Originally Posted by galson

That is why we have switches in the electric outlets here

That's actually nice.

I've never seen that before.

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aceloop · May 2nd, 2012, 00:38

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That's actually nice.

I've never seen that before.

welcome to the 21st century.

Mad · May 2nd, 2012, 00:45

Well i have an external USB 3.0 WD, with no power switch.
It's really strange, the time i plug it on power, the HDD starts spinning, but the lights doesn't lid, until i plug it into USB port on my pc.

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ViperXtreme · May 2nd, 2012, 01:01

plugging it in directly and turning on immediately can sometimes (or almost most of the time) produce nasty arcing, and may produce black soot and even eventually burn the insulator of the plug (or the socket itself).
Extension plugs with switches? jes make sure it can take a heavy stress from large resistive loads such as heaters/range/toasters etc (tho sometimes some folks use a normal cheap extension anyway).
Ive seen a lot switches with that on and off switch and sometimes it even includes GFCI function when the socket is used outdoors/humid environments.

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ElijahTW · May 4th, 2012, 02:46

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Originally Posted by ViperXtreme

plugging it in directly and turning on immediately can sometimes (or almost most of the time) produce nasty arcing, and may produce black soot and even eventually burn the insulator of the plug (or the socket itself).
Extension plugs with switches? jes make sure it can take a heavy stress from large resistive loads such as heaters/range/toasters etc (tho sometimes some folks use a normal cheap extension anyway).

A) While I've seen appliances cause a minor arc, I've never seen it make an outlet fail any faster than you'd expect an outlet to fail. (And if it does, 15 amp outlets are like 59 cents to replace around here..)

You do make a point with the second one.. You'd want at least a 14 gauge extension cord... Those cheapo 16 and 18 gauge cords shouldn't be subjected to the 1000+watt loads of kitchen appliances. (Sorry, I can't think of the metric equivalents for the gauge sizes off the top of my head.)

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Paratech Registered User Join Date: Sep 2004 Location: USA Posts: 8,010	Why do they make some electric devices with no on/off switch? I have a sandwich maker that I like, I enjoy hot sandwiches for lunch most of the week. The thing I hate is that it has no on/off switch. The moment I plug it in, it turns on. My PS2/Wii and former electric grill are the same. One of the things I love about my "current" electric grill is it does have an on/off switch. Are electronics becoming so freaking cheap that on/off switches are too much to include? I can't imagine its good for them when they're plugged and unplugged, and I bet it shortens their lifespan, plus wastes electricity and wouldn't be good for the environment. __________________ Spoiler: -Dreams of getting a new 360 XBOX in 201x. -Current consoles:Wii, Slim PS2, also has 3DS / GBA SP and a PSP 3000 -PC: AMD Quad Core A8-3800 Accelerated Processor, 16GB DDR3 Ram, Radeon HD45xx 1 GB video card, 1 TB hard drive, 500 GB hard drive, Supermulti DVD Burner, Wireless Lan 802.11 b/g/n, Beats audio Studio Quality sound, Win 7 Home Premium Yes, I like getting (primarily digital) games on sale @ bargain prices! don't like it? Just deal with it!

May 1st, 2012, 01:24	#6
Paratech Registered User Join Date: Sep 2004 Location: USA Posts: 8,010	Well take tonight for instance, Charline was out with her family and I was hungry so I cooked / grilled my angus burger before she came home. When she came back I had the grill still plugged in and "off." as it has an off switch and it was easier flicking a switch and heating her burger than putting the grill away and bringing it back out. __________________ Spoiler: -Dreams of getting a new 360 XBOX in 201x. -Current consoles:Wii, Slim PS2, also has 3DS / GBA SP and a PSP 3000 -PC: AMD Quad Core A8-3800 Accelerated Processor, 16GB DDR3 Ram, Radeon HD45xx 1 GB video card, 1 TB hard drive, 500 GB hard drive, Supermulti DVD Burner, Wireless Lan 802.11 b/g/n, Beats audio Studio Quality sound, Win 7 Home Premium Yes, I like getting (primarily digital) games on sale @ bargain prices! don't like it? Just deal with it!

May 1st, 2012, 16:01	#14
Paratech Registered User Join Date: Sep 2004 Location: USA Posts: 8,010	I don't have the skills nor want to ruin a warranty nor make a fire hazard. I'm no electrician. __________________ Spoiler: -Dreams of getting a new 360 XBOX in 201x. -Current consoles:Wii, Slim PS2, also has 3DS / GBA SP and a PSP 3000 -PC: AMD Quad Core A8-3800 Accelerated Processor, 16GB DDR3 Ram, Radeon HD45xx 1 GB video card, 1 TB hard drive, 500 GB hard drive, Supermulti DVD Burner, Wireless Lan 802.11 b/g/n, Beats audio Studio Quality sound, Win 7 Home Premium Yes, I like getting (primarily digital) games on sale @ bargain prices! don't like it? Just deal with it!

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April 29th, 2012, 18:19	#2
Hard core Rikki Moving into the beat Join Date: May 2004 Location: Perpetual Hawaii Posts: 11,271	There arent really any reasons. Some devices like grills run have delayed operational use (here grills take time to warm, and are only brought out when theyre to be used), so it kinda makes some sense, though switches would still be ideal. __________________ deviantART \| Blog \| VBA-M \| GeneralEmu \| XTemu \| FMVTool2 \| @ES \| Shendo new NGemu toolbar http://ngemu.ourtoolbar.com

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SCHUMI_4EVER Hackin 'n Slashin Join Date: Jan 2007 Location: Most-expensive-Internet-on-the-Planet Land : South Africa Posts: 26,321	Yeah I also also really don't like the lack of on/off button, thankfully living in a 3rd world country we mostly get old tech here that still has such buttons. __________________ Intel Core2Quad Q9550 (2.83Ghz stock) \| ASUS P5Q \| 2x2GB Transcend JetRam DDR2-800 \| ASUS ENGTX260\HDTP\896M \| Windows Vista Home Premium 64bit SP1 The Champ has retired but may his Legacy live on FOREVER !!!! No$GBA DS FAQ 2.0 Get it right fools! The glass is HALF-EMPTY, not half-full!!! !!! WARNING: Emulation requires a brain !!! WARNING: Emulation =/= Piracy !!!

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Ahielia I'm sexy and I know it! Join Date: Jan 2009 Location: VIKINGLAND! Posts: 4,359	Because it's hard to plug it in when you need it, then unplug it when you don't need it.

May 1st, 2012, 02:55	#7
KrossX クロッスエクス Join Date: Mar 2006 Location: Argentina Posts: 3,638	If there was no switch, why put the grill away? Just leave it there unplugged. Then instead of a button, just plug it back in. And if you have something that you really wish it had switch, then make it one. __________________

May 1st, 2012, 15:10	#11
Hyuga Calming silence... Join Date: Mar 2004 Location: Éire Posts: 3,098	That is why we have switches in the electric outlets here

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Strike105X ヒットハード＆高速 Join Date: Dec 2005 Location: Aincrad Posts: 13,679	Like BigIg said best way to solve it is by adding an inline switch. __________________ DeviantArt\|AnimeList\|PC Config

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Strike105X ヒットハード＆高速 Join Date: Dec 2005 Location: Aincrad Posts: 13,679	You don't need skills nor to ruin the warranty now to make a fire hazzard to add one, there is though a simpler way buy an extension cord with a switch. __________________ DeviantArt\|AnimeList\|PC Config

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Mad AKA snkmad Join Date: Apr 2001 Location: Brazil, Fortaleza-Ceará Posts: 4,030	Well i have an external USB 3.0 WD, with no power switch. It's really strange, the time i plug it on power, the HDD starts spinning, but the lights doesn't lid, until i plug it into USB port on my pc. __________________ Main PC:Win 7 SP1 PRO X64 - Asus P5G41C-M LX - Intel Q6600@2.4Ghz - OCZ 2x 2GB DDR2 1000Mhz - Sapphire Vapor-X HD5770 1GB GDDR5 - 19" LCD SyncMaster T190 - Samsung SATA II HD322HJ 320GB HTPC:Acer Aspire AR1600 - Windows 7 PRO X86 - Atom 230@1.6Ghz - 3GB DDR2 800Mhz - Nvidia ION LE - SATA II WD 160GB + Seagate GoFlex Desk 2TB USB 3.0 Notebook:Dell Inspiron 14R N4110 - Windows 7 SP1 PRO X64 / Ubuntu 12.04 X64 - Intel Core i5 2410M@2.3Ghz - 8GB DDR3@1333Mhz - Intel HD 3000 - WDC SATA II 640GB + SSD Kingston V200 128GB +WD Scorpio Blue 320GB USB 3.0 CASE

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ViperXtreme Irregular User Join Date: Jun 2003 Location: Manila, Philippines Posts: 2,540	plugging it in directly and turning on immediately can sometimes (or almost most of the time) produce nasty arcing, and may produce black soot and even eventually burn the insulator of the plug (or the socket itself). Extension plugs with switches? jes make sure it can take a heavy stress from large resistive loads such as heaters/range/toasters etc (tho sometimes some folks use a normal cheap extension anyway). Ive seen a lot switches with that on and off switch and sometimes it even includes GFCI function when the socket is used outdoors/humid environments. __________________ System Specs? what "system specs?" are those edible? My Deviantart: http://viperxtreme.deviantart.com Webcomic Series: http://www.smackjeeves.com/profile.php?id=79364