Obama signed "H.R.347" (peaceful protests -> 10 years of prison)

[Hard core Rikki]

Looks like the man is serving his masters well. Onward to a second election, unless peasants demand a new puppet.
There go even more civil liberties down the drain, signed away by their most vocal 'defender'.

Peaceful protests anywhere in the US are now a federal felony punishable by up to 10 years in prison.
Only 3 people in the entire congress voted against it (like Ron Paul), the rest approving it with uncontrolled enthusiasm.


http://www.opednews.com/articles/H-R...tml?show=votes

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[Strike105X]

They should have made it a death sentence, we don't need no protest genes spreading around the people...

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[Phil]

So MLK would have gotten 10 years in prison for the March on Washington?

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[capo_2k]

lol yeah right. Wait until they try and enforce it. It'll be a public outrage. Everyone will go nuts.

I mean, people are already getting furious at just the thought of it.

[refraction]

Rikki, did you even read the bill? For a starts it's a disruption of any government function by people trespassing on the land, so if they are protesting in the street (peacefully) they wont be arrested.

secondly you have to either be carrying a firearm/dangerous weapon or causes harm to the persons theyre protesting against to be sentenced to 1-10 years in prison (was up to 10, not always 10)

So yes this bill stops unpeaceful protests, but it doesnt stop peaceful ones.

I guess if you will read anti-establishment news sites and not more neutral sources ;p

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[Phil]

That was my point. If the Bill stops Peaceful protests, it would be hypocritical.

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[capo_2k]

Originally Posted by refraction

For a starts it's a disruption of any government function by people trespassing on the land, so if they are protesting in the street (peacefully) they wont be arrested.

secondly you have to either be carrying a firearm/dangerous weapon or causes harm to the persons theyre protesting against.

So yes this bill stops unpeaceful protests, but it doesnt stop peaceful ones.

Disregard my previous post.

[the_randomizer]

So.... with the way this country's going, are the same people who voted for Obama four years ago planing on voting for him again? If he's reelected, I'm defecting to Japan.

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[tykel]

Originally Posted by the_randomizer

So.... with the way this country's going, are the same people who voted for Obama four years ago planing on voting for him again? If he's reelected, I'm defecting to Japan.

Because you would rather see one of the GOP contestants become President maybe?

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[the_randomizer]

Yes, but I'd rather not discuss my political preferences in depth here...if I did, I'd get ripped to shreds. But since I already let the cat out of the bag, I'm SOL.

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[Phil]

I see your concern, but I fail see how this will affect you in any way. Unless maybe someone plans to plan to band together and shoot up D.C.

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[blueshogun96]

Originally Posted by Phil

I see your concern, but I fail see how this will affect you in any way. Unless maybe someone plans to plan to band together and shoot up D.C.

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[the_randomizer]

Originally Posted by Phil

I see your concern, but I fail see how this will affect you in any way. Unless maybe someone plans to plan to band together and shoot up D.C.

I was mostly referring to which side of the political spectrum I agree with (conservative vs. liberal); the very idea that I would have the plans, much less the balls to go to DC and tell Obama a thing or two are the farthest from my mind right now. Let's just say that the people who live in the state I live in are primarily Conservative/Republican. The bill passing doesn't affect me directly, no, but with all these bills that are being passed so far this year (ACTA, NDAA, and now this POS), the Congress Clowns are slowly but surely jacking up what's should be a more-or-less free country. In fact, the founding fathers never intended for the federal government to have this much power. I still stand by what I said earlier, if he's reelected, I'm moving back to Japan for a while...how I miss that place.

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[Khameleon]

Im all for peaceful protests, but will they get the people what they want, really? It seems confrontation is the only way to oust a government, and if the Egyptians, Libyans, Yemenis and Bahrainis(who have been all but eliminated from news reports) can confront a government and storm governmental areas while the US calls it 'fighting for equality and human rights', why can't the people of the US do the same if its for the same reason?

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[@ruantec]

I'm all for peaceful protests but they rarely move the big people to do something... instead they just laugh there ass off by looking the protestants from there windows. That's the reason why protestants get out of control as they feel ignored.

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[Strike105X]

^Indeed, my thoughts exactly.

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[the_randomizer]

Originally Posted by Khameleon

Im all for peaceful protests, but will they get the people what they want, really? It seems confrontation is the only way to oust a government, and if the Egyptians, Libyans, Yemenis and Bahrainis(who have been all but eliminated from news reports) can confront a government and storm governmental areas while the US calls it 'fighting for equality and human rights', why can't the people of the US do the same if its for the same reason?

Because many of us don't have the balls to stand up for what we believe in

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[refraction]

Originally Posted by Khameleon

Im all for peaceful protests, but will they get the people what they want, really? It seems confrontation is the only way to oust a government, and if the Egyptians, Libyans, Yemenis and Bahrainis(who have been all but eliminated from news reports) can confront a government and storm governmental areas while the US calls it 'fighting for equality and human rights', why can't the people of the US do the same if its for the same reason?

Storming a government property (IE the whitehouse) or gatecrashing a governmental event isnt exactly peaceful protesting. Sure we're democratic as 1st world societies, that gives us the right to say we don't like something and make a demonstration against it. It doesnt give you the right to pretty much attack your president or shoot people randomly at them locations, thats all this bill is stopping.

If you think you need the right to have a gun and stick it in the presidents face, you sir, are an uncivilized moron.

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[the_randomizer]

Just because he's our president doesn't mean I have to be coerced into agreeing with him, now does it?

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[Dynamo]

Originally Posted by refraction

Storming a government property (IE the whitehouse) or gatecrashing a governmental event isnt exactly peaceful protesting. Sure we're democratic as 1st world societies, that gives us the right to say we don't like something and make a demonstration against it. It doesnt give you the right to pretty much attack your president or shoot people randomly at them locations, thats all this bill is stopping.

If you think you need the right to have a gun and stick it in the presidents face, you sir, are an uncivilized moron.

You must see the hypocrisy in encouraging it elsewhere and passing this bill...

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