Secret of Mana

Taisen · March 15th, 2002, 03:35

The two things I hate the most are it feels like you are dragging along the other members in your party, and getting in the right spot to use the flail for crossing a pit. That last problem was non-existant in Final Fantasy Adventure.

Do you feel that FFA wasn't as cutesy as the rest of the mana series? Did you use the sprite's magic against almost all the bosses as soon as you got it?

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**Bgnome** · March 15th, 2002, 03:37

getting in the right spot is easy. just move around until everybody just groups together. and ive always found that the balance between the 3 characters was pretty good and makes the multiplayer aspect more fun

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**Kane** · March 15th, 2002, 03:43

The boy was really powerful, which was helpful when the bosses were resistant to magic.

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Taisen · March 15th, 2002, 03:58

I found it too hard to hit the damn creatures with the weapons and then the charging up after missing was quite annoying until much later on.

**Bgnome** · March 15th, 2002, 04:00

thats why you knock em down and then time it right so they never get back up

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**Kane** · March 15th, 2002, 04:14

You have the sprite and the girl pin them with a couple of spells, then hit em while they is down.

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Taisen · March 15th, 2002, 04:24

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thats why you knock em down and then time it right so they never get back up

Back then it seemed easier to do that for the little guys. I was usually too afraid to do that for anything bigger.

I am not looking for winning strategies. I have been done with this game for awhile. I thought this was the right place to post any type of game comment.

**Kane** · March 15th, 2002, 04:27

Well, I haven't got round to playing FFA yet, so I couldn't yet comment on that.

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Taisen · March 15th, 2002, 16:36

Maybe it was only the missing pastels that made FFA seem less cutesy than Secret of Mana.

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The Vagrant · March 17th, 2002, 18:59

SD3 was the best of the series anyways...

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Ninjaa · March 18th, 2002, 00:28

I always liked the second one better. I am probably the only one though. I prefer a more linear storyline.

Exodus · March 18th, 2002, 01:04

so you probably wouldn't like Baldur's Gate much then.

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**Ryos** · March 18th, 2002, 03:09

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I always liked the second one better. I am probably the only one though. I prefer a more linear storyline.

I also liked SD 2 the most, although I also think SD is better than SD 3 (especially if you consider the limitations of the hardware for the original). SD 3 is technically the best game from a gameplay perspective, but that isn't a particularly important point in RPGs.

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Auri87 · March 18th, 2002, 03:49

SD3 was one of my favorite snes games, particually because there were so many characters to choose from

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**Demigod** · March 18th, 2002, 05:01

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I also liked SD 2 the most, although I also think SD is better than SD 3 (especially if you consider the limitations of the hardware for the original). SD 3 is technically the best game from a gameplay perspective, but that isn't a particularly important point in RPGs.

On the contraty, I didn't really like the battle system in SD3. The characters felt somewhat stiff and didn't always act the way you wanted them to. The attacks and hit effects weren't always in sync so it always felt kinda "loose", if you know what I mean.

I thought SD3 had a very unique plot design. I like how it's linear up to the mana holyland whereupon it splits into one of three scenarios, depending on the character. I've yet to face the dark priest and I'm considering playing it again so I can fully complete the game. There are so many different character classes so the replay value is pretty big.

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**fivefeet8** · March 18th, 2002, 05:22

ahh.. Secret of Mana.. I must've played that game through like 10 times.. I played it through once on Zsnes.. The strange thing about SOM is that you can play through as many times as you want, but you mostly end up with a different amount of weapon upgrades.. I once had a level 10 whip by the end of the game..

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Exodus · March 18th, 2002, 19:41

i probably played SoM about 0.05 times...

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**Kane** · March 18th, 2002, 19:50

I much preffered the original to number 2 (SoM labeling). 2 was good, but I agree with our resident demigod; the battle system didn't feel as fast as the original, and that really lowered it's potential.

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RhombusYSS · March 18th, 2002, 20:37

By the end of SOM you're SUPPOSED to have only Level 8 on every weapon. Sometimes however weird stuff happens, like enemies drop weapon orbs, or there are enumeration errors (happens on the console, not just emulators). Yeah, for example I had a level 10 sword and a bunch of level 9 stuff, next time through I only had regular level 8 stuff. Haha, and it drove me crazy, cause I kept on thinking I had missed secrets that I found the first time through.

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Lyrai · March 21st, 2002, 03:47

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By the end of SOM you're SUPPOSED to have only Level 8 on every weapon. Sometimes however weird stuff happens, like enemies drop weapon orbs, or there are enumeration errors (happens on the console, not just emulators). Yeah, for example I had a level 10 sword and a bunch of level 9 stuff, next time through I only had regular level 8 stuff. Haha, and it drove me crazy, cause I kept on thinking I had missed secrets that I found the first time through.

You did miss secrets. There are level nine orbs for every weapon except the orb (unless you exploit a glich, but lets not go into that)You have to kill enough of a certain enemy in the mana fortress:

Spear orb: Tsunami (The blue goop things that multiply)
Axe orb: Fiend Head (Floating yellow head)
Whip orb: Terminators (Gold knights)
Boomerang orb: Master Ninja (Black ninja)
Glove orb: Wolf Lord (Upright light blue wolf)
Bow orb: Metal Crab
Javelin: Whimper (A floating eye, I think)

The best armors are also won from enemies. go here: http://mmxz.zophar.net/rpg/mana/som.html

FFA put me to sleep every time I played it
SoM 2 ruled, and SD3 was pretty good

I have a question for anybody who has Level 8 spells. I noticed when I hit level 7 for the elemental, I started getting diffrent animations for the spells (Fire Dragons instead of Fire Balls) Has anyone ever casted Evil Gate (Shade) and got a bunch of Shadow Zeros running across the screen instead of the swirling gates? No one I've talked to has seen this. I'm starting to think I was dreaming.
Oh yeah. THE SPRITE RULES!!

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March 15th, 2002, 03:35	#1
Taisen Banned Join Date: Feb 2002 Posts: 1,317	Secret of Mana The two things I hate the most are it feels like you are dragging along the other members in your party, and getting in the right spot to use the flail for crossing a pit. That last problem was non-existant in Final Fantasy Adventure. Do you feel that FFA wasn't as cutesy as the rest of the mana series? Did you use the sprite's magic against almost all the bosses as soon as you got it? Last edited by Taisen; March 15th, 2002 at 03:36..

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March 15th, 2002, 03:37	#2
Bgnome Who Da Gnome? Join Date: Apr 2001 Location: At Home Posts: 2,441	getting in the right spot is easy. just move around until everybody just groups together. and ive always found that the balance between the 3 characters was pretty good and makes the multiplayer aspect more fun __________________ May the Gnome™ be With You

March 15th, 2002, 03:43	#3
Kane 邪魔ゎ指せない Join Date: Jan 2002 Location: Gosport, England Posts: 26,303	The boy was really powerful, which was helpful when the bosses were resistant to magic. __________________ >Site Live< Pop over to my site for help with setting up PSX emulators. Help for the Final Fantasies and other RPGs avalaible Celes: (Desktop) Phenom II X4, 4Gb DDR2, GeForce 8800 GTS 320Mb, 32Gb OCZ Vertex SSD, 500Gb RAID HDD, Windows 7 Home Premium Erika: (MCPC) Revo3610, Windows 7 Home Premium Kimiko: (Craptop) HP Mini 210

March 15th, 2002, 03:58	#4
Taisen Banned Join Date: Feb 2002 Posts: 1,317	I found it too hard to hit the damn creatures with the weapons and then the charging up after missing was quite annoying until much later on.

March 15th, 2002, 04:00	#5
Bgnome Who Da Gnome? Join Date: Apr 2001 Location: At Home Posts: 2,441	thats why you knock em down and then time it right so they never get back up __________________ May the Gnome™ be With You

March 15th, 2002, 04:14	#6
Kane 邪魔ゎ指せない Join Date: Jan 2002 Location: Gosport, England Posts: 26,303	You have the sprite and the girl pin them with a couple of spells, then hit em while they is down. __________________ >Site Live< Pop over to my site for help with setting up PSX emulators. Help for the Final Fantasies and other RPGs avalaible Celes: (Desktop) Phenom II X4, 4Gb DDR2, GeForce 8800 GTS 320Mb, 32Gb OCZ Vertex SSD, 500Gb RAID HDD, Windows 7 Home Premium Erika: (MCPC) Revo3610, Windows 7 Home Premium Kimiko: (Craptop) HP Mini 210

March 15th, 2002, 04:27	#8
Kane 邪魔ゎ指せない Join Date: Jan 2002 Location: Gosport, England Posts: 26,303	Well, I haven't got round to playing FFA yet, so I couldn't yet comment on that. __________________ >Site Live< Pop over to my site for help with setting up PSX emulators. Help for the Final Fantasies and other RPGs avalaible Celes: (Desktop) Phenom II X4, 4Gb DDR2, GeForce 8800 GTS 320Mb, 32Gb OCZ Vertex SSD, 500Gb RAID HDD, Windows 7 Home Premium Erika: (MCPC) Revo3610, Windows 7 Home Premium Kimiko: (Craptop) HP Mini 210

March 15th, 2002, 16:36	#9
Taisen Banned Join Date: Feb 2002 Posts: 1,317	Maybe it was only the missing pastels that made FFA seem less cutesy than Secret of Mana. Last edited by Taisen; March 15th, 2002 at 16:38..

March 17th, 2002, 18:59	#10
The Vagrant Registered User Join Date: Jul 2001 Location: Valnain, Valendia Posts: 425	SD3 was the best of the series anyways... __________________ Warping the minds of men and sheperding the masses has always been your church’s domain. You lure sheep with empty miracles and a dead god. Or perhaps you, too, are a sheep. A poor little lamb, bleating for your faith as though it were milk of the poppy. Yet mark your savior well, for he is one of the demons you so fear.

March 18th, 2002, 00:28	#11
Ninjaa Banned Join Date: Oct 2001 Location: Soviet Canuckistan Posts: 7,778	I always liked the second one better. I am probably the only one though. I prefer a more linear storyline.

March 18th, 2002, 01:04	#12
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Auri87 aka. "Kr0nic_2000" Join Date: Dec 2001 Location: If i told you then i would have to kill you... Posts: 2,165	SD3 was one of my favorite snes games, particually because there were so many characters to choose from __________________ If you're lying to me, I'll kill ya. If I think you're lying to me, I'll kill ya. If you leave anything out, I'll kill ya. As a matter of fact you're gonna have to work very hard to stay alive. Do you understand? Good, cause if you don't, I'll kill ya. "trying is the first step towards failure" -Homer Simpson- check out my 3d marks http://service.madonion.com/compare?2k1=4481587

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fivefeet8 &-)---\|--< Join Date: Apr 2001 Location: Smallville Posts: 8,060	ahh.. Secret of Mana.. I must've played that game through like 10 times.. I played it through once on Zsnes.. The strange thing about SOM is that you can play through as many times as you want, but you mostly end up with a different amount of weapon upgrades.. I once had a level 10 whip by the end of the game.. __________________ Play emulated games online Main Rig\|\|Intel i7 2600k @4.4 ghz\|2x4 gb DDR3 1600\|Asrock Extreme7 Gen3\|EVGA GTX670 2GB\|EVGA GTX460 PhysX\|2x Seagate 160gb SATA150 Raid0\|250 gb Samsung SATA2 HD\| OCZ 240GB SSD SATA3 \|NEC 3520 4x/8x DVD+R/RW DL burner\|Rosewill 1000 Watt\|40" Sony Bravia 1080p\|Logitec 5.1 Speaker System w/10" Sub\|Windows 7 64bit Ultimate\|\| SimplyBuyIt - Health&Nutrition

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Exodus ...and now they do. Join Date: Jan 2002 Location: Null Posts: 20,000	i probably played SoM about 0.05 times... ... __________________ No, I don't like anime, Street Fighter, Japanese music or download video game music. Yes, I know, I'm weird.

March 18th, 2002, 19:50	#18
Kane 邪魔ゎ指せない Join Date: Jan 2002 Location: Gosport, England Posts: 26,303	I much preffered the original to number 2 (SoM labeling). 2 was good, but I agree with our resident demigod; the battle system didn't feel as fast as the original, and that really lowered it's potential. __________________ >Site Live< Pop over to my site for help with setting up PSX emulators. Help for the Final Fantasies and other RPGs avalaible Celes: (Desktop) Phenom II X4, 4Gb DDR2, GeForce 8800 GTS 320Mb, 32Gb OCZ Vertex SSD, 500Gb RAID HDD, Windows 7 Home Premium Erika: (MCPC) Revo3610, Windows 7 Home Premium Kimiko: (Craptop) HP Mini 210

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RhombusYSS -=NJ Nets NBA Champs 2k2= Join Date: Feb 2002 Posts: 384	By the end of SOM you're SUPPOSED to have only Level 8 on every weapon. Sometimes however weird stuff happens, like enemies drop weapon orbs, or there are enumeration errors (happens on the console, not just emulators). Yeah, for example I had a level 10 sword and a bunch of level 9 stuff, next time through I only had regular level 8 stuff. Haha, and it drove me crazy, cause I kept on thinking I had missed secrets that I found the first time through. __________________ "Nuh hee ga hip-hop eul ah neu nyah?" Long live the NJ Nets!! Next target: Baron Davis and the Hornets Tsuyokereba ikiru, yowakereba shinu. Sorya kono jinsei no ichiban taisetsu na shinjitsu...jaa, soshite, ikura jinrui no inochi ga kouka ka misete kure! Windows XP Pro, Athlon 1.5 Ghz, 512 MB DDR RAM, ASUS 6800 Deluxe GeForce 32MB DDR, SB Audigy Gamer