Stop buying Samsung

**Hard core Rikki** · March 31st, 2011, 11:11

Apparently, Samsung has gotten caught pants down deliberately installing spying software on the laptops it sells.

- Samsung Installing Keyloggers on its Laptops? > Comments
- Samsung installs keylogger on its laptop computers
- Samsung responds to installation of keylogger on its laptop computers

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Hearkening back to the Sony Rootkit brouhaha from a few years ago, a security researcher is claiming in a Network World article that he detected factory-installed keyloggers in two brand new Samsung Laptops. Samsung has made no official response, but a tech support supervisor contacted by the author said that the keystroke logging software was installed by Samsung to "monitor the performance of the machine and to find out how it is being used."

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Phil · March 31st, 2011, 11:29

Unfortunately, they make the best TV's. Decisions, decisions.

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imlost · March 31st, 2011, 17:10

Quote:

Originally Posted by Hard core Rikki

Apparently, Samsung has gotten caught pants down deliberately installing spying software on the laptops it sells.

- Samsung Installing Keyloggers on its Laptops? > Comments
- Samsung installs keylogger on its laptop computers
- Samsung responds to installation of keylogger on its laptop computers

This is just a false alarm. Just take a look at the updated message in the third link that you posted.

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Ahielia · March 31st, 2011, 18:28

You should format the harddrive if you get a pre-installed OS on the computer anyway.
Usually way too much bloatware.

Also, didn't really think Samsung made laptops.
Only cared for their display devices.

Hyuga · March 31st, 2011, 18:40

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Originally Posted by Ahielia

You should format the harddrive if you get a pre-installed OS on the computer anyway.
Usually way too much bloatware.

This.

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Also, didn't really think Samsung made laptops.
Only cared for their display devices.

And this.

First thing I do with a laptop is format it, partition the hdd my way and install the OS myself as well as programs.

I also am pretty happy with my Samsung TV and Samsung PC monitor

Xblade · March 31st, 2011, 19:26

I like their cellphones too......

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lagunareturns · March 31st, 2011, 19:26

who buys samsung laptops anyways.... everyone just buys the mointors, tvsm dvd drives, etc....

actully its so rare to see a person with a samsung laptop

Titus03 · March 31st, 2011, 21:13

Yeah. I've never seen anyone using their laptops. Currently I have 0 products from Samsung. A friend of mine is dreaming about an old model of Samsung mobile phone.

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Mad · March 31st, 2011, 21:22

I currently have a Samsung pc monitor and galaxy 5 phone.
Works great here. Unless they start installing spyware into android also...

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**Hard core Rikki** · March 31st, 2011, 21:27

Like here? Samsung does install Carrier IQ on its androids (its referred to as "Mobile Service Intelligence")
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=11763089

Pre-installed OSes are nothing that should be trusted. Spyware should be the least of worries, if you think about it. Mind you, they usually never preinstall pre-activated highly useful stuff like OS-independant theft recovery software.

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**blueshogun96** · April 1st, 2011, 04:02

The only use I have of Samsung is CD/DVD drives and Ram. Nothing more, nothing less.

Either way, this clever tactic can be used by big corporations as well as the government to invade your privacy (once again, in the name of security) and easily label you as a terrorist if they don't like you giving them the right to throw you in a concentration camp never to be seen again (at least in the US they can). That's IF they wanted to do so.

Some of you might say "It's nothing to worry about; and if you aren't doing anything wrong, what's the big deal?". Simply put, I don't like being spied on.

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ElijahTW · April 1st, 2011, 04:59

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Originally Posted by Hard core Rikki

Pre-installed OSes are nothing that should be trusted.

Indeed. I always download a clean bloatless version of whatever version of Windows came with the PC and do a fresh install using the included serial number. Hell, since most OEM PCs come horribly out of date as far as updates go, half of the time it's quicker to just download a Windows ISO with the latest updates slip-screened in already.

Spoiler:

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**blueshogun96** · April 1st, 2011, 05:01

I won't. Hell, I encourage it.

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Hyuga · April 1st, 2011, 06:21

I do that as well, the PCs/laps with pre-installed OSes don't usually come with installation discs anyway, just some crappy recovery **** which does no good.

ElijahTW · April 1st, 2011, 06:23

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Originally Posted by galson

I do that as well, the PCs/laps with pre-installed OSes don't usually come with installation discs anyway, just some crappy recovery **** which does no good.

Or even worse yet, when they include no discs at all and have the recovery files on a separate partition. Which of course is useless if you ever decide to replace the harddrive due to failure or otherwise. (Not to mention, it wastes space. My old Acer craptop had 20GB of it's 80GB harddrive partitioned for recovery...)

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**n_w95482** · April 1st, 2011, 06:27

Samsung 'keylogger' is a GFI VIPRE antivirus false-positive | ZDNet

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Spyhop · April 1st, 2011, 07:45

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Originally Posted by n_w95482

Samsung 'keylogger' is a GFI VIPRE antivirus false-positive | ZDNet

This is the 2nd time this has been said. Will people listen this time or continue ragging about how evil Samsung is?

**Hard core Rikki** · April 1st, 2011, 09:48

That still wouldnt explain why the samsung official that was contacted told the researcher that samsung does indeed install and use loggers on its laptops for intelligence gathering about its customers' behaviour.

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Ahielia · April 1st, 2011, 11:12

Quote:

Originally Posted by ElijahTW

Spoiler:

Silenus · April 1st, 2011, 14:21

Actually their new series 9 laptops look good.
A bit expensive.

Would like one.

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March 31st, 2011, 11:29	#2
Phil 339.9 Join Date: Oct 2007 Location: USA Posts: 14,777	Unfortunately, they make the best TV's. Decisions, decisions. __________________ Vision is the art of seeing what is invisible to others

March 31st, 2011, 18:28	#4
Ahielia I'm sexy and I know it! Join Date: Jan 2009 Location: VIKINGLAND! Posts: 4,348	You should format the harddrive if you get a pre-installed OS on the computer anyway. Usually way too much bloatware. Also, didn't really think Samsung made laptops. Only cared for their display devices.

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Xblade Eating your Future Join Date: May 2008 Location: The Shadow Realm. Posts: 8,108	I like their cellphones too...... __________________

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lagunareturns Registered User Join Date: Dec 2007 Location: Australia Posts: 1,317	who buys samsung laptops anyways.... everyone just buys the mointors, tvsm dvd drives, etc.... actully its so rare to see a person with a samsung laptop

March 31st, 2011, 21:13	#8
Titus03 Registered MSX user Join Date: Aug 2003 Location: ? (In PAL-area) Posts: 1,620	Yeah. I've never seen anyone using their laptops. Currently I have 0 products from Samsung. A friend of mine is dreaming about an old model of Samsung mobile phone. __________________ DESKTOP: Intel Core2 Duo E8400 @3.0GHz · ASUS Commando · 4 GB DDR2 800MHz RAM · EVGA GeForce GTX 560 1024 MB · Corsair 620W 620HX 4x Seagate 320 GB HDD · Creative Sound Blaster X-Fi Platinum Fatal1ty Champion · Windows XP Pro SP3 32-bit / Ubuntu 12.04 64-bit LAPTOP: Toshiba Satellite Pro A300-293 with Ubuntu 12.04 32-bit

March 31st, 2011, 21:22	#9
Mad AKA snkmad Join Date: Apr 2001 Location: Brazil, Fortaleza-Ceará Posts: 4,030	I currently have a Samsung pc monitor and galaxy 5 phone. Works great here. Unless they start installing spyware into android also... __________________ Main PC:Win 7 SP1 PRO X64 - Asus P5G41C-M LX - Intel Q6600@2.4Ghz - OCZ 2x 2GB DDR2 1000Mhz - Sapphire Vapor-X HD5770 1GB GDDR5 - 19" LCD SyncMaster T190 - Samsung SATA II HD322HJ 320GB HTPC:Acer Aspire AR1600 - Windows 7 PRO X86 - Atom 230@1.6Ghz - 3GB DDR2 800Mhz - Nvidia ION LE - SATA II WD 160GB + Seagate GoFlex Desk 2TB USB 3.0 Notebook:Dell Inspiron 14R N4110 - Windows 7 SP1 PRO X64 / Ubuntu 12.04 X64 - Intel Core i5 2410M@2.3Ghz - 8GB DDR3@1333Mhz - Intel HD 3000 - WDC SATA II 640GB + SSD Kingston V200 128GB +WD Scorpio Blue 320GB USB 3.0 CASE

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Hard core Rikki Moving into the beat Join Date: May 2004 Location: Perpetual Hawaii Posts: 11,265	Like here? Samsung does install Carrier IQ on its androids (its referred to as "Mobile Service Intelligence") http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=11763089 Pre-installed OSes are nothing that should be trusted. Spyware should be the least of worries, if you think about it. Mind you, they usually never preinstall pre-activated highly useful stuff like OS-independant theft recovery software. __________________ deviantART \| Blog \| VBA-M \| GeneralEmu \| XTemu \| FMVTool2 \| @ES \| Shendo new NGemu toolbar http://ngemu.ourtoolbar.com

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blueshogun96 Last Xbox Emu Author Join Date: Jun 2004 Location: Seattle, WA, USA Posts: 5,843	The only use I have of Samsung is CD/DVD drives and Ram. Nothing more, nothing less. Either way, this clever tactic can be used by big corporations as well as the government to invade your privacy (once again, in the name of security) and easily label you as a terrorist if they don't like you giving them the right to throw you in a concentration camp never to be seen again (at least in the US they can). That's IF they wanted to do so. Some of you might say "It's nothing to worry about; and if you aren't doing anything wrong, what's the big deal?". Simply put, I don't like being spied on. __________________ Official Website of Shogun3D's RyuAwai! Shogun3D Game Development Blog Zengjük a Dalt: Manliest Song Ever!

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Hyuga Calming silence... Join Date: Mar 2004 Location: Éire Posts: 3,098	I do that as well, the PCs/laps with pre-installed OSes don't usually come with installation discs anyway, just some crappy recovery **** which does no good.

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Hard core Rikki Moving into the beat Join Date: May 2004 Location: Perpetual Hawaii Posts: 11,265	That still wouldnt explain why the samsung official that was contacted told the researcher that samsung does indeed install and use loggers on its laptops for intelligence gathering about its customers' behaviour. __________________ deviantART \| Blog \| VBA-M \| GeneralEmu \| XTemu \| FMVTool2 \| @ES \| Shendo new NGemu toolbar http://ngemu.ourtoolbar.com

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