Windows 7 Service Pack 1

Mad · February 27th, 2011, 20:18

Well i remember the days when Service Packs for XP were released, it was really a fuss all around.
But for 7, it's out already, and i hardly saw any news about it.

Should i just install it? Any reported problems?
Coz i use it in both my desktop and laptop.

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runawayprisoner · February 27th, 2011, 20:23

It's a consolidation of all of the patches thus far as far as I know. If you click Windows Update more than once a month for the past year or so, you're fine without the service pack.

masta.g.86 · February 27th, 2011, 22:08

I have 7 SP1 installed. It's more than a consolidation of patches. What it adds, though, I'm not sure. Doesn't seem to be anything critical.

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**Yeloazndevil** · February 27th, 2011, 22:48

Windows 7 SP1 does have a few changes, go here and dl the .doc file for notable changes.

best fix was an update for devices losing hdmi audio connection after a reboot.

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runawayprisoner · February 28th, 2011, 00:17

Ah, thanks, Yelo.

That was the fix I've been waiting for. My HTPC build is finally complete.

**Yeloazndevil** · February 28th, 2011, 00:58

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Ah, thanks, Yelo.

That was the fix I've been waiting for. My HTPC build is finally complete.

no problem, I only had that problem on amd and never nvidia or intel I wonder what amd did.

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masta.g.86 · February 28th, 2011, 01:28

Happened to me once. A full shutdown fixed it.

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KrossX · February 28th, 2011, 19:33

I can't install the blasted thing. I only have 5GB free of the 9GB it wants, being the WinSxS directory what takes most of the space on that drive (25GB). =S

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Spyhop · February 28th, 2011, 20:42

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I only have 5GB free

Fail. You should know better.

KrossX · February 28th, 2011, 20:45

Indeed.

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Princess Garnet · February 28th, 2011, 21:00

Seriously!? 5GB!? By that point, it's FAR been time for a new hard drive. I'm down to ~287GB free on my primary drive and I am starting to think of more and/or larger drives. I do have an empty one, so between then and now, I'll likely move my Steam install over to that or something, as it's taking up 261GB of what is taken. I'd never let it get nearly that low though.

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KrossX · February 28th, 2011, 21:05

There's 5GB free on my Windows install drive. I have a 1TB drive for Games/Stuff, that's at 80% usage. Then, I have another drive for Linux and whatnots.

I'll just slipstream the SP1 with the install DVD, then do a reinstall with it.

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Princess Garnet · February 28th, 2011, 21:49

The point wasn't how much space you have total. The point was, with your free space on your primary drive that low, it's time to rethink the setup.

I have two 640 drives for data (one is for data, the other is a duplicate of it for backup which I unhook except for when I'm backing up, which is roughly weekly).

A third 640GB drive is my OS drive. I... just have it simple, so all my installed stuff is there too. I have 287GB free of 596GB. So, roughly/nearly half of my drive is used. Steam takes a good chunk (read as, most) of that used space.

My fourth and last 640GB drive has no major role. It had Windows XP on it when I used it, but I also use it for FRAPS recordings and other miscellaneous things. It's mostly unused though. I'll probably toss Steam and it's games on there at some point.

The point is, you're at 5GB free, so it's time to start rethinking your setup, be it the partition setup if the drive is partitioned, a new drive altogether, or whatever. If you have to slipstream a disc and reinstall Windows to install a service pack, you may as well get this set since you're reinstalling anyway. A full drive often has reduced performance as well.

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Lasnap · February 28th, 2011, 22:05

Dang how many steam games do you have PG? Perosnaly I only have around 25 gigs free on my 250 gig harddrive here on my main pc. Ive got a lot of stored on a external 500 gig tho and thats got 202 gigs free. I dont have that many games installed most I have is like 5 right now if that. and most of them are less then 4 gigs each except for Neverwinter nights 1 and 2 and those take up a lot of space once you start installing mods to them. The biggest harddirve I own is the 500 gig external the rest are only 250 or smaller. my htpc has an 160 gig hdd along iwth a 250 gig hdd that has xp and a another 80 gig that has linux. the main os is vista right now tho.

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KrossX · March 1st, 2011, 00:26

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Originally Posted by Princess Garnet

The point wasn't how much space you have total. The point was, with your free space on your primary drive that low, it's time to rethink the setup.

[...]

The point is, you're at 5GB free, so it's time to start rethinking your setup, be it the partition setup if the drive is partitioned, a new drive altogether, or whatever. If you have to slipstream a disc and reinstall Windows to install a service pack, you may as well get this set since you're reinstalling anyway. A full drive often has reduced performance as well.

I have my reasons to keep the drive for its purpose, as you could've guessed. I had over 25GB free on it with all the needed programs installed and with no change ever since (restore and shadowcopies disabled). However, the winsxs directory has grown over 20GB since then, for whatever reason, and complicated things. Anyhow, the tradeoff of a new drive vs reinstalling is not that bad in my case.

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Mad · March 1st, 2011, 02:57

Installed here in both laptop and desktop.
No difference noticed.

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Lasnap · March 1st, 2011, 03:09

I had issues installing the service pack through windows update on a laptop. So I had to download it from microsft.com to get it to install. other then that there hasnt been any issues. I had no issues running it on my desktop.

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**Yeloazndevil** · March 1st, 2011, 03:17

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Originally Posted by Mad

Installed here in both laptop and desktop.
No difference noticed.

well of course you won't see any difference, it was just fixes that probably doesn't matter to you and its just all the updates windows7 had rolled into one.

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Phil · March 1st, 2011, 05:14

I hope one of these updates in SP1 fixes the intermittent wireless issues.

And my Velociraptor has 40gb free on my primary drive.....5 gb is pushing it. (The drive has to work harder when saturated) like that. it's best to keep an OS drive lightly loaded (NTFS partitions writes the MBR and vial system files closer to the center of the platter, the part least likely to be damaged in any consequence.

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Princess Garnet · March 1st, 2011, 05:18

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Originally Posted by KrossX

I have my reasons to keep the drive for its purpose, as you could've guessed. I had over 25GB free on it with all the needed programs installed and with no change ever since (restore and shadowcopies disabled). However, the winsxs directory has grown over 20GB since then, for whatever reason, and complicated things. Anyhow, the tradeoff of a new drive vs reinstalling is not that bad in my case.

Yeah, but... 5GB? 1TB drives have been cheap for a long time now. I know that's not necessarily reason to just have to get one itself, but if you're that bad on space, it is. Being down to 25GB alone means it's time (especially if the drive itself is large to begin with).

WinSXS is the Windows side by side directory. You can read up on it here.

The Secret Of Windows 7 / Vista Winsxs Folder.

Reinstalling will shave it down again, but it'll grow again in due time.

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well of course you won't see any difference, it was just fixes that probably doesn't matter to you and its just all the updates windows7 had rolled into one.

No, there is some other stuff too, but for most people, it isn't major or even anything that would matter. I'm holding off for now (not of fear or anything, namely because I keep myself updated anyway).

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February 27th, 2011, 20:18	#1
Mad AKA snkmad Join Date: Apr 2001 Location: Brazil, Fortaleza-Ceará Posts: 4,030	Windows 7 Service Pack 1 Well i remember the days when Service Packs for XP were released, it was really a fuss all around. But for 7, it's out already, and i hardly saw any news about it. Should i just install it? Any reported problems? Coz i use it in both my desktop and laptop. __________________ Main PC:Win 7 SP1 PRO X64 - Asus P5G41C-M LX - Intel Q6600@2.4Ghz - OCZ 2x 2GB DDR2 1000Mhz - Sapphire Vapor-X HD5770 1GB GDDR5 - 19" LCD SyncMaster T190 - Samsung SATA II HD322HJ 320GB HTPC:Acer Aspire AR1600 - Windows 7 PRO X86 - Atom 230@1.6Ghz - 3GB DDR2 800Mhz - Nvidia ION LE - SATA II WD 160GB + Seagate GoFlex Desk 2TB USB 3.0 Notebook:Dell Inspiron 14R N4110 - Windows 7 SP1 PRO X64 / Ubuntu 12.04 X64 - Intel Core i5 2410M@2.3Ghz - 8GB DDR3@1333Mhz - Intel HD 3000 - WDC SATA II 640GB + SSD Kingston V200 128GB +WD Scorpio Blue 320GB USB 3.0 CASE

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February 27th, 2011, 20:23	#2
runawayprisoner Level 9998 Join Date: Nov 2006 Location: Java Posts: 9,377	It's a consolidation of all of the patches thus far as far as I know. If you click Windows Update more than once a month for the past year or so, you're fine without the service pack.

February 27th, 2011, 22:48	#4
Yeloazndevil Touka <3 Join Date: Jul 2002 Posts: 11,868	Windows 7 SP1 does have a few changes, go here and dl the .doc file for notable changes. best fix was an update for devices losing hdmi audio connection after a reboot. __________________ Nintendo Network ID: Yeloazndevil

February 28th, 2011, 00:17	#5
runawayprisoner Level 9998 Join Date: Nov 2006 Location: Java Posts: 9,377	Ah, thanks, Yelo. That was the fix I've been waiting for. My HTPC build is finally complete.

February 28th, 2011, 19:33	#8
KrossX クロッスエクス Join Date: Mar 2006 Location: Argentina Posts: 3,647	I can't install the blasted thing. I only have 5GB free of the 9GB it wants, being the WinSxS directory what takes most of the space on that drive (25GB). =S __________________

February 28th, 2011, 20:45	#10
KrossX クロッスエクス Join Date: Mar 2006 Location: Argentina Posts: 3,647	Indeed. __________________

February 28th, 2011, 21:00	#11
Princess Garnet From Love and Limerence Join Date: Nov 2004 Location: Ohio Posts: 6,555	Seriously!? 5GB!? By that point, it's FAR been time for a new hard drive. I'm down to ~287GB free on my primary drive and I am starting to think of more and/or larger drives. I do have an empty one, so between then and now, I'll likely move my Steam install over to that or something, as it's taking up 261GB of what is taken. I'd never let it get nearly that low though. __________________ "The heart has it's reasons that reason knows nothing of."

February 28th, 2011, 21:05	#12
KrossX クロッスエクス Join Date: Mar 2006 Location: Argentina Posts: 3,647	There's 5GB free on my Windows install drive. I have a 1TB drive for Games/Stuff, that's at 80% usage. Then, I have another drive for Linux and whatnots. I'll just slipstream the SP1 with the install DVD, then do a reinstall with it. __________________

February 28th, 2011, 21:49	#13
Princess Garnet From Love and Limerence Join Date: Nov 2004 Location: Ohio Posts: 6,555	The point wasn't how much space you have total. The point was, with your free space on your primary drive that low, it's time to rethink the setup. I have two 640 drives for data (one is for data, the other is a duplicate of it for backup which I unhook except for when I'm backing up, which is roughly weekly). A third 640GB drive is my OS drive. I... just have it simple, so all my installed stuff is there too. I have 287GB free of 596GB. So, roughly/nearly half of my drive is used. Steam takes a good chunk (read as, most) of that used space. My fourth and last 640GB drive has no major role. It had Windows XP on it when I used it, but I also use it for FRAPS recordings and other miscellaneous things. It's mostly unused though. I'll probably toss Steam and it's games on there at some point. The point is, you're at 5GB free, so it's time to start rethinking your setup, be it the partition setup if the drive is partitioned, a new drive altogether, or whatever. If you have to slipstream a disc and reinstall Windows to install a service pack, you may as well get this set since you're reinstalling anyway. A full drive often has reduced performance as well. __________________ "The heart has it's reasons that reason knows nothing of."

February 28th, 2011, 22:05	#14
Lasnap Elven-Dragon Mage Join Date: Jul 2007 Location: USA Posts: 1,872	Dang how many steam games do you have PG? Perosnaly I only have around 25 gigs free on my 250 gig harddrive here on my main pc. Ive got a lot of stored on a external 500 gig tho and thats got 202 gigs free. I dont have that many games installed most I have is like 5 right now if that. and most of them are less then 4 gigs each except for Neverwinter nights 1 and 2 and those take up a lot of space once you start installing mods to them. The biggest harddirve I own is the 500 gig external the rest are only 250 or smaller. my htpc has an 160 gig hdd along iwth a 250 gig hdd that has xp and a another 80 gig that has linux. the main os is vista right now tho. __________________ Love Knows No Bounds!

March 1st, 2011, 02:57	#16
Mad AKA snkmad Join Date: Apr 2001 Location: Brazil, Fortaleza-Ceará Posts: 4,030	Installed here in both laptop and desktop. No difference noticed. __________________ Main PC:Win 7 SP1 PRO X64 - Asus P5G41C-M LX - Intel Q6600@2.4Ghz - OCZ 2x 2GB DDR2 1000Mhz - Sapphire Vapor-X HD5770 1GB GDDR5 - 19" LCD SyncMaster T190 - Samsung SATA II HD322HJ 320GB HTPC:Acer Aspire AR1600 - Windows 7 PRO X86 - Atom 230@1.6Ghz - 3GB DDR2 800Mhz - Nvidia ION LE - SATA II WD 160GB + Seagate GoFlex Desk 2TB USB 3.0 Notebook:Dell Inspiron 14R N4110 - Windows 7 SP1 PRO X64 / Ubuntu 12.04 X64 - Intel Core i5 2410M@2.3Ghz - 8GB DDR3@1333Mhz - Intel HD 3000 - WDC SATA II 640GB + SSD Kingston V200 128GB +WD Scorpio Blue 320GB USB 3.0 CASE

March 1st, 2011, 03:09	#17
Lasnap Elven-Dragon Mage Join Date: Jul 2007 Location: USA Posts: 1,872	I had issues installing the service pack through windows update on a laptop. So I had to download it from microsft.com to get it to install. other then that there hasnt been any issues. I had no issues running it on my desktop. __________________ Love Knows No Bounds!

March 1st, 2011, 05:14	#19
Phil 339.9 Join Date: Oct 2007 Location: USA Posts: 14,777	I hope one of these updates in SP1 fixes the intermittent wireless issues. And my Velociraptor has 40gb free on my primary drive.....5 gb is pushing it. (The drive has to work harder when saturated) like that. it's best to keep an OS drive lightly loaded (NTFS partitions writes the MBR and vial system files closer to the center of the platter, the part least likely to be damaged in any consequence. __________________ Vision is the art of seeing what is invisible to others