GeForce 2: cons outbalance pros??

mecharmor23 · June 2nd, 2001, 20:26

I don't have a Geforce yet and currently am using Voodoo3 2000.
Anyway I heard that Geforce has problems with Direct3D, I can't confirm this is true but if it is some programs and games I brought that is dependant on D3D only and no openGL that means those applications won't run. Games such as FFVII and FFVIII for PC and GeForce is mainly openGL......

One thing for sure is that it will play the games of today as it is the technology of today but I want to play D3D also without any problems. So its either D3D or OpenGL right?? I know GeForce3 has both but it's price is insane.

Your reply would be appreciated.
Mecharmor23

June 2nd, 2001, 21:38

GeForce-based cards can handle both D3D and OpenGL fine, but are known to be better with OpenGL..

June 3rd, 2001, 01:21

I use an Elsa Gladiac GEForce 2 GTS w/Pete's OGL GPU vers 1.50 and the results are astounding. Definately get a GEForce card if you can afford it. You won't be disappointed.
sincerely,
sx/amiga

Last edited by sxamiga; June 3rd, 2001 at 01:21..

SanDRocK · June 3rd, 2001, 04:14

ff7 won't run in hardware rendering with a gforce2 but ff8 will.....unless u can find a gforce2 patch for ff7 u'll have to play it in software rendering, but ff8 runs fine in D3D hardware rendering with gforce2's.
I own both ff7 and 8 pc versions

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Dan · June 8th, 2001, 14:33

EIDOS has a patch out at thier website so FFII will work with hardware excelleration just fine. I have it and love it!

SanDRocK · June 10th, 2001, 19:26

which 1? the riva tnt patch?:confused:

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Enigma1982 · June 10th, 2001, 19:29

Yep,Riva TNT pacth.........................

**Betamax** · June 10th, 2001, 22:25

Well in my case I got FF7PC running on a Geforce2 MX with hardware acceleration without having to patch the game under Win 2k sp2 .

The only annoying thing is that you need to install the compatibility update and set it to use the win 95 layer... oh and it always crashes when you enter the chocobo racing section damn!

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mecharmor23 · June 10th, 2001, 23:26

Well I have another question. I have the following games, WHICH would work WITHOUT patches and which must have patches?
These are popular ones so I assume some of you might have it and reply. I'm using win98. (didn't like win2k) And can you post the urls where you found the patches for Geforce 2MX video cards?

Duke Nukem 3d atomic
Duke Nukem 3d regular
(I know it's an old game but people make these amazing total conversions for it that make it like a whole new game.)
Diablo I & II
Starcraft
Warcraft battle net edition
Independence Day
Final Fantasy 7
Final Fantasy 8
Znes emulators and Final Fantasy games
Nesticle Nes emulator and FF I-III
Command and Conquer: (original I&2, red alert I&2)

I posted ALL these games that I currently have (in case you ask). Some are old but thats my personal buisness. One thing I'm not sure of is HOW WELL does it run D3D games?? FF7 is running pretty fast on my voodoo3 but will it slow down in opengl video card? I'm just thinking before getting Geforce 2 MX.
btw is 3dfx REALLY gone?? (they did well in the past though, did someone in the company make a BIG mistake??)
your reply would be appreciated.
thanks.

Last edited by mecharmor23; June 10th, 2001 at 23:33..

June 2nd, 2001, 20:26	#1
mecharmor23 Registered User Join Date: Apr 2001 Posts: 63	GeForce 2: cons outbalance pros?? I don't have a Geforce yet and currently am using Voodoo3 2000. Anyway I heard that Geforce has problems with Direct3D, I can't confirm this is true but if it is some programs and games I brought that is dependant on D3D only and no openGL that means those applications won't run. Games such as FFVII and FFVIII for PC and GeForce is mainly openGL...... One thing for sure is that it will play the games of today as it is the technology of today but I want to play D3D also without any problems. So its either D3D or OpenGL right?? I know GeForce3 has both but it's price is insane. Your reply would be appreciated. Mecharmor23

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June 2nd, 2001, 21:38	#2
CDBuRnOuT Guest Posts: n/a	GeForce-based cards can handle both D3D and OpenGL fine, but are known to be better with OpenGL..

June 3rd, 2001, 01:21	#3
sxamiga Guest Posts: n/a	I use an Elsa Gladiac GEForce 2 GTS w/Pete's OGL GPU vers 1.50 and the results are astounding. Definately get a GEForce card if you can afford it. You won't be disappointed. sincerely, sx/amiga Last edited by sxamiga; June 3rd, 2001 at 01:21..

June 3rd, 2001, 04:14	#4
SanDRocK StizowneD Join Date: Apr 2001 Location: Edmonton, Alberta Posts: 298	ff7 won't run in hardware rendering with a gforce2 but ff8 will.....unless u can find a gforce2 patch for ff7 u'll have to play it in software rendering, but ff8 runs fine in D3D hardware rendering with gforce2's. I own both ff7 and 8 pc versions __________________ Gaming Rig OS= Vista Ultimate 64Bit CPU = Pent D extreme 3.4GHz w/ HT Mobo = Dell mobo based on intel 955X chipset Ram = 2Gigs 667MHz DDR2 SDRam HDD = 320Gig Raid0 Array (2x 160Gig SATA2 (16meg cache each) 10000RPM GFX = ATI Radeon X850 XT Platinum (512Meg DDR3 model) 21" Dell Widescreen LCD Audio = SBlaster X-Fi Fatal1ty on 5.1 Digi suroundsound Faster than a Burning Bud, More Powerfull than a hit from a bong, Able to eat huge amounts of snacks, Look through the smoke.. Its a skunk...... Its a grassfire...... Its.... Its.... GanjaMAN!!! Man of WEED (TM)

June 8th, 2001, 14:33	#5
Dan Jedi Knight Join Date: May 2001 Location: Portland, Oregon Posts: 230	EIDOS has a patch out at thier website so FFII will work with hardware excelleration just fine. I have it and love it!

June 10th, 2001, 19:26	#6
SanDRocK StizowneD Join Date: Apr 2001 Location: Edmonton, Alberta Posts: 298	which 1? the riva tnt patch?:confused: __________________ Gaming Rig OS= Vista Ultimate 64Bit CPU = Pent D extreme 3.4GHz w/ HT Mobo = Dell mobo based on intel 955X chipset Ram = 2Gigs 667MHz DDR2 SDRam HDD = 320Gig Raid0 Array (2x 160Gig SATA2 (16meg cache each) 10000RPM GFX = ATI Radeon X850 XT Platinum (512Meg DDR3 model) 21" Dell Widescreen LCD Audio = SBlaster X-Fi Fatal1ty on 5.1 Digi suroundsound Faster than a Burning Bud, More Powerfull than a hit from a bong, Able to eat huge amounts of snacks, Look through the smoke.. Its a skunk...... Its a grassfire...... Its.... Its.... GanjaMAN!!! Man of WEED (TM)

June 10th, 2001, 19:29	#7
Enigma1982 Do not Disturb Join Date: Jun 2001 Location: Bangkok,Thailand Posts: 1,808	Yep,Riva TNT pacth.........................

June 10th, 2001, 22:25	#8
Betamax Resident Movie Critic Join Date: Apr 2001 Location: Belfast, Northern Ireland Posts: 9,506	Well in my case I got FF7PC running on a Geforce2 MX with hardware acceleration without having to patch the game under Win 2k sp2 . The only annoying thing is that you need to install the compatibility update and set it to use the win 95 layer... oh and it always crashes when you enter the chocobo racing section damn! __________________ Superior marketing of an inferior product will always win over inferior marketing of a superior product. Last edited by Betamax; June 10th, 2001 at 22:28..

June 10th, 2001, 23:26	#9
mecharmor23 Registered User Join Date: Apr 2001 Posts: 63	Well I have another question. I have the following games, WHICH would work WITHOUT patches and which must have patches? These are popular ones so I assume some of you might have it and reply. I'm using win98. (didn't like win2k) And can you post the urls where you found the patches for Geforce 2MX video cards? Duke Nukem 3d atomic Duke Nukem 3d regular (I know it's an old game but people make these amazing total conversions for it that make it like a whole new game.) Diablo I & II Starcraft Warcraft battle net edition Independence Day Final Fantasy 7 Final Fantasy 8 Znes emulators and Final Fantasy games Nesticle Nes emulator and FF I-III Command and Conquer: (original I&2, red alert I&2) I posted ALL these games that I currently have (in case you ask). Some are old but thats my personal buisness. One thing I'm not sure of is HOW WELL does it run D3D games?? FF7 is running pretty fast on my voodoo3 but will it slow down in opengl video card? I'm just thinking before getting Geforce 2 MX. btw is 3dfx REALLY gone?? (they did well in the past though, did someone in the company make a BIG mistake??) your reply would be appreciated. thanks. Last edited by mecharmor23; June 10th, 2001 at 23:33..